The gop shut down the govt. The gop lost, and that's why Boehner is trying to pass a clean debt resolution.
Cruz led you guys down the primrose path by trying to PREVENT obamacare from beginning, when in reality the gop needs to get out of the way of the trainwreck.
But, the gop's problem is that Americans will want SOMETHING. It may not be Obamacare, but there's not going back all the way.
Hi bendog:
to avoid a shutdown GOP leaders in Congress pulled together an agreement that
required only TWO points to be changed on the ACA funding, which were generally
agreed upon by members of BOTH parties. it was obstruction by Obama and Democrats
who refused to accept these terms, in order to shut down govt and blame Republicans:
(a) removing the tax on medical devices that was generally opposed by BOTH parties because it had a detrimental effect of burdening companies trying to provide medical services, so this was bipartisan agreement to ax that condition especially during economic recovery (b) delay the individual mandate for one year, which again was generally supported since Obama delayed the EMPLOYER mandate for one year, so why not with the individual mandate until this was worked out
When I first heard that Congressional leaders had worked out this plan to pass the budget with just these two sticking points that everyone I talked with AGREED needed to be removed ANYWAY, I was very hopeful. I even posted a petition pushing Congressional reps to accept these two points, delay the individual mandate and pass the budget to prevent the shutdown.
for Republicans to reach this agreement took a LOT of work. So this was good news!
These two points took a lot of work to negotiate. I talked with a lot of opponents to ACA who wanted to cut ACA altogether and were resistant to stick to just these two points which people on all sides agreed were the main problems they generally agreed to remove
the GOP DID WORK through the TOUGHEST objections from party members who wanted 100% repeal and refused to budge otherwise, and DID get their party members in Congress to AGREE to just these two points to prevent a govt shutdown. Most ppl agreed.
But it was Obama who refused to sign anything that had any changes at all to ACA.
He was determined to play hardball because he didn't want to give any room to others.
it was a political play for power. He is still trying to use ACA like a weapon to prove his dominance because he is not seen as a promilitary leader and uses this as a political front.
So he insists that he alone can unilateral alter federal laws, to overextend executive powers to unilaterally amend legislation so he can change the ACA but not Congress? WTF?
This is as twisted as writing, passing pushing and interpreting ACA as "not a tax" to get it through Congress, then changing it to argue, push and interpret "as a tax" to get it through the Supreme Court. It was not written and passed through the proper Constitutional procedures as a tax/revenue bill, yet the Supreme Court "interpreted" it that way.
Similar to how slaves were human, but "interpreted" to be 3/5 human and 2/5 property?
This was legally established, that slaves were property as interpreted and enforced by law, but was contradictory! So is a bill written and passed as "not being a tax" so it would get past Congress; then re-defined as a tax so it can be interpreted that way by Court!
What gets me, is the last serious teacher I ever had who taught me the history and spirit of Constitutional laws, separation of powers and checks and balances was my eighth grade history teacher. He taught where they came from, from traditions from the first written laws down through the European political writings on natural laws and rights, etc.
Don't tell me that I have a better understanding of Constitutional law and due process
than the President of the United States who went to Harvard Law School?
It seems the only thing people learn these days is POLITICS.
How to bully and play hardball to punish people into submission, even at the cost
of taxpayers and the equal representation and interests of the American people.
Only counting the views of ONE PARTY as law, while the others don't count as long as you can abuse majority rule and political tradeoffs to win votes to overrule them.
What happened to Fourteenth Amendment rights to equal protection of the laws
from discrimination by creed? This is clearly partisan and against the Code of Ethics
for Government Service.
Unbelievable that someone with no more education in history and Constitutional law than 8th grade gets what is wrong with this picture; and someone with a law degree from Harvard thinks that as long as you hold office and have majority votes you can pass whatever you want and it becomes law until something stops you or proven otherwise.
The President and co-conspirators with the Democrat advocates for ACA are clearly in violation of oath of office and duty to uphold Constitutional regulations as also stated in the Code of Ethics for Government Service. This is "eighth grade" level reading material.
They must not teach this at Harvard Law School. Maybe we should start suing law schools for negligence in giving law degrees to such, like policing manufacturers who put guns in the hands of criminals.
