Liberal profs admit they’d discriminate against conservatives in hiring, advancement

[NYcarbineer]

How many liberal professors do you suppose there are at the late Jerry Falwell's Liberty University?

No one wants to make a guess?

How about we agree that a conservative college like Liberty is just as likely to discriminate against liberals applying for teaching jobs as any liberal college is to discriminate against conservatives.

Anyone have evidence to prove that inaccurate?

Liberty University is a private school that does't accept government money of any kind.

Try again.

That is irrelevant to the issue of whether or not they discriminate against liberal job applicants.

 

[NYcarbineer]

You can't possibly be this fucking stupid.

Point out ANYTHING in what I said that was wrong.

Start by telling us how in a hypothetical situation where 2 candidates are equally qualified, could it be discrimination to choose the liberal instead of the conservative.

In a hypothetical situation where 2 candidates are equally qualified, how could it be discrimination to choose the white guy instead of the black guy?

It isn't, unless the courts have decided that a special circumstance exists where a remedy is appropriate.

Do you want affirmative action for conservative teachers? lol

 

[NYcarbineer]

No it isn't. The central theme is that, since liberals dominate the academic fields, they feel comfortable in openly discriminating against anyone who does not share their views. I feel quite certain that, if conservatives had the upper hand, they would be doing the same thing.

Unlike you, I will admit they would be wrong to do so.

Where did I say they wouldn't be wrong to do so? Don't lie about what I said.

Where did I say you said that? What I said is that I, unlike you, will admit they will be wrong. You have never once said that the liberals who do this are wrong. You have tried to argue that it is not discrimination because the candidates are equally qualified, and that it is not illegal. You have not said it is wrong. Even now, you are not saying it, you are trying to argue I am putting words in your mouth. I stand by my statement.

Unlike you, I will say this is wrong no matter who does it.

I said it was NOT discrimination to choose a person for a job based on their politics when they were EQUALLY QUALIFIED. That was the premise of the study question.

How could it be? If you think it is, tell us why, in detail.

 

[francoHFW]

Popular "conservative thought" these days is total BULLSHYTTE, for dupes only, see sig.

 

[Inthemiddle]

LBJ was not actually elected, and actually lost the primary battle to a liberal from his own party.

Idiot.

 

[daveman]

In academia, it is.

And if the PURPOSE of higher ed. is to teach students multiple theories to reach independent conclusions, wouldn't it be logical to have more conservatives on staff? Yes or no?

Or is the purpose of higher ed. something completely different?

The left has perverted higher education.

It used to teach how to think.

Now it teaches WHAT to think.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You just described what the Far Left and the Far Right do: indoctrinate.

Your issue is that you are poorly indoctrinated and mess up all the time in doing it.

In academia, it is.

And if the PURPOSE of higher ed. is to teach students multiple theories to reach independent conclusions, wouldn't it be logical to have more conservatives on staff? Yes or no?

Or is the purpose of higher ed. something completely different?

The left has perverted higher education.

It used to teach how to think.

Now it teaches WHAT to think.

 

[daveman]

If I were given two equally qualified candidates, and if I knew one was liberal and one was conservative,

and if I made my hiring decision based on their politics, I would definitely hire the liberal.

Not one person here can make a substantive argument that I would be engaging in job discrimination.

I agreed with you, Carby. I'm hurt that you didn't acknowledge my post.

So, not one person here can tell us why it is discrimination if I chose the liberal over the conservative for a job,

if both were EQUALLY QUALIFIED.

And yet you'll call it discrimination. That is irrational.

If both candidates are equally qualified, I have no problem with the liberal doing the hiring displaying his fear of other viewpoints and protecting the insular hive.

 

[daveman]

I did not reject the credibility of the study. The study was designed to determine how much discrimination there is in the academic community, not to prove there wasn't any. The authors of the study expected to find it, what surprised them is how much of it is open. I don't know how you can take that as proof that discrimination does not exist, but partisan logic only makes sense to partisans.

Then you throw in the race card, proving beyond doubt you know I am right.

First of all, you've never even SEEN the study, except for one example question provided in the propaganda piece in the OP,

which you admitted was a bogus question.

Are you a racist or not? Is that too difficult a question for you?

What makes it a propaganda piece?

It exposes a bit of truth about liberals.

 

[daveman]

You just described what the Far Left and the Far Right do: indoctrinate.

Your issue is that you are poorly indoctrinated and mess up all the time in doing it.

In academia, it is.

And if the PURPOSE of higher ed. is to teach students multiple theories to reach independent conclusions, wouldn't it be logical to have more conservatives on staff? Yes or no?

Or is the purpose of higher ed. something completely different?

The left has perverted higher education.

It used to teach how to think.

Now it teaches WHAT to think.

Boy, when I want your opinion, I'll...I'll...

Well, I don't know. I can't imagine ever wanting your opinion.

Got all your school supplies? Backpack? Paper? Lunch box?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

First of all, you've never even SEEN the study, except for one example question provided in the propaganda piece in the OP,

which you admitted was a bogus question.

Are you a racist or not? Is that too difficult a question for you?

What makes it a propaganda piece?

I already explained that. Reread my posts.

Are you a racist or not?

You think it is a propaganda piece because you don't like the conclusion, and think that they should emphasize the people who lied.

Fine, at least 60% of college professors are willing to lie about how they discriminate against people they do not like, is that a better title?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Where did I say they wouldn't be wrong to do so? Don't lie about what I said.

Where did I say you said that? What I said is that I, unlike you, will admit they will be wrong. You have never once said that the liberals who do this are wrong. You have tried to argue that it is not discrimination because the candidates are equally qualified, and that it is not illegal. You have not said it is wrong. Even now, you are not saying it, you are trying to argue I am putting words in your mouth. I stand by my statement.

Unlike you, I will say this is wrong no matter who does it.

I said it was NOT discrimination to choose a person for a job based on their politics when they were EQUALLY QUALIFIED. That was the premise of the study question.

How could it be? If you think it is, tell us why, in detail.

How can if be discrimination to chose a more qualified white man over a less qualified black one?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Where did I say you said that? What I said is that I, unlike you, will admit they will be wrong. You have never once said that the liberals who do this are wrong. You have tried to argue that it is not discrimination because the candidates are equally qualified, and that it is not illegal. You have not said it is wrong. Even now, you are not saying it, you are trying to argue I am putting words in your mouth. I stand by my statement.

Unlike you, I will say this is wrong no matter who does it.

I said it was NOT discrimination to choose a person for a job based on their politics when they were EQUALLY QUALIFIED. That was the premise of the study question.

How could it be? If you think it is, tell us why, in detail.

How can if be discrimination to chose a more qualified white man over a less qualified black one?

Are you a racist? Why are you having trouble answering that question?

It's not discrimination to choose a more qualified white man. However, if a court determination has been made that past discrimination warrants a remedy, affirmative action to the benefit of the black man might be the remedy.

 

[NYcarbineer]

What makes it a propaganda piece?

I already explained that. Reread my posts.

Are you a racist or not?

You think it is a propaganda piece because you don't like the conclusion, and think that they should emphasize the people who lied.

Fine, at least 60% of college professors are willing to lie about how they discriminate against people they do not like, is that a better title?

It's propaganda because it uses a classic propaganda tactic, the half-truth, to advance a false impression.

 

[chanel]

Chanel, your conclusion is silly because it is not true based on the postings here. Try again.

No it isn't. The central theme is that, since liberals dominate the academic fields, they feel comfortable in openly discriminating against anyone who does not share their views. I feel quite certain that, if conservatives had the upper hand, they would be doing the same thing.

Unlike you, I will admit they would be wrong to do so.

Of course that would be wrong. But you and I and most conservatives on this board would most likely appreciate our children being exposed to diverse points of view. A 50/50 balance would be ideal.

But as we have seen by the libs on this thread, they would be pleased with 100 percent liberal colleges. And that's really the point of the OP.

Silly? I've read this thread though again. The lib rebuttals have been:

a. It's not a credible study
b. Conservatives would probably do the same
c. Good

Please enlighten me where someone other than QW and myself have said it's wrong; and it would be wrong if it were the other way.

And while everyone is focusing on the hiring question, it also mentions discrimination regarding research done by their OWN CONSERVATIVE COLLEAGUES. These are people they work with. Disgraceful.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Thank you.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Chanel, your conclusion is silly because it is not true based on the postings here. Try again.

Of course that would be wrong. But you and I and most conservatives on this board would most likely appreciate our children being exposed to diverse points of view. A 50/50 balance would be ideal.

But as we have seen by the libs on this thread, they would be pleased with 100 percent liberal colleges. And that's really the point of the OP.

Silly? I've read this thread though again. The lib rebuttals have been:

a. It's not a credible study
b. Conservatives would probably do the same
c. Good

Please enlighten me where someone other than QW and myself have said it's wrong; and it would be wrong if it were the other way.

And while everyone is focusing on the hiring question, it also mentions discrimination regarding research done by their OWN CONSERVATIVE COLLEAGUES. These are people they work with. Disgraceful.

Have you read the actual study?

 

[NYcarbineer]

What makes it a propaganda piece?

I already explained that. Reread my posts.

Are you a racist or not?

You think it is a propaganda piece because you don't like the conclusion, and think that they should emphasize the people who lied.

Fine, at least 60% of college professors are willing to lie about how they discriminate against people they do not like, is that a better title?

Your assumption that the 60% of the professors who said they wouldn't discriminate are lying allows us to logically conclude, by your reasoning,

that all conservatives are lying when they claim they aren't racist.

Are you a racist?

 

[chanel]

Chanel, your conclusion is silly because it is not true based on the postings here. Try again.

Silly? I've read this thread though again. The lib rebuttals have been:

a. It's not a credible study
b. Conservatives would probably do the same
c. Good

Please enlighten me where someone other than QW and myself have said it's wrong; and it would be wrong if it were the other way.

And while everyone is focusing on the hiring question, it also mentions discrimination regarding research done by their OWN CONSERVATIVE COLLEAGUES. These are people they work with. Disgraceful.

Have you read the actual study?

Nope. It hasn't been published yet. But even if I had, I would be in no position to say if it was credible or not. I don't pretend to be an expert in statistics.

What I am an expert in is common sense. And these results make sense to me.

Should students be presented with diverse points of view? Should colleges encourage hiring of minorities? Should conservative professors and students stay in the closet?

 

[copsnrobbers]

Hey what's a liberal........ Jealous bastards that want shit for free. They don't care about the agenda or understand it for that matter. They sure are useful idiots.