Letter in support of Judge Dugan signed by over 150 former state and federal judges.

[AZrailwhale]

Wrong.
Immigration regulations are not over "criminal acts".
A criminal act gains its severity from the harm it does to others.
But immigration violations harm no one else, so are "regulatory infractions, and NOT crimes.

And the whole point is that the suspect was showing up for court on a real criminal proceeding, so then it was illegal for ICE to interfere and prevent the court from finishing their ruling.

And again, ICE is not supposed to use court appearances.

{...

Protected Areas and Courthouse Arrests​

DHS Directive​

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) issued a directive — Enforcement Actions in or Near Protected Areas — on Jan. 20, 2025, for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), superseding and rescinding DHS’s Oct. 27, 2021, memorandum of the same title, which determined that certain locations require special protection from enforcement of U.S. immigration laws.

The Jan. 20, 2025, DHS Enforcement Actions in or Near Protected Areas directive recognizes that “officers frequently apply enforcement discretion to balance a variety of interests, including the degree to which any law enforcement action occurs in a sensitive location. Going forward, law enforcement officers should continue to use that discretion along with a healthy dose of common sense.”

ICE Directive​

On Jan. 21, 2025, ICE issued interim guidance, Enforcement Actions in or Near Protected Areas. Under this interim guidance, ICE officers or agents may conduct civil immigration enforcement actions in or near courthouses when they have credible information that leads them to believe the targeted alien(s) is or will be present at a specific location, and where such action is not precluded by laws imposed by the jurisdiction in which the civil immigration enforcement action will take place.

ICE officers or agents must coordinate with the relevant local ICE Office of the Principal Legal Advisor (OPLA) office before conducting civil immigration enforcement actions in or near courthouses to determine whether jurisdiction-specific legal limitations apply.

Civil immigration enforcement actions in or near courthouses should, to the extent practicable, continue to take place in non-public areas of the courthouse, be conducted in collaboration with court security staff, and use the court building’s non-public entrances and exits.

When practicable, ICE officers and agents will conduct civil immigration enforcement actions against targeted aliens discreetly to minimize their impact on court proceedings.

ICE officers and agents should generally avoid enforcement actions in or near courthouses, or areas within courthouses that are wholly dedicated to non-criminal proceedings — examples include family court and small claims courts. When an enforcement action in the above situations is operationally necessary, the approval of the respective Field Office Director, Special Agent in Charge, or his or her designee is required prior to conducting the enforcement action.

The guidance also outlines responsibilities of the Field Office Director and the Special Agent in Charge.

For purposes of the ICE Interim Guidance: Civil Immigration Enforcement Actions in or Near Courthouses, a civil immigration enforcement action is any action taken by an ICE officer or agent to apprehend, arrest, interview, or search an alien in connection with enforcement of administrative immigration violations. This policy does not apply to criminal immigration enforcement inside courthouses.
...}

Your own cite blows your complaint out of the water.

 

[Rigby5]

Your own cite blows your complaint out of the water.

Wrong.
The cite says, "ICE officers and agents should generally avoid enforcement actions in or near courthouses".

ICE arrests over minor regulatory infractions would prevent and interfere with the serious legal function of the courthouse.

 

[Rigby5]

**** the judge, **** the illegal alien and **** the whiners.

There is never an excuse for ICE to arrest in a court house.
If ICE arrest someone in a courthouse, then they would illegally be preventing that person from being able to show up for their next appearance, so then be in violation of the law.
The ICE agents involved then should be arrested for interfering with the court case.

 

[Rigby5]

They weren’t going to arrest him at his court appearance, but after, in a public space. Perfectly legal and appropriate. Illegals should be arrested every time they come to the attention of the authorities.

Wrong.
It is illegal to abuse the courthouse to arrest by ICE for a simple immigration regulatory infraction.
How is the person going to show up for his next appearance if ICE has him in custody?
The law specifically bars ICE from courthouse arrests.

 

[Rigby5]

The motion to dismiss was also denied.

Stuff that in your ham sammich and eat it.

The charges should have been dismissed, but all judges now are under an illegal threat of extortion.

 

[Rigby5]

**** the judge, **** the illegal alien and **** the whiners.

Your only claim to citizenship is by birthright.
So if Trump gets his way, you will also be deported.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There is never an excuse for ICE to arrest in a court house.
If ICE arrest someone in a courthouse, then they would illegally be preventing that person from being able to show up for their next appearance, so then be in violation of the law.
The ICE agents involved then should be arrested for interfering with the court case.

If ICE arrest someone in a courthouse,

They need to arrest a lot more as they walk out of the courtroom.

then they would illegally be preventing that person from being able to show up for their next appearance, so then be in violation of the law.

They're excused from their next appearance when ICE deports them.

The ICE agents involved then should be arrested for interfering with the court case.

The agents are much too busy deporting illegal aliens to take the time to get arrested.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Wrong.
It is illegal to abuse the courthouse to arrest by ICE for a simple immigration regulatory infraction.
How is the person going to show up for his next appearance if ICE has him in custody?
The law specifically bars ICE from courthouse arrests.

It is illegal to abuse the courthouse to arrest by ICE for a simple immigration regulatory infraction.

When they get back to their home country, they should definitely complain about that.

The law specifically bars ICE from courthouse arrests.

Still waiting for you to post that law.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The charges should have been dismissed, but all judges now are under an illegal threat of extortion.

It's awful, making judges obey the law. DURR

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Your only claim to citizenship is by birthright.
So if Trump gets his way, you will also be deported.

Your only claim to citizenship is by birthright.

What other claim is there?

So if Trump gets his way, you will also be deported.

I'll bet you $100 he won't deport me.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Wrong.
It is illegal to abuse the courthouse to arrest by ICE for a simple immigration regulatory infraction.
How is the person going to show up for his next appearance if ICE has him in custody?
The law specifically bars ICE from courthouse arrests.

No it doesn't. The procedure that YOU posted makes it clear that ICE can detain illegals in courthouses IF NECESSARY.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Wrong.
It is illegal to abuse the courthouse to arrest by ICE for a simple immigration regulatory infraction.
How is the person going to show up for his next appearance if ICE has him in custody?
The law specifically bars ICE from courthouse arrests.

Read your own cite, you are wrong.

 

[Montrovant]

I am unaware of what or how the nature of the warrant would affect the need to effect an arrest.

It would not. It would only change where the ICE officers had authority to make said arrest.

 

[Nostra]

150 out of tens of thousands.

 

[DonGlock26]

https://www.npr.org/2025/05/17/g-s1-67288/wisconsin-judge-hannah-dugan-immigrant-ice-case-boston-shelley-joseph

Similar case in Mass.

 

[AZrailwhale]

https://www.npr.org/2025/05/17/g-s1-67288/wisconsin-judge-hannah-dugan-immigrant-ice-case-boston-shelley-joseph

Similar case in Mass.

Judges have the right to run things within the boundaries of their courtroom only in compliance with the law. Judges don’t have the right to break the law, judges have been prosecuted many times in the past for corruption and illegal actions within the boundaries of their courtrooms. Judges aren’t royalty above the law. In fact they not only have to obey it like everyone else but maintain the highest ethical standards of compliance with the law so as not to even have the appearance of violating the law.

 

[Nostra]

Tens of thousands of former state and federal judges do not sign letter supporting Terrorist collaborator DUGAN.

 

[GWV5903]

It's not so much the legality of what Dugan did that's at issue in the letter.

Clearly, the letter is irrelevant, she broke the law!

It's the way the regime conducted itself by the method of arresting her.

So letting Flores - Ruiz and his attorney exit through a jury door or better yet telling agents their warrant was insufficient?
Sounds like she helped him escape, she deserves what she is getting.

 

[Montrovant]

Clearly, the letter is irrelevant, she broke the law!

So letting Flores - Ruiz and his attorney exit through a jury door or better yet telling agents their warrant was insufficient?
Sounds like she helped him escape, she deserves what she is getting.

From what I've read, the jury door still led to a public hallway where at least one ICE agent was. There was enough evidence for a grand jury to indict her, but we'll see where trial leads (assuming it gets to that point). I wonder if the charge under 18 U.S.C. Section 1505 will hold up, as that supposedly was created in regards to business monopolies. 18 U.S. Code § 1071 seems more likely to stick.

Regardless of the merits of the case, I think one of the things that has some people upset is that the judge was arrested and cuffed by the FBI at the courthouse. Normal procedure would have been to have her notified and turn herself in, as happened in the case of Judge Shelley Joseph. Kash Patel's post about the arrest is also a bad look, and apparently went against FBI protocol. So, even if the judge is guilty, the way the case has been handled by law enforcement/the administration is being seen as poorly done.

No one involved in this looks good.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

From what I've read, the jury door still led to a public hallway where at least one ICE agent was. There was enough evidence for a grand jury to indict her, but we'll see where trial leads (assuming it gets to that point). I wonder if the charge under 18 U.S.C. Section 1505 will hold up, as that supposedly was created in regards to business monopolies. 18 U.S. Code § 1071 seems more likely to stick.

Regardless of the merits of the case, I think one of the things that has some people upset is that the judge was arrested and cuffed by the FBI at the courthouse. Normal procedure would have been to have her notified and turn herself in, as happened in the case of Judge Shelley Joseph. Kash Patel's post about the arrest is also a bad look, and apparently went against FBI protocol. So, even if the judge is guilty, the way the case has been handled by law enforcement/the administration is being seen as poorly done.

No one involved in this looks good.

Least of all the criminal judge.