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The TP is in no way the LIbertarian party.
The TP are virtually all ex Bush supporters.
War Mongerers are in no way libertarians.
The TP is in no way the LIbertarian party.
The TP are virtually all ex Bush supporters.
War Mongerers are in no way libertarians.
The TP is in no way the LIbertarian party.
The TP are virtually all ex Bush supporters.
War Mongerers are in no way libertarians.
Okay, so which party (or movement) is more aligned with the Republcian Party?
The TP is in no way the LIbertarian party.
The TP are virtually all ex Bush supporters.
War Mongerers are in no way libertarians.
Okay, so which party (or movement) is more aligned with the Republcian Party?
The TP is in no way the LIbertarian party.
The TP are virtually all ex Bush supporters.
War Mongerers are in no way libertarians.
Okay, so which party (or movement) is more aligned with the Republcian Party?
One is an official political party, and the other is still just a movement.
bwhahahaahhahahah you guys still pandering this bullshit?
shut the fuck up, the freshmen in the house belong mostly to the TEA PARTY. People RUN on TEA PARTY policies. Sure you have no DNC chairman or RNC chairman atm, but get real.
One is an official political party, and the other is still just a movement.
One is an official political party, and the other is still just a movement.
yeah a bowell movement.
Okay, so which party (or movement) is more aligned with the Republcian Party?
I would say TPM when considering some of the social issues....but also keeping in mind that there is a split in that regard, with some leaning more towards the Paul mentality than Palin.
oh god no, you are just wrong, wrong on everything. This we dont believe in social issue crap is...well crap. That was a five minute scam to try to fool people into the TP was something new and fresh.
The TP is in no way the LIbertarian party.
The TP are virtually all ex Bush supporters.
War Mongerers are in no way libertarians.
Okay, so which party (or movement) is more aligned with the Republcian Party?
I would say TPM when considering some of the social issues....but also keeping in mind that there is a split in that regard, with some leaning more towards the Paul mentality than Palin.
Okay, so which party (or movement) is more aligned with the Republcian Party?
I would say TPM when considering some of the social issues....but also keeping in mind that there is a split in that regard, with some leaning more towards the Paul mentality than Palin.
I found Palin was getting annoying so I kind of tuned her out for a while. A friend of mine actually told me that I needed to listen to her again. In a lot of ways she's starting to say things that I agree with more and more. I don't agree with the social issues and things but anyone who talks about small government gets support when they do from me. Of course whether she means it or not, I don't know.
On a side note, if she is really a small government kind of politician then running with McCain was the biggest mistake she could have made because the platform she represented is the example for why I am no longer a republican.
(This is not an endorsement, this is me talking about Palin and the fact that she should have turned down the opportunity to run for VP with McCain.)
Mike
I would say TPM when considering some of the social issues....but also keeping in mind that there is a split in that regard, with some leaning more towards the Paul mentality than Palin.
I found Palin was getting annoying so I kind of tuned her out for a while. A friend of mine actually told me that I needed to listen to her again. In a lot of ways she's starting to say things that I agree with more and more. I don't agree with the social issues and things but anyone who talks about small government gets support when they do from me. Of course whether she means it or not, I don't know.
On a side note, if she is really a small government kind of politician then running with McCain was the biggest mistake she could have made because the platform she represented is the example for why I am no longer a republican.
(This is not an endorsement, this is me talking about Palin and the fact that she should have turned down the opportunity to run for VP with McCain.)
Mike
Mike, you're such a rebel.
"Small government", means what?
It seems some see small government as isolationist; some as a repudication of the 'nanny state' and others as an effort to argue anew the issues of State's Rights vis a vis The Union., circa 1830.
Here's the thing. The TP isn't unified on anything. I actually like that. I'm not a "tea party". I don't know if I'm a Tea Partier or not. I've been to rallies in various places and there are some places I agree with and other places that I don't agree with things on. The TP has gotten a lot of publicity but I think it is more representative of frustrations across the country.Okay, so which party (or movement) is more aligned with the Republcian Party?
I would say TPM when considering some of the social issues....but also keeping in mind that there is a split in that regard, with some leaning more towards the Paul mentality than Palin.
oh god no, you are just wrong, wrong on everything. This we dont believe in social issue crap is...well crap. That was a five minute scam to try to fool people into the TP was something new and fresh.
"Small government", means what?
"Small government", means what?
You’ll never get a clear, rational answer to that, I’ve been trying for 40 years, with regard to libertarians. The TPM isn’t any better.
What you may get is some vague nonsense about what the Framers ‘wanted,’ predicated on a blend of the Federalist Papers and a contrived fantasy of the Founders’ ‘original intent.’
You’ll also get no response when you ask a TPM/libertarian to find ‘small government’ in the Constitution, or case law in support. Or when you ask them to define the parameters of ‘small government’ in an economic context. They seem to have this naïve, inane idea that the government of the 18th Century can somehow be recreated in the 21st, but give no specifics as to how such a government might be able to function in conjunction with a modern, industrialized society.
‘Individual liberty’ means the right of the individual businessman to sell shoddy products or services, pollute the environment, or cheat his customers free from government regulation; it has little to do with the rights guaranteed citizens in the Constitution, much less enforcing those rights.
And of course you’ll hear about ‘states’ rights,’ a myth put to rest over 50 years ago by the Court. The TPM/libertarians will bemoan the alleged abuses of the Federal government yet you’ll hear nothing about the abuses of state and local governments. One can only infer the TPM/libertarians never heard of the 14th Amendment, and believe the states are authorized to violate their citizens’ rights with impunity.