Liberals' War On Fast Food

[Sallow]

Let them complain when they have no jobs at all. It only makes sense to forgo human workers. Less chance of orders getting screwed up, an end to robberies.

The technology already exists to pretty much make fast-food outlets operate using robotics.
Watch how many fast food outlets begin replacing $15.00 hour simians with robotics.
The only reason this hasn't happened industry-wide is b/c the franchise owners up till now could pay minimum wage and make about 2-3% net profit.
The only reason so many people wanted to be franchise owners is b/c even though the profit margin is WAY below other profit margins the guaranteed volume in sales make fast food a solid business to be in.
Reduce the low net profit and a franchise owner is better off closing the business and starting an auto parts store. Or moving to robotics.

Sure it does.

And it did as far back as the 1900s.

We called them automats.

Automat - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

How'd they work out?

They worked out very very well! The only reason why the old automats failed is because the cashier machines could not take paper money. The technology wasn't that advanced. Automated fast food is growing in Europe and Japan.

You've been to Europe and Japan, I gather?

When I was there, automats were basically in places that people couldn't set up shop. Like on Subway platforms and train stations.

Otherwise? There are a plethora of food places with real live people working in them.

 

[blackhawk]

Liberals claim this is about income inequality. This is far from the truth. This is about creating another divisive issue. Nothing more.

Today there is a nationwide March against McDonald's to protest unfair wages. Paid protesters marching for fair wages organized n the usual suspects. Socialist/Marxist labor groups acting like they only want to look out for the poor.

What happens when the costs cancel out profits? You guessed it. Prices go up. Who suffers the most from inflation?

The poor.


What happens when your customers stop buying your product? Layoffs.

So who is really getting screwed by these protesters?

The employee.

I will be having lunch at McDonald's today.

 

[Samson]

Um, Liberals?

These are workers trying to form a Union. That is the ONLY way to get fair wages in this country. Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt. People who work for a living in the private sectors have been led by the nose with corporate heads demanding greater productivity. The greater productivity has happened. Sharing the profits has not.

People are tired of the bullshit.

And Unions? They aren't marxist. They've actually brought DOWN communist governments.

Commies and Fascists absolutely despise Unions.

Speaking of being "tired of Bullshit," the comment that "social mobility came to a halt" during the 1980's and only because of some intangible link to Unions being broken by Reagan is more than a little bullshit.

Since the 1940’s, the chances of rising from the lower-middle class to the upper class has been steadily dropping

Well no.

It's not bullshit.

But hey..let's hear your solutions to social mobility.

I mean outside the "flat tax" and "cut regulations" crapola.

Giving more money to rich people generally hasn't worked in the past.

I'll be happy to expound, but will not waste time with anyone who cannot admit that, "Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt" is BULLSHIT.

Of course you can't "expound".

Because it would probably involve some "Austrian" bullshit mixed with Randian super citizen stuff.

The fact remains that Unions, Education, Regulations, and Minimum Wages coupled with Government Jobs, actually help raise people from poverty.

Having a small Billionaires Boys Club, doesn't.

"The fact remains" that your comment, "Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt" demonstrates a ignorance so profound that you have no credibility onto which to base much of an opinion about the subject of social mobility.

Thanks for playing.

 

[Katzndogz]

Let them complain when they have no jobs at all. It only makes sense to forgo human workers. Less chance of orders getting screwed up, an end to robberies.

The technology already exists to pretty much make fast-food outlets operate using robotics.
Watch how many fast food outlets begin replacing $15.00 hour simians with robotics.
The only reason this hasn't happened industry-wide is b/c the franchise owners up till now could pay minimum wage and make about 2-3% net profit.
The only reason so many people wanted to be franchise owners is b/c even though the profit margin is WAY below other profit margins the guaranteed volume in sales make fast food a solid business to be in.
Reduce the low net profit and a franchise owner is better off closing the business and starting an auto parts store. Or moving to robotics.

Sure it does.

And it did as far back as the 1900s.

We called them automats.

Automat - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

How'd they work out?

They worked out very very well! The only reason why the old automats failed is because the cashier machines could not take paper money. The technology wasn't that advanced. Automated fast food is growing in Europe and Japan.

You've been to Europe and Japan, I gather?

When I was there, automats were basically in places that people couldn't set up shop. Like on Subway platforms and train stations.

Otherwise? There are a plethora of food places with real live people working in them.

The Fast-Food Restaurants That Require Few Human Workers All Tech Considered NPR
Today, Amsterdam's Febo chain of stores feature only vending-machine service for burgers, fries and more. A few employees are responsible for stocking the items behind the machines but way out of customer view, so you can walk up, drop in your coins and get a hot meal after a long night out without talking to anyone face-to-face.
Japan also has a version of automats, known there as shokkenki. There, you choose the meal you want and purchase a ticket for it, then you hand in your ticket to the cook behind the counter. I guess this eliminates the role for the person who takes your order at the register

Maybe you were there awhile ago and don't know about automating fast food in other countries.

In Europe which has higher wages than here, the change over is already happening.

McDonald s orders 7 000 touchscreen kiosks to replace cashiers - Neowin

McDonald's recently added 64,000 people to its payroll in the United States, but job prospects in Europe for those so inclined to work in the fast food industry are looking pretty grim right about now. That's because the fast food giant is poised to add touchscreen kiosks in more than 7,000 of its restaurants in Europe in effort to replace actual, human cashiers.

The argument is over. It's going to happen. Fighting and protesting for $15.00 an hour for a job worth 7 will only hasten the demise of the human fast food worker.

 

[mudwhistle]

I can get an 8" sub from a locally owned and operated food establishment. It includes a table and waitress. For $8.50 I have food and pay a $2 tip. Fast food isn't that much cheaper.

Entry level jobs are not meant to pay for all of life's expenses. It is for experience and motivation to get a better job. Kill off fast food joints, I'll not shed a tear.

Ridiculous to say that some jobs are not meant to support the worker.

Ridiculous for a worker to take a job that won't support them.

This all or nothing attitude seems to becoming a habit.

Some people take transition jobs just so they can eat while waiting for better opportunities.

 

[mudwhistle]

Liberals claim this is about income inequality. This is far from the truth. This is about creating another divisive issue. Nothing more.

Today there is a nationwide March against McDonald's to protest unfair wages. Paid protesters marching for fair wages organized n the usual suspects. Socialist/Marxist labor groups acting like they only want to look out for the poor.

What happens when the costs cancel out profits? You guessed it. Prices go up. Who suffers the most from inflation?

The poor.


What happens when your customers stop buying your product? Layoffs.

So who is really getting screwed by these protesters?

The employee.

I will be having lunch at McDonald's today.

I can't afford it.

 

[Sallow]

Um, Liberals?

These are workers trying to form a Union. That is the ONLY way to get fair wages in this country. Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt. People who work for a living in the private sectors have been led by the nose with corporate heads demanding greater productivity. The greater productivity has happened. Sharing the profits has not.

People are tired of the bullshit.

And Unions? They aren't marxist. They've actually brought DOWN communist governments.

Commies and Fascists absolutely despise Unions.

Speaking of being "tired of Bullshit," the comment that "social mobility came to a halt" during the 1980's and only because of some intangible link to Unions being broken by Reagan is more than a little bullshit.

Since the 1940’s, the chances of rising from the lower-middle class to the upper class has been steadily dropping

Well no.

It's not bullshit.

But hey..let's hear your solutions to social mobility.

I mean outside the "flat tax" and "cut regulations" crapola.

Giving more money to rich people generally hasn't worked in the past.

I'll be happy to expound, but will not waste time with anyone who cannot admit that, "Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt" is BULLSHIT.

Of course you can't "expound".

Because it would probably involve some "Austrian" bullshit mixed with Randian super citizen stuff.

The fact remains that Unions, Education, Regulations, and Minimum Wages coupled with Government Jobs, actually help raise people from poverty.

Having a small Billionaires Boys Club, doesn't.

"The fact remains" that your comment, "Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt" demonstrates a ignorance so profound that you have no credibility onto which to base much of an opinion about the subject of social mobility.

Thanks for playing.

Oh.

This is a declare victory thing.

The creation of a real middle class occurred after the New Deal.

Before that? No real or substantial Middle Class in this country.

Pulling up some chart with no link doesn't, at all, back your claim there's been no social mobility in this country since the 40s.

THAT'S BULLSHIT.

 

[Sallow]

Let them complain when they have no jobs at all. It only makes sense to forgo human workers. Less chance of orders getting screwed up, an end to robberies.

The technology already exists to pretty much make fast-food outlets operate using robotics.
Watch how many fast food outlets begin replacing $15.00 hour simians with robotics.
The only reason this hasn't happened industry-wide is b/c the franchise owners up till now could pay minimum wage and make about 2-3% net profit.
The only reason so many people wanted to be franchise owners is b/c even though the profit margin is WAY below other profit margins the guaranteed volume in sales make fast food a solid business to be in.
Reduce the low net profit and a franchise owner is better off closing the business and starting an auto parts store. Or moving to robotics.

Sure it does.

And it did as far back as the 1900s.

We called them automats.

Automat - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

How'd they work out?

They worked out very very well! The only reason why the old automats failed is because the cashier machines could not take paper money. The technology wasn't that advanced. Automated fast food is growing in Europe and Japan.

You've been to Europe and Japan, I gather?

When I was there, automats were basically in places that people couldn't set up shop. Like on Subway platforms and train stations.

Otherwise? There are a plethora of food places with real live people working in them.

The Fast-Food Restaurants That Require Few Human Workers All Tech Considered NPR
Today, Amsterdam's Febo chain of stores feature only vending-machine service for burgers, fries and more. A few employees are responsible for stocking the items behind the machines but way out of customer view, so you can walk up, drop in your coins and get a hot meal after a long night out without talking to anyone face-to-face.
Japan also has a version of automats, known there as shokkenki. There, you choose the meal you want and purchase a ticket for it, then you hand in your ticket to the cook behind the counter. I guess this eliminates the role for the person who takes your order at the register

Maybe you were there awhile ago and don't know about automating fast food in other countries.

In Europe which has higher wages than here, the change over is already happening.

McDonald s orders 7 000 touchscreen kiosks to replace cashiers - Neowin

McDonald's recently added 64,000 people to its payroll in the United States, but job prospects in Europe for those so inclined to work in the fast food industry are looking pretty grim right about now. That's because the fast food giant is poised to add touchscreen kiosks in more than 7,000 of its restaurants in Europe in effort to replace actual, human cashiers.

The argument is over. It's going to happen. Fighting and protesting for $15.00 an hour for a job worth 7 will only hasten the demise of the human fast food worker.

Sorry?

Getting info from a blog?

Have you been to either Japan or Europe?

At all?

 

[Katzndogz]

Let them complain when they have no jobs at all. It only makes sense to forgo human workers. Less chance of orders getting screwed up, an end to robberies.

The technology already exists to pretty much make fast-food outlets operate using robotics.
Watch how many fast food outlets begin replacing $15.00 hour simians with robotics.
The only reason this hasn't happened industry-wide is b/c the franchise owners up till now could pay minimum wage and make about 2-3% net profit.
The only reason so many people wanted to be franchise owners is b/c even though the profit margin is WAY below other profit margins the guaranteed volume in sales make fast food a solid business to be in.
Reduce the low net profit and a franchise owner is better off closing the business and starting an auto parts store. Or moving to robotics.

Sure it does.

And it did as far back as the 1900s.

We called them automats.

Automat - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

How'd they work out?

They worked out very very well! The only reason why the old automats failed is because the cashier machines could not take paper money. The technology wasn't that advanced. Automated fast food is growing in Europe and Japan.

You've been to Europe and Japan, I gather?

When I was there, automats were basically in places that people couldn't set up shop. Like on Subway platforms and train stations.

Otherwise? There are a plethora of food places with real live people working in them.

The Fast-Food Restaurants That Require Few Human Workers All Tech Considered NPR
Today, Amsterdam's Febo chain of stores feature only vending-machine service for burgers, fries and more. A few employees are responsible for stocking the items behind the machines but way out of customer view, so you can walk up, drop in your coins and get a hot meal after a long night out without talking to anyone face-to-face.
Japan also has a version of automats, known there as shokkenki. There, you choose the meal you want and purchase a ticket for it, then you hand in your ticket to the cook behind the counter. I guess this eliminates the role for the person who takes your order at the register

Maybe you were there awhile ago and don't know about automating fast food in other countries.

In Europe which has higher wages than here, the change over is already happening.

McDonald s orders 7 000 touchscreen kiosks to replace cashiers - Neowin

McDonald's recently added 64,000 people to its payroll in the United States, but job prospects in Europe for those so inclined to work in the fast food industry are looking pretty grim right about now. That's because the fast food giant is poised to add touchscreen kiosks in more than 7,000 of its restaurants in Europe in effort to replace actual, human cashiers.

The argument is over. It's going to happen. Fighting and protesting for $15.00 an hour for a job worth 7 will only hasten the demise of the human fast food worker.

Sorry?

Getting info from a blog?

Have you been to either Japan or Europe?

At all?

You are free to provide any evidence you want to refute my link. You can't. You are a liberal and therefore do not think beyond your programming.

It is over. Fast food will automate and is going through the process right now. If these fast food workers want a job in the future, they should go back to school and learn how to maintain and repair their replacements.

Didn't the same thing happen when demands for higher wages contributed to pushing American manufacturing off shore?. Americans were required to train their Indian and Chinese replacements then too. At that time liberals also said there would be no exodus of manufacturing jobs, or even service center jobs. Employers would just pay the higher wages and pass the cost along to the customer. It didn't happen. Prices went down for the customer as cheaper labor was used.

Liberals never learn. They really think that their demands have to be met and there are no alternatives. There are alternatives, These workers will be replaced, rather quickly. The same way they are being replaced elsewhere.

 

[Sallow]

Let them complain when they have no jobs at all. It only makes sense to forgo human workers. Less chance of orders getting screwed up, an end to robberies.

The technology already exists to pretty much make fast-food outlets operate using robotics.
Watch how many fast food outlets begin replacing $15.00 hour simians with robotics.
The only reason this hasn't happened industry-wide is b/c the franchise owners up till now could pay minimum wage and make about 2-3% net profit.
The only reason so many people wanted to be franchise owners is b/c even though the profit margin is WAY below other profit margins the guaranteed volume in sales make fast food a solid business to be in.
Reduce the low net profit and a franchise owner is better off closing the business and starting an auto parts store. Or moving to robotics.

Sure it does.

And it did as far back as the 1900s.

We called them automats.

Automat - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

How'd they work out?

They worked out very very well! The only reason why the old automats failed is because the cashier machines could not take paper money. The technology wasn't that advanced. Automated fast food is growing in Europe and Japan.

You've been to Europe and Japan, I gather?

When I was there, automats were basically in places that people couldn't set up shop. Like on Subway platforms and train stations.

Otherwise? There are a plethora of food places with real live people working in them.

The Fast-Food Restaurants That Require Few Human Workers All Tech Considered NPR
Today, Amsterdam's Febo chain of stores feature only vending-machine service for burgers, fries and more. A few employees are responsible for stocking the items behind the machines but way out of customer view, so you can walk up, drop in your coins and get a hot meal after a long night out without talking to anyone face-to-face.
Japan also has a version of automats, known there as shokkenki. There, you choose the meal you want and purchase a ticket for it, then you hand in your ticket to the cook behind the counter. I guess this eliminates the role for the person who takes your order at the register

Maybe you were there awhile ago and don't know about automating fast food in other countries.

In Europe which has higher wages than here, the change over is already happening.

McDonald s orders 7 000 touchscreen kiosks to replace cashiers - Neowin

McDonald's recently added 64,000 people to its payroll in the United States, but job prospects in Europe for those so inclined to work in the fast food industry are looking pretty grim right about now. That's because the fast food giant is poised to add touchscreen kiosks in more than 7,000 of its restaurants in Europe in effort to replace actual, human cashiers.

The argument is over. It's going to happen. Fighting and protesting for $15.00 an hour for a job worth 7 will only hasten the demise of the human fast food worker.

Sorry?

Getting info from a blog?

Have you been to either Japan or Europe?

At all?

You are free to provide any evidence you want to refute my link. You can't. You are a liberal and therefore do not think beyond your programming.

It is over. Fast food will automate and is going through the process right now. If these fast food workers want a job in the future, they should go back to school and learn how to maintain and repair their replacements.

Didn't the same thing happen when demands for higher wages contributed to pushing American manufacturing off shore?. Americans were required to train their Indian and Chinese replacements then too. At that time liberals also said there would be no exodus of manufacturing jobs, or even service center jobs. Employers would just pay the higher wages and pass the cost along to the customer. It didn't happen. Prices went down for the customer as cheaper labor was used.

Liberals never learn. They really think that their demands have to be met and there are no alternatives. There are alternatives, These workers will be replaced, rather quickly. The same way they are being replaced elsewhere.

Well if you feel so strongly that the fast food industry will automate? Let's wager.

It might automate a little? But it's not going to completely automate.

Additionally? In regards to Europe and Japan? They are much more generous with people that don't have jobs. You probably didn't know this. They don't let their citizens languish in poverty, for the most part. That's something you probably didn't know either. When you go to fast food restaurants there? It's mainly populated by teen aged employees. You don't find mothers and old people working in those places.

I actually visited Australia this year. Ever hear of it?

The minimum wage there is 20 bucks an hour.

It's one of the happiest and healthiest places I've ever been too.

Now go run to a blog and let me know how miserable Australians are..

 

[dannyboys]

The fast food industry in Japan is staffed by VERY bright young people. Pretty much everyone of them are headed to 'real' universities to then become successful in their field of study.
Virtually no young Japanese fast food worker intends for their job to be a permanent one by any means.
Compare and contrast this fact with the vast majority of fast food workers in the US. NO ******* COMPARISON!
Virtually every fast food worker in the US is barely able to understand common english tell alone speak it. Math? That's a joke.
Manners? What ******* manners?
They are semi-literates with low IQs and virtually zero chance of ever getting within a thousand miles of having a 'middle class' life style.
But they expect to be paid $15.00 to do a $7.00 hour job.
Robotics can serve up their daily pail of fat/carbonated sugar water/salt and MSG which they will gladly continue pay at today's prices.

 

[Samson]

I can get an 8" sub from a locally owned and operated food establishment. It includes a table and waitress. For $8.50 I have food and pay a $2 tip. Fast food isn't that much cheaper.

Entry level jobs are not meant to pay for all of life's expenses. It is for experience and motivation to get a better job. Kill off fast food joints, I'll not shed a tear.

Ridiculous to say that some jobs are not meant to support the worker.

Ridiculous for a worker to take a job that won't support them.

This all or nothing attitude seems to becoming a habit.

Some people take transition jobs just so they can eat while waiting for better opportunities.

True, I'll rephrase: Ridiculous to make a career working in jobs that won't support them.

 

[Samson]

Um, Liberals?

These are workers trying to form a Union. That is the ONLY way to get fair wages in this country. Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt. People who work for a living in the private sectors have been led by the nose with corporate heads demanding greater productivity. The greater productivity has happened. Sharing the profits has not.

People are tired of the bullshit.

And Unions? They aren't marxist. They've actually brought DOWN communist governments.

Commies and Fascists absolutely despise Unions.

Speaking of being "tired of Bullshit," the comment that "social mobility came to a halt" during the 1980's and only because of some intangible link to Unions being broken by Reagan is more than a little bullshit.

Since the 1940’s, the chances of rising from the lower-middle class to the upper class has been steadily dropping

Well no.

It's not bullshit.

But hey..let's hear your solutions to social mobility.

I mean outside the "flat tax" and "cut regulations" crapola.

Giving more money to rich people generally hasn't worked in the past.

I'll be happy to expound, but will not waste time with anyone who cannot admit that, "Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt" is BULLSHIT.

Of course you can't "expound".

Because it would probably involve some "Austrian" bullshit mixed with Randian super citizen stuff.

The fact remains that Unions, Education, Regulations, and Minimum Wages coupled with Government Jobs, actually help raise people from poverty.

Having a small Billionaires Boys Club, doesn't.

"The fact remains" that your comment, "Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt" demonstrates a ignorance so profound that you have no credibility onto which to base much of an opinion about the subject of social mobility.

Thanks for playing.

Oh.

This is a declare victory thing.

The creation of a real middle class occurred after the New Deal.

Before that? No real or substantial Middle Class in this country.

Pulling up some chart with no link doesn't, at all, back your claim there's been no social mobility in this country since the 40s.

THAT'S BULLSHIT.

The link is below the chart, I'm always willing to help the handicapped:

Conservative Propaganda leads to moral ethical bankruptcy Badger Democracy

 

[mudwhistle]

Um, Liberals?

These are workers trying to form a Union. That is the ONLY way to get fair wages in this country. Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt. People who work for a living in the private sectors have been led by the nose with corporate heads demanding greater productivity. The greater productivity has happened. Sharing the profits has not.

People are tired of the bullshit.

And Unions? They aren't marxist. They've actually brought DOWN communist governments.

Commies and Fascists absolutely despise Unions.

Speaking of being "tired of Bullshit," the comment that "social mobility came to a halt" during the 1980's and only because of some intangible link to Unions being broken by Reagan is more than a little bullshit.

Since the 1940’s, the chances of rising from the lower-middle class to the upper class has been steadily dropping

Well no.

It's not bullshit.

But hey..let's hear your solutions to social mobility.

I mean outside the "flat tax" and "cut regulations" crapola.

Giving more money to rich people generally hasn't worked in the past.

I'll be happy to expound, but will not waste time with anyone who cannot admit that, "Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt" is BULLSHIT.

Of course you can't "expound".

Because it would probably involve some "Austrian" bullshit mixed with Randian super citizen stuff.

The fact remains that Unions, Education, Regulations, and Minimum Wages coupled with Government Jobs, actually help raise people from poverty.

Having a small Billionaires Boys Club, doesn't.

"The fact remains" that your comment, "Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt" demonstrates a ignorance so profound that you have no credibility onto which to base much of an opinion about the subject of social mobility.

Thanks for playing.

Oh.

This is a declare victory thing.

The creation of a real middle class occurred after the New Deal.

Before that? No real or substantial Middle Class in this country.

Pulling up some chart with no link doesn't, at all, back your claim there's been no social mobility in this country since the 40s.

THAT'S BULLSHIT.

The link is below the chart, I'm always willing to help the handicapped:

Conservative Propaganda leads to moral ethical bankruptcy Badger Democracy

The first two aren't even conservative beliefs. Nobody is saying you'll become rich if the government would just get out of the way. What government is really good at is stifling opportunity. This is a country where anyone can become rich. Some countries won't allow it unless I you have the right birthright.

The last belief is based on a false premise that the rich have to be forced to be generous. America is the most giving country in the world because of one thing. More people here can afford to be generous.

 

[depotoo]

Sorry?

Getting info from a blog?

Have you been to either Japan or Europe?

At all?

This store is in Romeoville, IL. Think again it won't happ-en.

 

[Mr Natural]

Yeah, the last thing workers need is more money.

 

[Sallow]

Um, Liberals?

These are workers trying to form a Union. That is the ONLY way to get fair wages in this country. Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt. People who work for a living in the private sectors have been led by the nose with corporate heads demanding greater productivity. The greater productivity has happened. Sharing the profits has not.

People are tired of the bullshit.

And Unions? They aren't marxist. They've actually brought DOWN communist governments.

Commies and Fascists absolutely despise Unions.

Speaking of being "tired of Bullshit," the comment that "social mobility came to a halt" during the 1980's and only because of some intangible link to Unions being broken by Reagan is more than a little bullshit.

Since the 1940’s, the chances of rising from the lower-middle class to the upper class has been steadily dropping

Well no.

It's not bullshit.

But hey..let's hear your solutions to social mobility.

I mean outside the "flat tax" and "cut regulations" crapola.

Giving more money to rich people generally hasn't worked in the past.

I'll be happy to expound, but will not waste time with anyone who cannot admit that, "Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt" is BULLSHIT.

Of course you can't "expound".

Because it would probably involve some "Austrian" bullshit mixed with Randian super citizen stuff.

The fact remains that Unions, Education, Regulations, and Minimum Wages coupled with Government Jobs, actually help raise people from poverty.

Having a small Billionaires Boys Club, doesn't.

"The fact remains" that your comment, "Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt" demonstrates a ignorance so profound that you have no credibility onto which to base much of an opinion about the subject of social mobility.

Thanks for playing.

Oh.

This is a declare victory thing.

The creation of a real middle class occurred after the New Deal.

Before that? No real or substantial Middle Class in this country.

Pulling up some chart with no link doesn't, at all, back your claim there's been no social mobility in this country since the 40s.

THAT'S BULLSHIT.

The link is below the chart, I'm always willing to help the handicapped:

Conservative Propaganda leads to moral ethical bankruptcy Badger Democracy

Um, Liberals?

These are workers trying to form a Union. That is the ONLY way to get fair wages in this country. Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt. People who work for a living in the private sectors have been led by the nose with corporate heads demanding greater productivity. The greater productivity has happened. Sharing the profits has not.

People are tired of the bullshit.

And Unions? They aren't marxist. They've actually brought DOWN communist governments.

Commies and Fascists absolutely despise Unions.

Speaking of being "tired of Bullshit," the comment that "social mobility came to a halt" during the 1980's and only because of some intangible link to Unions being broken by Reagan is more than a little bullshit.

Since the 1940’s, the chances of rising from the lower-middle class to the upper class has been steadily dropping

Well no.

It's not bullshit.

But hey..let's hear your solutions to social mobility.

I mean outside the "flat tax" and "cut regulations" crapola.

Giving more money to rich people generally hasn't worked in the past.

I'll be happy to expound, but will not waste time with anyone who cannot admit that, "Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt" is BULLSHIT.

Of course you can't "expound".

Because it would probably involve some "Austrian" bullshit mixed with Randian super citizen stuff.

The fact remains that Unions, Education, Regulations, and Minimum Wages coupled with Government Jobs, actually help raise people from poverty.

Having a small Billionaires Boys Club, doesn't.

"The fact remains" that your comment, "Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt" demonstrates a ignorance so profound that you have no credibility onto which to base much of an opinion about the subject of social mobility.

Thanks for playing.

Oh.

This is a declare victory thing.

The creation of a real middle class occurred after the New Deal.

Before that? No real or substantial Middle Class in this country.

Pulling up some chart with no link doesn't, at all, back your claim there's been no social mobility in this country since the 40s.

THAT'S BULLSHIT.

The link is below the chart, I'm always willing to help the handicapped:

Conservative Propaganda leads to moral ethical bankruptcy Badger Democracy

So you got the chart from a blog that doesn't source where they got the chart so you can examine the method they used for establishing their data points.

Nice.

Good on you.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Um, Liberals?

These are workers trying to form a Union. That is the ONLY way to get fair wages in this country. Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt. People who work for a living in the private sectors have been led by the nose with corporate heads demanding greater productivity. The greater productivity has happened. Sharing the profits has not.

People are tired of the bullshit.

And Unions? They aren't marxist. They've actually brought DOWN communist governments.

Commies and Fascists absolutely despise Unions.

They are already getting a fair wage dumbass. Why the **** shoud a fry cook get the same wage as a new nurse or dental assistant? It's asinine what your ilk is doing to the stupid & gullible in our country.

 

[Samson]

Um, Liberals?

These are workers trying to form a Union. That is the ONLY way to get fair wages in this country. Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt. People who work for a living in the private sectors have been led by the nose with corporate heads demanding greater productivity. The greater productivity has happened. Sharing the profits has not.

People are tired of the bullshit.

And Unions? They aren't marxist. They've actually brought DOWN communist governments.

Commies and Fascists absolutely despise Unions.

Speaking of being "tired of Bullshit," the comment that "social mobility came to a halt" during the 1980's and only because of some intangible link to Unions being broken by Reagan is more than a little bullshit.

Since the 1940’s, the chances of rising from the lower-middle class to the upper class has been steadily dropping

Well no.

It's not bullshit.

But hey..let's hear your solutions to social mobility.

I mean outside the "flat tax" and "cut regulations" crapola.

Giving more money to rich people generally hasn't worked in the past.

I'll be happy to expound, but will not waste time with anyone who cannot admit that, "Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt" is BULLSHIT.

Of course you can't "expound".

Because it would probably involve some "Austrian" bullshit mixed with Randian super citizen stuff.

The fact remains that Unions, Education, Regulations, and Minimum Wages coupled with Government Jobs, actually help raise people from poverty.

Having a small Billionaires Boys Club, doesn't.

"The fact remains" that your comment, "Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt" demonstrates a ignorance so profound that you have no credibility onto which to base much of an opinion about the subject of social mobility.

Thanks for playing.

Oh.

This is a declare victory thing.

The creation of a real middle class occurred after the New Deal.

Before that? No real or substantial Middle Class in this country.

Pulling up some chart with no link doesn't, at all, back your claim there's been no social mobility in this country since the 40s.

THAT'S BULLSHIT.

The link is below the chart, I'm always willing to help the handicapped:

Conservative Propaganda leads to moral ethical bankruptcy Badger Democracy

Um, Liberals?

These are workers trying to form a Union. That is the ONLY way to get fair wages in this country. Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt. People who work for a living in the private sectors have been led by the nose with corporate heads demanding greater productivity. The greater productivity has happened. Sharing the profits has not.

People are tired of the bullshit.

And Unions? They aren't marxist. They've actually brought DOWN communist governments.

Commies and Fascists absolutely despise Unions.

Speaking of being "tired of Bullshit," the comment that "social mobility came to a halt" during the 1980's and only because of some intangible link to Unions being broken by Reagan is more than a little bullshit.

Since the 1940’s, the chances of rising from the lower-middle class to the upper class has been steadily dropping

Well no.

It's not bullshit.

But hey..let's hear your solutions to social mobility.

I mean outside the "flat tax" and "cut regulations" crapola.

Giving more money to rich people generally hasn't worked in the past.

I'll be happy to expound, but will not waste time with anyone who cannot admit that, "Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt" is BULLSHIT.

Of course you can't "expound".

Because it would probably involve some "Austrian" bullshit mixed with Randian super citizen stuff.

The fact remains that Unions, Education, Regulations, and Minimum Wages coupled with Government Jobs, actually help raise people from poverty.

Having a small Billionaires Boys Club, doesn't.

"The fact remains" that your comment, "Reagan broke the Unions in the 80s, and social mobility came to a halt" demonstrates a ignorance so profound that you have no credibility onto which to base much of an opinion about the subject of social mobility.

Thanks for playing.

Oh.

This is a declare victory thing.

The creation of a real middle class occurred after the New Deal.

Before that? No real or substantial Middle Class in this country.

Pulling up some chart with no link doesn't, at all, back your claim there's been no social mobility in this country since the 40s.

THAT'S BULLSHIT.

The link is below the chart, I'm always willing to help the handicapped:

Conservative Propaganda leads to moral ethical bankruptcy Badger Democracy

So you got the chart from a blog that doesn't source where they got the chart so you can examine the method they used for establishing their data points.

Nice.

Good on you.

You have anything to support your opinion?

No.

Check-Mate.

 

[Samson]

Yeah, the last thing workers need is more money.

Thanks Captain Obvious!

Who thinks they need less money?

Your blinding genius is always predictable.