Let's have a conversation

[Edgetho]

For those on the left who insist on having a 'conversation' about hot-button issues--remember that's all Charlie Kirk wanted to do.

"Let's have a conversation."

Charlie Kirk wanted to 'have a conversation,' and he got shot dead for it. Is it a conversation you want, or something else? Say, maybe, total capitulation to your own views of the world?

Think about that for a minute. Please.

dimocraps are no longer worth talking to. They are poison. Diseased.

Not only do we have dimocraps in here making excuses and rationalizing the assassination of Charlie Kirk, they are still calling him names and accusing him of being a "Nazi" or a "Fascist" or a homophobe.

The time for talking to dimocrap scum is gone. It is over. It is time we started crushing them by whatever means are necessary. Hopefully non-violent but -- Whatever it takes.

Oh, and the voters? They're the worst of them all. They enable people like Tyler Robinson, they quote scum like Whoopi Goldfarb, they watch the DISGUSTING FILTH and believe every lie they tell.

dimocrap FILTH are beyond redemption. I no longer have any desire to talk to them. At all.

Don't bother. All you'll get is lies. It's all they know how to do. That, and murder.

 

[Chuz Life]

Ignore them at your own peril. You give them ammunition, such as "they don't want unity, they want capitulation!" and such. You have to disprove their lies at every turn, anticipate their lies, and rebut their lies. Don't give them any proverbial quarter to make you out as the villain.

We (right leaning) are the villains in their view, simply by not sharing their views, and obviously, they think we see them that same way.

As if we (most of us) don't have gay family members who we love, family members who have aborted, care about or know someone who is undocumented, etc.

They (my opponents for the most part) don't ******* care. To them, it is not open for debate or discussion.

 

[Edgetho]

Ignore them at your own peril. You give them ammunition, such as "they don't want unity, they want capitulation!" and such. You have to disprove their lies at every turn, anticipate their lies, and rebut their lies. Don't give them any proverbial quarter to make you out as the villain.

I don't have to disprove or rebut anything. dimocraps are the scum of the Earth. They've proven it time and again.

"Villain"?? How about their Nightmare?

People like you mean well, but when it comes down to it -- You really are the problem.

You talk and hold hands, singing Kumbaya while dimocrap FILTH are out there MURDERING people.

Some people might call you a coward. Not saying I would, saying that some would.

dimocraps are ******* evil. Even God hates evil. And God loves everything.

Except evil. And dimocrap scum are EVIL. Period.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I don't have to disprove or rebut anything.

That's totally up to you. I'm not making you do a thing, my friend.

 

[TemplarKormac]

If you are not what they accuse you of or label you as, don't do what they accuse you of, don't be what they label you. Corner them with their own flawed logic. I've been doing that here for almost 13 years now.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I can't possibly see myself being the same villain to them as they were to me. It's hypocritical, obviously, but what goal would that accomplish, other than deepening the already colossal divide?

 

[Correll]

Yeah, really good stuff.

Thanks.

 

[SeaMajor7]

The time for talking with this particular opponent is OVER.
The demented LEFT are completely INSANE.
They have devolved into a death cult at this point.
Just look at the fact that there's going to be a protest in support of Luigi Mangioni outside of a court he's appearing at in Manhattan today.
The guy that MURDERED a health care company CEO IN THE BACK has support from these people.
These people CELEBRATED the MURDER of Charlie Kirk.
They support soft on criminals cashless bail and prosecutors that DON'T PROSECUTE DANGEROUS PEOPLE. A war refugee paid the price of HER LIFE on public transportation for the TOXIC EMPATHY of these government officials.
How do you reason with these subverted demoralized Marxist zombies?
It's USELESS.

 

[Chuz Life]

Corner them with their own flawed logic. I've been doing that here for almost 13 years now.

Not to offend but how many have changed any of their views as a result?

How much time and energy did it take?

I digress.

I'll go back to popcorn duties.

 

[Edgetho]

That's totally up to you. I'm not making you do a thing, my friend.

You suggested it, did you not?

Words mean things. You can't Unsee something. Once you read it, you can't Unread it. Placing a thought in someone's mind is not coercion but it IS suggestion.

Just like dimocrap FILTH calling Charlie a Nazi and a Fascist puts suggestion in the minds of everybody. In my mind, it suggest the people (I use the word lightly) doing it are scumbags but in the mind of a weakling, a coward, a deviant, an outcast, a Hater (IOW, a dimocrap)..... Words matter.

We THINK with words. We make Plans with WORDS, we take action based on words. Suggestions.

Words matter. I don't want to talk with dimocrap FILTH. I want to eradicate them from the Planet Surface. Non-Violently, of course. I want the filthy party gone. I want the dimocrap scum party outlawed just like its Parent Party the National Socialist German Workers party.

They are one and the same.

 

[Edgetho]

If you are not what they accuse you of or label you as, don't do what they accuse you of, don't be what they label you. Corner them with their own flawed logic. I've been doing that here for almost 13 years now.

And failing

 

[TemplarKormac]

Not to offend but how many have changed any of their views as a result?

I have no idea. I'm sure throngs of them have, but they are afraid of their own party turning on them. Some want to change, but are afraid to come out and show it. That's why I refrain from broadbrushing them. It leaves no place for those who have changed their views to seek a safe haven.

 

[TemplarKormac]

And failing

If you say so, mate.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Words matter.

Yes, they do, hence why I don't favor the arbitrary approach like I used to. My wrath is still the same, but I have learned to temper it.

 

[Chuz Life]

You suggested it, did you not?

Words mean things. You can't Unsee something. Once you read it, you can't Unread it. Placing a thought in someone's mind is not coercion but it IS suggestion.

Just like dimocrap FILTH calling Charlie a Nazi and a Fascist puts suggestion in the minds of everybody. In my mind, it suggest the people (I use the word lightly) doing it are scumbags but in the mind of a weakling, a coward, a deviant, an outcast, a Hater (IOW, a dimocrap)..... Words matter.

We THINK with words. We make Plans with WORDS, we take action based on words. Suggestions.

Words matter. I don't want to talk with dimocrap FILTH. I want to eradicate them from the Planet Surface. Non-Violently, of course. I want the filthy party gone. I want the dimocrap scum party outlawed just like its Parent Party the National Socialist German Workers party.

They are one and the same.

I think the OP is the one who wants to engage in a conversation. Even as he has no expectation that you, I or anyone else will.

Popcorn?

 

[TemplarKormac]

You suggested it, did you not?

There is a difference between a suggestion and a command, Edgetho.

 

[BULLDOG]

No. Rejected. The time for "conversation" is over. And I DO NOT, and would never, mean that in a violent way. I mean, they only want a "conversation" now because they know they have been utterly crushed.

We wanted to talk years ago and they called us racist, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic and every other name you can imagine. They hate their own game NOW? Aw

But you are racist, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic and every other name you can imagine.

 

[Chuz Life]

I have no idea. I'm sure throngs of them have, but they are afraid of their own party turning on them. Some want to change, but are afraid to come out and show it. That's why I refrain from broadbrushing them. It leaves no place for those who have changed their views to seek a safe haven.

LoL! Throngs!

Love it.

 

[TemplarKormac]

LoL! Throngs!

Love it.

My vocabulary is deep. It penetrates very deeply.

 

[Dante]

I've watched several videos of Kirk's "conversations" over the last few days.

They are the standard "I'm 100% right, you're 100% wrong" crap coming from both him and the liberal.

That's a debate, not a conversation. Nothing constructive is created in debates like that. No common ground or new ideas come from that. Kirk was just another hardcore partisan ideologue. Both ends have plenty of them.

Kirk didn't debate people. Not in the sense that people like say - Christopher Hitchens did. He baited people and played to the audience. Not the audience at the vents so much as to the audience he knew was "out there" on Youtube.

Example?
27:50 questions

Charlie is asked a question and right out of the gate he starts acting like a Cable tv host, attacking the questioner. Not sure why he didn't just answer with an explanation. He mentions "Joe Biden's America" as if a group in England is up on all the petty battles in American politics. He's playing to the camera. He knows his people will see it and the Biden reference is pure Maga bait.

I have quite a simple question for you now. I know you've debated Dean Withers on Jubilee before. I was wondering why you now refuse to engage with further debate with him.

Wait, wait, hold on. First of all, he's coming on my show this summer. And let me get this straight. I flew 5,000 miles across the world to have you ask why I'm not going to debate a left-wing YouTuber.

Well, I mean, he continuously tries to get your attention at your campus.

Yeah.

And you just ignore him.

I've debated him twice in the last calendar year. He's coming on my show this summer. Let me be clear. I came to Cambridge to have you ask me that.

I mean, you talk about freedom. I'm just using my freedom of speech to ask you a simple question. You seem to be dodging it for some reason.

No, I've I've debated him twice in the last year and he's coming on this summer for a long form discussion. But is is this what I can expect?

Yeah, he's making videos about you avoiding him on your campus debates.

Right. So, let me let me tell you how this works. I do a campus event like a Texas A&M University. I rent it out. I'm there for 3 hours. He shows up demanding to come up to the mic immediately cutting in line of other students. It's not Joe Biden's America anymore. or we can just cut in line and get whatever you want. So therefore, I say, "Excuse me, Dean. We'll talk at another time." He makes this YouTube video as if I'm scared to debate him even though I debated him twice in the last year. Does that sufficiently answer your question?

Yes, it does. Thank you very much. Thank you.

and of course, even in the comments section people hear what they want and spin narratives that ignore some things.

But as I've long said: Charlie Kirk was no true debater. He was a provocateur and a bully boy of the right, and Maga Loudmouth