Libs call for the head of a JHU professor who will not deny reality

YOu think they want him to keep his position? did you read for the comments praying for his death?
 
Yeah, I'm sure this isn't a liberal...


University of St. Thomas
I'm thinking about believing in God again so I can pray to her for a special lightning bolt with McHugh's name on it. He is living proof of the danger of over-marinading your brain in religion. His little group of charlatans are dangerous and evil.
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7 · Mar 20, 2016 1:13pm
 
Also, they bring up "stigma and discrimination" as being the cause of transgender suicides, not their mental illness. I'm curious, did blacks under Jim Crow have high suicide rates? Did Jews under nazi german rule have high suicide rates? These are liberal morons who deny biology and expect others to play along with the delusions. They call him a member of a "hate group" because he won't be PC and deny reality.
 
Yeah, I'm sure this isn't a liberal...


University of St. Thomas
I'm thinking about believing in God again so I can pray to her for a special lightning bolt with McHugh's name on it. He is living proof of the danger of over-marinading your brain in religion. His little group of charlatans are dangerous and evil.
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7 · Mar 20, 2016 1:13pm

So your argument is that any comment can be used to demonstrate 'liberals'.

Is the same true of conservatives? Because I've got some real beauties of quotes waiting for you if your answer is yes.
 
Yeah, I'm sure this isn't a liberal...


University of St. Thomas
I'm thinking about believing in God again so I can pray to her for a special lightning bolt with McHugh's name on it. He is living proof of the danger of over-marinading your brain in religion. His little group of charlatans are dangerous and evil.
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7 · Mar 20, 2016 1:13pm
The part of praying for a lightning bolt was ridiculous. The rest seems pretty agreeable.
 
Listen to the way this article is written about the prestigious Johns Hopkins outfit from the OP link:

Once again, Paul McHugh has used the ever more tarnished name of Johns Hopkins to distort science and spread transphobic misinformation. This time, it comes via a position statement from the American College of Pediatricians (ACP) a tiny offshoot of a real professional organization, the American Academy of Pediatrics....This would be nothing but an ineffectual fringe organization, if not for McHugh and the fact that the administration at John’s Hopkins refuses to disavow him and his positions...I’m also already hearing from parents of transgender children that relatives and people hostile to them in the community are using this position statement to threaten to report them to child protective services and take their children away....What makes this worse is that every single talking point in this position statement is a distortion or outright falsehood

So we have some hack author on Huffpo calling the most respected institution in the country, if not the world, on these types of surgeries (they used to do them then quit for reasons of violating the hippocratic oath: in short, they found statistically that the hacked, amputated and mutilated freaks they helped create were no happier after their elected-amputation, nor any more "the other gender" than before they went under the knife) "non-professional"..

Hows that for irony? The loonies are calling the real actual doctors using real actual data and real actual science "crazy, fringe, insane". But it's "totally normal" to coerce a child into eventually amputating healthy body organs to leave themselves no more the other gender than a dog could become a donkey, incontinent, sexually-numb...on and on. Yes, all adults so engaged coercing children belong in jail. Including "doctors" who agree to drug or amputate healthy functioning organs to try (fruitlessly) to complete a mental delusion for a patient..,
 
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Listen to the way this article is written about the prestigious Johns Hopkins outfit from the OP link:

Once again, Paul McHugh has used the ever more tarnished name of Johns Hopkins to distort science and spread transphobic misinformation. This time, it comes via a position statement from the American College of Pediatricians (ACP) a tiny offshoot of a real professional organization, the American Academy of Pediatrics....This would be nothing but an ineffectual fringe organization, if not for McHugh and the fact that the administration at John’s Hopkins refuses to disavow him and his positions...I’m also already hearing from parents of transgender children that relatives and people hostile to them in the community are using this position statement to threaten to report them to child protective services and take their children away....What makes this worse is that every single talking point in this position statement is a distortion or outright falsehood

So we have some hack author on Huffpo calling the most respected institution in the country, if not the world, on these types of surgeries (they used to do them then quit for reasons of violating the hippocratic oath: in short, they found statistically that the hacked, amputated and mutilated freaks they helped create were no happier after their elected-amputation, nor any more "the other gender" than before they went under the knife) "non-professional"..

Save of course that their suicide rates drop to about 1/10th their pre-transition levels. So....no happier, but less likely to commit suicide by an order of magnitude?

Hows that for irony? The loonies are calling the real actual doctors using real actual data and real actual science "crazy, fringe, insane". But it's "totally normal" to coerce a child into eventually amputating healthy body organs to leave themselves no more the other gender than a dog could become a donkey, incontinent, sexually-numb...on and on. Yes, all adults so engaged coercing children belong in jail. Including "doctors" who agree to drug or amputate bodies,

Then why the 'actual doctor' being denounced as 'unethical' by the very people who wrote the studies he cites?

Dr. Celia Dhejne has already denounced McHugh’s repeated misuse of her 2011 study as “unethical.” Yet he does it again claiming that transgender people commit suicide at staggering rates even if they live in tolerant societies. This to imply that transgender people are intrinsically mentally ill unless they somehow are “cured” of the delusion, and that they will still commit suicide even if the stigma of being transgender is lifted.

The problem is, Dhejne’s study says the EXACT OPPOSITE of what Dr. McHugh claims. It states that differences in mortality between the general population and transgender people, “did not reach statistical significance for the period 1989-2003.” In other words, there was no statistical difference in the suicide rate for transgender people who transitioned after 1989 and the general population.

Why would I ignore the author of the study in question on his OWN findings?

Why would any rational person?
 
Save of course that their suicide rates drop to about 1/10th their pre-transition levels.

FALSE (read # 7 below) Using statistical data (not internet troll hearsay), researches found the suicide rates to be 20 TIMES HIGHER after "transition"..

From the official statement: Gender Ideology Harms Children

Gender Ideology Harms Children

March 21, 2016 – a temporary statement with references. A full statement will be published in summer 2016.

The American College of Pediatricians urges educators and legislators to reject all policies that condition children to accept as normal a life of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex. Facts – not ideology – determine reality.

1. Human sexuality is an objective biological binary trait: “XY” and “XX” are genetic markers of health – not genetic markers of a disorder. The norm for human design is to be conceived either male or female. Human sexuality is binary by design with the obvious purpose being the reproduction and flourishing of our species. This principle is self-evident. The exceedingly rare disorders of sex development (DSDs), including but not limited to testicular feminization and congenital adrenal hyperplasia, are all medically identifiable deviations from the sexual binary norm, and are rightly recognized as disorders of human design. Individuals with DSDs do not constitute a third sex.1

2. No one is born with a gender. Everyone is born with a biological sex. Gender (an awareness and sense of oneself as male or female) is a sociological and psychological concept; not an objective biological one. No one is born with an awareness of themselves as male or female; this awareness develops over time and, like all developmental processes, may be derailed by a child’s subjective perceptions, relationships, and adverse experiences from infancy forward. People who identify as “feeling like the opposite sex” or “somewhere in between” do not comprise a third sex. They remain biological men or biological women.2,3,4

3. A person’s belief that he or she is something they are not is, at best, a sign of confused thinking. When an otherwise healthy biological boy believes he is a girl, or an otherwise healthy biological girl believes she is a boy, an objective psychological problem exists that lies in the mind not the body, and it should be treated as such. These children suffer from gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria (GD), formerly listed as Gender Identity Disorder (GID), is a recognized mental disorder in the most recent edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association (DSM-V).5 The psychodynamic and social learning theories of GD/GID have never been disproved.2,4,5

4. Puberty is not a disease and puberty-blocking hormones can be dangerous. Reversible or not, puberty- blocking hormones induce a state of disease – the absence of puberty – and inhibit growth and fertility in a previously biologically healthy child.6

5. According to the DSM-V, as many as 98% of gender confused boys and 88% of gender confused girls eventually accept their biological sex after naturally passing through puberty.5

6. Children who use puberty blockers to impersonate the opposite sex will require cross-sex hormones in late adolescence. Cross-sex hormones (testosterone and estrogen) are associated with dangerous health risks including but not limited to high blood pressure, blood clots, stroke and cancer.7,8,9,10

7. Rates of suicide are twenty times greater among adults who use cross-sex hormones and undergo sex reassignment surgery, even in Sweden which is among the most LGBQT – affirming countries.11 What compassionate and reasonable person would condemn young children to this fate knowing that after puberty as many as 88% of girls and 98% of boys will eventually accept reality and achieve a state of mental and physical health?

8. Conditioning children into believing a lifetime of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex is normal and healthful is child abuse. Endorsing gender discordance as normal via public education and legal policies will confuse children and parents, leading more children to present to “gender clinics” where they will be given puberty-blocking drugs. This, in turn, virtually ensures that they will “choose” a lifetime of carcinogenic and otherwise toxic cross-sex hormones, and likely consider unnecessary surgical mutilation of their healthy body parts as young adults.

Michelle A. Cretella, M.D.
President of the American College of Pediatricians

Quentin Van Meter, M.D.
Vice President of the American College of Pediatricians
Pediatric Endocrinologist

Paul McHugh, M.D.
University Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins Medical School and the former psychiatrist in chief at Johns Hopkins Hospital

References:

1. Consortium on the Management of Disorders of Sex Development, “Clinical Guidelines for the Management of Disorders of Sex Development in Childhood.” Intersex Society of North America, March 25, 2006. Accessed 3/20/16 from http://www.dsdguidelines.org/files/clinical.pdf.

2. Zucker, Kenneth J. and Bradley Susan J. “Gender Identity and Psychosexual Disorders.” FOCUS: The Journal of Lifelong Learning in Psychiatry. Vol. III, No. 4, Fall 2005 (598-617).

3. Whitehead, Neil W. “Is Transsexuality biologically determined?” Triple Helix (UK), Autumn 2000, p6-8. accessed 3/20/16 from http://www.mygenes.co.nz/transsexuality.htm; see also Whitehead, Neil W. “Twin Studies of Transsexuals [Reveals Discordance]” accessed 3/20/16 from Twin Studies of Transexuality | transsexuals | transexuality genetic?.

4. Jeffreys, Sheila. Gender Hurts: A Feminist Analysis of the Politics of Transgenderism. Routledge, New York, 2014 (pp.1-35).

5. American Psychiatric Association: Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition, Arlington, VA, American Psychiatric Association, 2013 (451-459). See page 455 re: rates of persistence of gender dysphoria.

6. Hembree, WC, et al. Endocrine treatment of transsexual persons: an Endocrine Society clinical practice guideline. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2009;94:3132-3154.

7. Olson-Kennedy, J and Forcier, M. “Overview of the management of gender nonconformity in children and adolescents.” UpToDate November 4, 2015. Accessed 3.20.16 from www.uptodate.com.

8. Moore, E., Wisniewski, & Dobs, A. “Endocrine treatment of transsexual people: A review of treatment regimens, outcomes, and adverse effects.” The Journal of Endocrinology & Metabolism, 2003; 88(9), pp3467-3473.

9. FDA Drug Safety Communication issued for Testosterone products accessed 3.20.16: Testosterone Information.

10. World Health Organization Classification of Estrogen as a Class I Carcinogen: http://www.who.int/reproductivehealth/topics/ageing/cocs_hrt_statement.pdf.

11. Dhejne, C, et.al. “Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden.” PLoS ONE, 2011; 6(2). Affiliation: Department of Clinical Neuroscience, Division of Psychiatry, Karolinska Institutet, Stockholm, Sweden. Accessed 3.20.16 from Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden.
 
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From the official statement: Gender Ideology Harms Children

Gender Ideology Harms Children

March 21, 2016 – a temporary statement with references. A full statement will be published in summer 2016.

The American College of Pediatricians urges educators and legislators to reject all policies that condition children to accept as normal a life of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex. Facts – not ideology – determine reality.

With the 'American College of Pediatricians' having between 60 and 200 members. All hard right wing social conservatives.

And is contradicted by the American Academy of Pediatrics.....with 62,000 members from across the political spectrum.
 

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