Liberals: Would you volunteer for enforcing a mass gun confiscation?
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hortysir
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This was posted at 130am.
I was in bed, dimwit.
I haven't had my first cup of coffee yet, but there are videos of armed citizens stopping robberies all over YouTube.
"Mass shootings"? Much more rare but I seem to recall armed security guards stopping a couple nutjobs at an art show in Texas.
There were armed students in this most recent shooting spree and they acted responsibly and didn't engage in a wild west shootout with innocents in the crossfire.
Myself, personally? "Realistically", I probably would behave the same way unless a good shot presented itself.
Now, do you propose new and stricter gun laws as a solution?
How many laws did this particular nutjob break in this incident?
Because the nutjob at Sandy Hook broke around15 laws that day. Not the least of which "assault rifles" were already 'banned' in CT.
So, like in any similar discussion, I ask AGAIN :
What law would you introduce to stop this kind of thing from happening again?
I have a couple suggestions but they really aren't any kind of "law".
I would like to return to an America where life has value.
Where there is a parent present in the home to teach the value of life.
But modern America teaches us that abortion is an acceptable "choice" and mom and dad think that both of them has to work so everyone can have their own iPhone, the big screen tv and the newest shoes and styles.....So Johnny gets to sit at home alone on his ps4 shooting zombies and thinking it's real....no one around to teach him the difference between fantasy and reality.
We don't have a gun problem.
We have a culture problem
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You're fantasizing. There's nothing real about it. Because you have no means to understand the circumstances.
Gun fights are nothing like you describe.
Normal, stable, viable human beings do not just pull their sidearms and start shooting indiscriminately when a gun is discharged.
Normal, stable, viable human beings in possession of a firearm bear a tremendous responsibility and they are keenly aware of that responsibility every moment that they are carrying. And rest assured that it is NOTHING as you describe. As I said, with regard to your fantasy... it's absurd.
Wildman
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very good idea, i wonder IF any of you libertards read this: > "If America passed an immediate mass gun round up to end shootings here once and for all..."
and saw that little two letter word?? you tards are so fucked up i wonder how you know how to get out of bed and feed yourselves.
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A few years back I was training down at our local range and had the misfortune of standing in the lane next to a roided-out nut job.
Understand, I am 55 years old, with extensive firearm experience, and expert in the use of all of the equipment I own and then some and have been trained by and have trained some of the best in the world.
Anywho... to make a long story short, this 'guy', who appeared to me to be in his mid-30s, had come onto the firing line with two women... and took the lane to my left, during a cold line. I noticed that he was a bit of a joke, with military boots, utility trousers and a sidearm, (1911 .45APC) holstered on his hip and it appeared that he was wearing a soft vest under his T-shirt which advertised some gun shop or shooting event.
Once the line was declared hot, I returned to my station and resumed my regimen.
Uncharacteristically... as I am firing, I receive a tap on my Left shoulder (Again... it's a hot line, I'm firing...) and the knucklehead 'informs' me that I need to get some 'eye-pro'.
I remind him that it's a hot line, that I'm hot... and subsequently returned to my work.
When I was cycling to the next stage, he tells me in a raised voice, in what can only be a 'command', to "... get my eye-pro on'. To which I respond "No thanks, I don't train with eye-pro.", and I return to my work.
In my peripheral vision I see him leave and I sense that he's going to tattle to the range officer.
Sure enough, within a few minutes the range officer walks over to my station, waits for me to finish my cycle and asks if I wouldn't mind wearing the eye-pro... and points to the sign which requires it... and explains that it would be a favor to him and that he'd appreciate it. So I agree. Put on the eye-pro... and return to work.
When the line goes cold, I turn to my nosey neighbor and ask his name... 'I'm John". I tell him that I'm "W" and that while I appreciate his attention to line safety... that inserting himself into my lane is unsafe... distracting the shooter, unsafe ... and that at well over double the age of consent, with all of that time as an expert shooter, the next time he sees me in a lane, if he sees what he feels is an unsafe condition, to please keep it to his fuckin' self. "Understand?". Whereupon I gave him plenty of time to respond, while searching his eyes for some sign. Sadly, for the would be safety advocate, what I saw instead, was building rage.
But hey... he needed it and he's likely get over it.
So the range is declared hot and I go back to work. I see John leave out of my left peripheral and in the strangest turn of events, the next moment John is in my lane, hugging up my right side, asking me if I think I'm a tough guy. (It's a hot line, and I've got a hot sidearm in my hands... ) "John ... get the **** out of my lane."
He steps back out of my view and I thought out of my lane... so I think he's gone.
At that moment, John punches me directly in the side of my head. Then a shot the ribs... .
Well... I'm caught a little shocked... even for a douche this is pretty fucked up. But the first thing I needed to know is where was the side arm John was holstering on his hip, so, as my arms are extended, as I am in the processes of firing a cycle, I looked under my right arm to see where that piece was... in the same motion I looked to clear the pending shot... .
The piece was still holstered, but even if it had not been, I had no shot because the lanes were packed that day and there were several children directly behind John... and with the ball ammo I was firing, John would not have slowed them down much... . In the mean time, I've got a hot Sig and began to clear it, so I could deal with John. (Time lapsed now, 1-1.5 seconds).
Before I get the Sig back down to the bench, John's arm comes around my head and the douche starts choking me. So I just stand there, with a loaded firearm, as this jackass is hangin' off my neck trying to pull me out of my lane... .
It didn't take long before the range guys came a runnin' and stuck a pistol to his head, gettin' his attention... and he let go an was summarily dismissed from the range... FOREVER.
Now... I pass that along to point out that responsible people with loaded firearms do not just start shooting when their lives and/or safety is being threatened. The purpose of the firearm is to defend your life, from those who present no alternative but deadly force.
The Prog Mass-Murderers are examples of precisely that.
Suggestions that having an opposing firearm ready, is dangerous, is LUDICROUS...
Because the safety level in that moment and at that place is ALREADY off the scale.
And "Dangerous" is quite literally, a stark improvement in the general condition.
See how that works?
Understand, I am 55 years old, with extensive firearm experience, and expert in the use of all of the equipment I own and then some and have been trained by and have trained some of the best in the world.
Anywho... to make a long story short, this 'guy', who appeared to me to be in his mid-30s, had come onto the firing line with two women... and took the lane to my left, during a cold line. I noticed that he was a bit of a joke, with military boots, utility trousers and a sidearm, (1911 .45APC) holstered on his hip and it appeared that he was wearing a soft vest under his T-shirt which advertised some gun shop or shooting event.
Once the line was declared hot, I returned to my station and resumed my regimen.
Uncharacteristically... as I am firing, I receive a tap on my Left shoulder (Again... it's a hot line, I'm firing...) and the knucklehead 'informs' me that I need to get some 'eye-pro'.
I remind him that it's a hot line, that I'm hot... and subsequently returned to my work.
When I was cycling to the next stage, he tells me in a raised voice, in what can only be a 'command', to "... get my eye-pro on'. To which I respond "No thanks, I don't train with eye-pro.", and I return to my work.
In my peripheral vision I see him leave and I sense that he's going to tattle to the range officer.
Sure enough, within a few minutes the range officer walks over to my station, waits for me to finish my cycle and asks if I wouldn't mind wearing the eye-pro... and points to the sign which requires it... and explains that it would be a favor to him and that he'd appreciate it. So I agree. Put on the eye-pro... and return to work.
When the line goes cold, I turn to my nosey neighbor and ask his name... 'I'm John". I tell him that I'm "W" and that while I appreciate his attention to line safety... that inserting himself into my lane is unsafe... distracting the shooter, unsafe ... and that at well over double the age of consent, with all of that time as an expert shooter, the next time he sees me in a lane, if he sees what he feels is an unsafe condition, to please keep it to his fuckin' self. "Understand?". Whereupon I gave him plenty of time to respond, while searching his eyes for some sign. Sadly, for the would be safety advocate, what I saw instead, was building rage.
But hey... he needed it and he's likely get over it.
So the range is declared hot and I go back to work. I see John leave out of my left peripheral and in the strangest turn of events, the next moment John is in my lane, hugging up my right side, asking me if I think I'm a tough guy. (It's a hot line, and I've got a hot sidearm in my hands... ) "John ... get the **** out of my lane."
He steps back out of my view and I thought out of my lane... so I think he's gone.
At that moment, John punches me directly in the side of my head. Then a shot the ribs... .
Well... I'm caught a little shocked... even for a douche this is pretty fucked up. But the first thing I needed to know is where was the side arm John was holstering on his hip, so, as my arms are extended, as I am in the processes of firing a cycle, I looked under my right arm to see where that piece was... in the same motion I looked to clear the pending shot... .
The piece was still holstered, but even if it had not been, I had no shot because the lanes were packed that day and there were several children directly behind John... and with the ball ammo I was firing, John would not have slowed them down much... . In the mean time, I've got a hot Sig and began to clear it, so I could deal with John. (Time lapsed now, 1-1.5 seconds).
Before I get the Sig back down to the bench, John's arm comes around my head and the douche starts choking me. So I just stand there, with a loaded firearm, as this jackass is hangin' off my neck trying to pull me out of my lane... .
It didn't take long before the range guys came a runnin' and stuck a pistol to his head, gettin' his attention... and he let go an was summarily dismissed from the range... FOREVER.
Now... I pass that along to point out that responsible people with loaded firearms do not just start shooting when their lives and/or safety is being threatened. The purpose of the firearm is to defend your life, from those who present no alternative but deadly force.
The Prog Mass-Murderers are examples of precisely that.
Suggestions that having an opposing firearm ready, is dangerous, is LUDICROUS...
Because the safety level in that moment and at that place is ALREADY off the scale.
And "Dangerous" is quite literally, a stark improvement in the general condition.
See how that works?
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hortysir
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Well....I see my thread brought the typical response from liberals. Avoiding the topic.
They want gun bans. But....won't answer to the consequences of one or the necessary action to enforce one. They won't volunteer to be the ones going house to house taking guns. And they will NEVER admit that in that situation...they'd want a gun to protect them.
They want gun bans. But....won't answer to the consequences of one or the necessary action to enforce one. They won't volunteer to be the ones going house to house taking guns. And they will NEVER admit that in that situation...they'd want a gun to protect them.
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It is a wonderful paradox isn't it?
The problem ya have here, is that those to whom the question was asked, are Relativists. Thus they literally lack the means to reason objectively.
In normal times, outside of "The Far-side" existence we find ourselves in... such people would be institutionalized, with little to no access to the general public. Today, we just call them Mouthy British Socialists posing as US Citizens, passing along Foreign Ideas Hostile to American Principle.
The problem ya have here, is that those to whom the question was asked, are Relativists. Thus they literally lack the means to reason objectively.
In normal times, outside of "The Far-side" existence we find ourselves in... such people would be institutionalized, with little to no access to the general public. Today, we just call them Mouthy British Socialists posing as US Citizens, passing along Foreign Ideas Hostile to American Principle.
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LOL! So, using your reasoning, antibiotics are a means to extract: 'REVENGE' on infectious bacteria?
ROFL! Adorable.
charwin95
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So more guns will save more lives? We should sell guns on every liquor store like cigarettes so everyone should be armed? Don't work about any BC just sell it. As I previously mentioned I do not have a solution but I have a question... Like arming a professor will save lives... Do you really expect these people will really engage in gun battle? How is more guns solve this problem?
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LOL... Normal, stable viable human being I agree... but what if a human being is not as stable or not trained like you? So how is more guns will solve these mass shootings? I have several conservative friends in California that has massive gun collections that favor some forms of gun restrictions. It's not just liberals or conservatives or whatever groups that favor gun restrictions.
One of my fantasy as you mentioned... Do you really expect a professor carrying one gun on one hand or his/her gun sitting on top of his desk will be able to protect him/herself? Do you really expect the shooter will give you a warning such as.... I'm coming here to murder so you can pull your gun now....how can we even assure that they will even engage in a gun battle? Since you are the expert maybe you can wake me up in my fantasy.
Through out these years I fired at least 3 disgruntled employees and I use myself as an example of this scenario. If any of those nuts will walk into my building and shoot me...(using my iPhone as an example gun sitting on top of my desk). There ain't no way I can protect myself.
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