Let's stop being stupid... Kimmel's bosses were glad to have the excuse

[justoffal]

I guess you don't get out much.

That's not an accident

 

[Foxfyre]

I guess you don't get out much.

I guess you don't get out much.

Or far more likely, justoffal actually looks at what's happening and doesn't evaluate it through a totally irrational and often dishonest, whether intentionally or not, TDS perspective?

 

[JoeB131]

blablablablablablablablablablabla

Barr said something you don't like, Kimmel said something you do like.

That's the sum and end of it....You have no intellectual honesty or moral compass whatsoever.

No, Barr said something that was truly vile.

Kimmel said something that was more truth than Cheeto Hitler could handle.

 

[22lcidw]

Yeah, the FCC is censoring speech they don't like, and big corporations are censoring people with unpopular opinions.

I can't possibly see where this can go wrong.

Or perhaps they are censoring free speech the other side does not have access to.

 

[Oddball]

No, Barr said something that was truly vile.

Kimmel said something that was more truth than Cheeto Hitler could handle.

No, you have double standards, just like every other neo-Marxist.

 

[justoffal]

Then why are they negotiating a return?

Maybe this whole thing was about negotiations in the first place?

 

[JoeB131]

No, you have double standards, just like every other neo-Marxist.

No double standard at all. Barr made racist comments. Kimmell pointed out the political abuse of this tragedy.

Not even close to the same thing.

 

[JoeB131]

Maybe this whole thing was about negotiations in the first place?

Naw, I doubt it. This is about not wanting to upset Cheeto Hitler. Kimmell is going to get paid for the balance of his contract regardless.

The only question for ABC is do they just put reruns in that slot of some show we've already seen, where they won't be able to charge the same ad rates, and will just lose that audience to Fallon.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Another stupid part of this is that the very Democrats and "not Democrats" on here who are angry that Kimmel was taken off the air would be screaming for an immediate firing if ABC had given that slot to a MAGA comedian who came on every night to bash Biden.

 

[TimFitz]

That crossed my mind as a strong possibility too and I have posted that theory elsewhere. Jimmy Kimmel was among the highest, if not the highest paid late night talk show host pulling down roughly $15 million/year.

Considering that and really poor ratings that seriously reduced advertising income and that a lot of advertisers were/would likely be offended by Kimmel's remarks, those remarks gave them the perfect excuse to shut him down.

It's hard to believe ABC would be so quickly intimidated by an unrealized 'threat' by the FCC chair. At the same time I am struggling with whether Kimmel's offensive remarks were sufficiently in violation of FCC rules to warrant a suggested threat much moreso discipline by the FCC. But that would be subject of a separate debate.

If you find it hard to believe that ABC would be “so quickly intimidated”, you don’t know much about the history of broadcasting.

 

[Foxfyre]

If you find it hard to believe that ABC would be “so quickly intimidated”, you don’t know much about the history of broadcasting.

I know a great deal about the history of broadcasting. It was a required component of our journalism curriculum in college as well as the legal aspects of it. And I've kept up since.

I stand by my post.

 

[justoffal]

Naw, I doubt it. This is about not wanting to upset Cheeto Hitler. Kimmell is going to get paid for the balance of his contract regardless.

The only question for ABC is do they just put reruns in that slot of some show we've already seen, where they won't be able to charge the same ad rates, and will just lose that audience to Fallon.

Considering that Fallon's audience is probably pure left wing I'm not sure what they will gain or lose either way. Fallon's ratings are in lethal decline with the key marketing demographic. There is no doubt in my mind that this was an opportunity for them to replace that loss with something that will relate more to that audience.

That won't happen if they put him back on.
First of all he is a one trick pony...if he tried a different schtick it would only flop.... His act is chiseled into the public consciousness.... He can't escape it.

Finally I think that the other factor is that Television watching is also in general decline.
I haven't watched it myself quite literally for years. I know many who are in the same pattern.

But I will stop short of making any predictions except for one. Money will be the deciding factor.

 

[TimFitz]

I know a great deal about the history of broadcasting. It was a required component of our journalism curriculum in college as well as the legal aspects of it. And I've kept up since.

I stand by my post.

Then you know that the big radio and television networks were in fear of the power the FCC has. Even if they rarely had to exercise that power.

Before Trump’s loutish heavy handed stunt, matters were settled quietly, often with a phone call.

 

[Foxfyre]

Then you know that the big radio and television networks were in fear of the power the FCC has. Even if they rarely had to exercise that power.

Before Trump’s loutish heavy handed stunt, matters were settled quietly, often with a phone call.

Depends want you mean by 'in fear of.' Every television station, every network had a legal team evaluating programming content to make sure it didn't violate the code for what is decent, what language and content is allowed, and what isn't. They still do though the rules are far more lax than they were in the previous century.

I watched an interview with Darren McGavin sometime before he passed probably 20+++ years ago. The fake cursing when he was dealing with the furnace in "A Christmas Story" was not written out in the script and he improvised. When the movie was to be first shown on television, he said the network watchdogs listened to that over and over to be sure there were no actual disallowed curse words in it.

You'll have to be specific re what President Trump's 'heavy handed stunt' actually was to convince me it was that. So far I've only seen how the left has dishonestly twisted it into something it never was and was never intended to be.

I think the OP is probably closer to the truth than most we've seen put out there so far, i.e. ABC welcomed a reason to put Kimmel out to pasture.

 

[JoeB131]

Considering that Fallon's audience is probably pure left wing I'm not sure what they will gain or lose either way. Fallon's ratings are in lethal decline with the key marketing demographic. There is no doubt in my mind that this was an opportunity for them to replace that loss with something that will relate more to that audience.

That won't happen if they put him back on.
First of all he is a one trick pony...if he tried a different schtick it would only flop.... His act is chiseled into the public consciousness.... He can't escape it.

Finally I think that the other factor is that Television watching is also in general decline.
I haven't watched it myself quite literally for years. I know many who are in the same pattern.

But I will stop short of making any predictions except for one. Money will be the deciding factor.

Disney pisses away 180 Million on a streaming show about Lesbian Space Witches.

I doubt the claims that these shows are money losers.

At least ABC is being honest that they are doing this to appease Cheeto Hitler.

Why they are appeasing a president with a 39% approval rating and dropping is a mystery.

 

[JoeB131]

You'll have to be specific re what President Trump's 'heavy handed stunt' actually was to convince me it was that. So far I've only seen how the left has dishonestly twisted it into something it never was and was never intended to be.

Yes, Foxy, we all know you are drinking the bleach.

I think the OP is probably closer to the truth than most we've seen put out there so far, i.e. ABC welcomed a reason to put Kimmel out to pasture.

Naw, ABC are a bunch of spineless cowards.

They should be playing the Horst Wessel Leid behind every Trump speech so everyone gets the idea of what's going on.

 

[justoffal]

Disney pisses away 180 Million on a streaming show about Lesbian Space Witches.

I doubt the claims that these shows are money losers.

At least ABC is being honest that they are doing this to appease Cheeto Hitler.

Why they are appeasing a president with a 39% approval rating and dropping is a mystery.


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Probably because they have almost 3 billion dollars tied up in a merger proposal.

 

[justoffal]

Yes, Foxy, we all know you are drinking the bleach.



Naw, ABC are a bunch of spineless cowards.

They should be playing the Horst Wessel Leid behind every Trump speech so everyone gets the idea of what's going on.

Spineless cowards? I think it's more easily redefined as corporate vultures. Lol

 

[JoeB131]

Probably because they have almost 3 billion dollars tied up in a merger proposal.

That's a different issue. Their merger should not focus on whether or not they appease Cheeto Hitler or not.

I personally think all these media mergers are a bad thing, if all our media comes from four corporations (Disney, Skydance, Comcast, Fox), then we aren't going to get diversity of opinion, are we? Particularly when they are lazy and just crib off each other.

It used to be that networks operated their news divisions at a loss, because they were a public service. Today, the news is expected to be "entertaining", which means instead of having correspondents reporting on stories, we have talking heads talking about them.

Instead of knuckling under to Trump, these companies should be doubling down. But they are taking the path of least resistance.

 

[JoeB131]

Spineless cowards? I think it's more easily redefined as corporate vultures. Lol

Nope, they are cowards if they knuckle under to a wannabe dictator because they don't want regulatory problems.