Libs unleash ecogeddon on the Klamath

[jackflash]

This is why, just like with the Civil War and WWII, we must show them the error of their ways by defeating them completely. It will never end their hatred of humanity, will just make a temporary peace

Hatred of humanity has been with humanity since it's conception. I agree with U about the 'Temporary Peace".

 

[beautress]

OK...The dams had been there for over 100 years, yet the salmon still weren't extinct.

This shit is what you get when the "environmentalists" are urban dwelling do-gooders, who have never set foot in the actual environment without a tour guide.

Not only that, but eating salmon is almost better than taking daily vitamins. It is likely the best meat for heart health and sends fatigue far away. The nutritionists at Oregon State University could be quite successful in supporting an increased proliferation of the fish. OSU lit my fire when I took a Nutrition class therein the early 80s. I love those people.

 

[ReinyDays]

Not only that, but eating salmon is almost better than taking daily vitamins. It is likely the best meat for heart health and sends fatigue far away. The nutritionists at Oregon State University could be quite successful in supporting an increased proliferation of the fish. OSU lit my fire when I took a Nutrition class therein the early 80s. I love those people.

Klamath Salmon are protected under the Endangered Species Act ... daily vitamins are safer than poaching salmon, usually ...

I was an Atmospheric Science major at OSU in the early 80's ... did you hang out around the Agriculture Building by any chance? ...

 

[beautress]

Klamath Salmon are protected under the Endangered Species Act ... daily vitamins are safer than poaching salmon, usually ...

I was an Atmospheric Science major at OSU in the early 80's ... did you hang out around the Agriculture Building by any chance? ...

Trying to recall science classes and where I took them overlaps with 4 or 5 states. I only went there in the 1982/1983 and minored in human health such as a comprehensive nutrition course and human anatomy for the athletics necessary for a major course in teaching athletics in the amazingly wonderful people training athletic training. For my hard work, I got placed by my instructors as top scholar in the athletics. One of my teachers introduced me as "the only student in our history as never making a "B" in any class, and since all I ever did for 2 years was take a small tape recorder to all classes so I would know the answers to all our tests without having to cheat. It worked. I aced all my tests because I listened to my tapes on the long trips to and from Oregon State, and again an hour before bedtime when my young kids were already asleep.

If you happened to attend the Physical education banquet ib1992, I was the pint sized gal with mousy brown hair and a totally red face due to all that teasing some of which stemmed from my lapping some of the best runners on campus who were twice as tall as me. The love of sports and good health took a lot of science and learning international folk dances, detailed rules of a ton of sports where rules for man sports and those for women are frequently very different. And international music for dance are quite enigmatic, at least to this music lover.

 

[beautress]

We see video of them every year, walking up to buffalo in Yellowstone as though they're dairy cows...FAFO.

I'm starting to believe that an EMP or general grid crash would be far more beneficial to the nation than a bad thing.

As a 35- year resident in Wyoming, my family frequently visited the great Yellowstone Park. One of the last times we went there, for the first time, we saw a Yellowstone Park sign that people must not approach the Buffalo because they can kill people. It's not clear to my remembrance of petting a Buffalo would result in an escort of your automobile to the nearest Park exit and a warning not to come back. Apparently, the rangers do not like to find and contact the next of kin about the mauling death of a loved one whether by bison or moose.

 

[beautress]

Klamath Salmon are protected under the Endangered Species Act ... daily vitamins are safer than poaching salmon, usually ...

I was an Atmospheric Science major at OSU in the early 80's ... did you hang out around the Agriculture Building by any chance?

Oh? I always buy canned salmon for a meat entree six or seven times per year. Their low calorie count is cherished by dieters who like a good protein entree that doesn't create a greater omentum of ugly fat.

 

[ReinyDays]

Oh? I always buy canned salmon for a meat entree six or seven times per year. Their low calorie count is cherished by dieters who like a good protein entree that doesn't create a greater omentum of ugly fat.

I kinda got sick of salmon when the neighbor kid was limiting everyday ... bleh ...

 

[beautress]

I kinda got sick of salmon when the neighbor kid was limiting everyday ... bleh ...

Gee, that's too bad. My mom made delicious fried salmon patties that were fit for a king. I never got the recipe, but I bet it's in my favorite cookbook ( JOY of Cooking). Mom took homemaking and cooking when she was in High school, just before WWII started, and I've seen recipes she made that I saved in JOY. Too bad you never tasted those salmon patties. They were excellent in every way.

 

[ReinyDays]

Gee, that's too bad. My mom made delicious fried salmon patties that were fit for a king. I never got the recipe, but I bet it's in my favorite cookbook ( JOY of Cooking). Mom took homemaking and cooking when she was in High school, just before WWII started, and I've seen recipes she made that I saved in JOY. Too bad you never tasted those salmon patties. They were excellent in every way.

Gee ... I don't know ... we have a two fish daily limit ... about 20 lbs of fillets ... 40 salmonoid fish in total per year I believe ... usually just Springers though ... not me, I never learned to drift fish ...

It's well documented that Lewis and Clark's Coups of Discovery traded salmon with the natives for their dogs on the return journey ... they were that sick of eating salmon ... that was then, today we're only getting winter-run steelhead along the coastal rivers ...

 

[jackflash]

OK...The dams had been there for over 100 years, yet the salmon still weren't extinct.

This shit is what you get when the "environmentalists" are urban dwelling do-gooders, who have never set foot in the actual environment without a tour guide.

There's a BIG diff being raised on a farm/ranch than being raised in downtown Frisco.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

They purposefully made a disaster and are leaving taxpayers and the locals to clean up their mess’

By Katy Grimes, February 19, 2024 2:30 am Klamath Dam Removal: ‘It’s an Environmental Disaster’ – California Globe
We have to kill the salmon to save them ...
The we know science dodge is wearing thin don't ya think. We have more oil than ever and the planet isn't burning up. Perhaps time for real science.

Complete bullshit!

Here's the success story you don't want told:

Salmon swim freely in the Klamath River as massive dam removal project nears completion

The demolition near the California-Oregon border is part of a national movement to let rivers return to their natural flow to restore ecosystems for fish and other wildlife.

www.kvpr.org

Workers breached the final dams on a key section of the Klamath River on Wednesday, clearing the way for salmon to swim freely through a major watershed near the California-Oregon border for the first time in more than a century as the largest dam removal project in U.S. history nears completion.

Crews used excavators to remove rock dams that have been diverting water upstream of two dams, Iron Gate and Copco No. 1, both of which were already almost completely removed. With each scoop, more and more river water was able to flow through the historic channel. The work has given salmon a passageway to key swaths of habitat just in time for the fall Chinook, or king salmon, spawning season.

Standing at Iron Gate Wednesday morning, Amy Bowers Cordalis, a Yurok tribal member and attorney for the tribe, cried as she watched water spill over the former dam and slowly flow back into the river.

Bowers Cordalis has fought for the removal of the Klamath dams since 2002, when she saw some of the tens of thousands of salmon die in the river from a bacterial outbreak caused by low water and warm temperatures. She said watching the river return to its natural channel felt like she was witnessing its rebirth.

“It was surreal. It was so emotional. I felt so hopeful and so satisfied that we have restored this river," she said. "And looking at it you could almost hear the river crying, ‘I am free, I am free.’”

The demolition comes about a month before removal of four towering dams on the Klamath was set to be completed as part of a national movement to let rivers return to their natural flow and to restore ecosystems for fish and other wildlife.

As of February, more than 2,000 dams had been removed in the U.S., the majority in the last 25 years, according to the advocacy group American Rivers. Among them were dams on Washington state’s Elwha River, which flows out of Olympic National Park into the Strait of Juan de Fuca, and Condit Dam on the White Salmon River, a tributary of the Columbia.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Not only that, but eating salmon is almost better than taking daily vitamins. It is likely the best meat for heart health and sends fatigue far away. The nutritionists at Oregon State University could be quite successful in supporting an increased proliferation of the fish. OSU lit my fire when I took a Nutrition class therein the early 80s. I love those people.

This will improve the salmon runs and availability..not diminish them.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Complete bullshit!

Here's the success story you don't want told:

Salmon swim freely in the Klamath River as massive dam removal project nears completion

The demolition near the California-Oregon border is part of a national movement to let rivers return to their natural flow to restore ecosystems for fish and other wildlife.

www.kvpr.org

Workers breached the final dams on a key section of the Klamath River on Wednesday, clearing the way for salmon to swim freely through a major watershed near the California-Oregon border for the first time in more than a century as the largest dam removal project in U.S. history nears completion.

Crews used excavators to remove rock dams that have been diverting water upstream of two dams, Iron Gate and Copco No. 1, both of which were already almost completely removed. With each scoop, more and more river water was able to flow through the historic channel. The work has given salmon a passageway to key swaths of habitat just in time for the fall Chinook, or king salmon, spawning season.

Standing at Iron Gate Wednesday morning, Amy Bowers Cordalis, a Yurok tribal member and attorney for the tribe, cried as she watched water spill over the former dam and slowly flow back into the river.

Bowers Cordalis has fought for the removal of the Klamath dams since 2002, when she saw some of the tens of thousands of salmon die in the river from a bacterial outbreak caused by low water and warm temperatures. She said watching the river return to its natural channel felt like she was witnessing its rebirth.

“It was surreal. It was so emotional. I felt so hopeful and so satisfied that we have restored this river," she said. "And looking at it you could almost hear the river crying, ‘I am free, I am free.’”

The demolition comes about a month before removal of four towering dams on the Klamath was set to be completed as part of a national movement to let rivers return to their natural flow and to restore ecosystems for fish and other wildlife.

As of February, more than 2,000 dams had been removed in the U.S., the majority in the last 25 years, according to the advocacy group American Rivers. Among them were dams on Washington state’s Elwha River, which flows out of Olympic National Park into the Strait of Juan de Fuca, and Condit Dam on the White Salmon River, a tributary of the Columbia.

Happy talk to cover their ass. Press never tells the truth these days.

 

[Crick]

Happy talk to cover their ass. Press never tells the truth these days.

When did that start?

 

[ReinyDays]

When did that start?

December 15, 1791 ... but only in the United States ... you can still go to prison in Canada for lying in print ...

 

[Woodznutz]

Happy talk to cover their ass. Press never tells the truth these days.

The media isn't in the 'truth business'.

 

[beautress]

This will improve the salmon runs and availability..not diminish them.

If my memory serves me right, during the 5 years I lived in the beautiful State of Oregon, the fish hatcheries more than replenish the salmon population, and their spirit will live on to balance the fish markets with them as well assure that for generations there will be an abundance of them. As long as Oregon State U. Is open, the Salmon will keep on keeping on. I was a student there back when, and their professors were great supporters of both current marketing and in nature, replenishing their species of healthy fish for the future. I confess, however that was a long time ago, and I live half a continent away from ,Corvallis, home of the OSU Beavers.

 

[ReinyDays]

If my memory serves me right, during the 5 years I lived in the beautiful State of Oregon, the fish hatcheries more than replenish the salmon population, and their spirit will live on to balance the fish markets with them as well assure that for generations there will be an abundance of them. As long as Oregon State U. Is open, the Salmon will keep on keeping on. I was a student there back when, and their professors were great supporters of both current marketing and in nature, replenishing their species of healthy fish for the future. I confess, however that was a long time ago, and I live half a continent away from ,Corvallis, home of the OSU Beavers.

Sorry to tell you, but those rosy predictions have failed to materialize ...

This started with a drought in the Klamath River drainage ... the Federal Government ordered all irrigation canals shut down so what little water was available could run downstream and keep the salmon alive ... thus bankrupting the farming communities in this drainage ... farmers simply cut the locks off and used the water anyway ... river ran dry and killed all the salmon ... fish hatcheries don't work when bone dry ...

Remediation means removing obstacles for what few remaining Klamath-run salmon there is ... and it's not just the Klamath River ... all the dams are being looked at, a lot of old hydropower stations that are too expensive to run ... not with Bonneville dumping cheapest-in-the-nation juice on the grid ... if they're useless, then tear them out ... it's the right thing to do ...

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Hatchery salmon are regulated differently, tags and fees and licenses and rules ... a native run fish has to be released unharmed ... we clip the adipose fin at the hatcheries so the average fisherman knows the difference in the stream ...

Actual fishermen claim hatchery fish don't taste very good ... why the neighbor kids give them away ... there's really nothing in my entire experience to indicate there's any fish of any kind in the State of Oregon ... but that's just me ...

 

[beautress]

Sorry to tell you, but those rosy predictions have failed to materialize ...

This started with a drought in the Klamath River drainage ... the Federal Government ordered all irrigation canals shut down so what little water was available could run downstream and keep the salmon alive ... thus bankrupting the farming communities in this drainage ... farmers simply cut the locks off and used the water anyway ... river ran dry and killed all the salmon ... fish hatcheries don't work when bone dry ...

Remediation means removing obstacles for what few remaining Klamath-run salmon there is ... and it's not just the Klamath River ... all the dams are being looked at, a lot of old hydropower stations that are too expensive to run ... not with Bonneville dumping cheapest-in-the-nation juice on the grid ... if they're useless, then tear them out ... it's the right thing to do ...

=====

Hatchery salmon are regulated differently, tags and fees and licenses and rules ... a native run fish has to be released unharmed ... we clip the adipose fin at the hatcheries so the average fisherman knows the difference in the stream ...

Actual fishermen claim hatchery fish don't taste very good ... why the neighbor kids give them away ... there's really nothing in my entire experience to indicate there's any fish of any kind in the State of Oregon ... but that's just me ...

Oh. I thought they put hatchery fish with their cousins at a natural area, early in their life, but what do I know!?!

 

[ReinyDays]

Oh. I thought they put hatchery fish with their cousins at a natural area, early in their life, but what do I know!?!

Hatcheries are at the bottoms of dams ... fish born there return after a few years at sea and spawn, in the hatchery ... native fish return to the natural gravel beds below the dam somewhere, where they were spawned, to spawn again ... they some how smell their way home ... OSU is making sure the genes get distributed properly ...

Salmon are extinct above the dam ... unless there's a fish ladder or something ... Grand Coulee Dam notoriously doesn't have a ladder, no sea-run salmon in the upper reaches of the Columbia River ... just the landlocked strains ... and steelhead ...

A co-worker of mine stocked his creek with Chinook fry ... four years later he had ankle deep water with a mess of 30 lbs Springers ... too funny ...