Let's Face It....Regardless Whom Is At Fault....Blacks Have Set Back Race-relations At Least 30 years

[petro]

Remember No black mother should have to fear for her son's life every time he commits a crime

What an incredibly stupid statement. Makes the criminals the victims and completely ignored the real victims of those crimes.

No black mother should allow her son to show utter contempt for the rights of society and authority in general.

 

[danielpalos]

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Interesting that in your view blacks have zero responsibility for any problems that exist in their relationship with police.

You people just can't stop lying. It's all you know.

This is why I no longer bother.

Be specific versus name calling. What is Black America's responsibility in all of this?

Other than successfully making violent criminals like George Floyd the supposed triggers for the riots? (this alone will forever keep black people associated with the riots)
They were stupid enough to jump in and loot and burn and extort looking for free chit, which allowed the communist anti-fa to seize power and prolong this even further...

right or wrong----I have to tell you, that many whites will see a group of black people standing on a corner and assume the worse-------and that racist groups will be growing and attacking blacks.

It isn't about fair as much as fear now---

I sincerely hope you are wrong.

So do I, but human nature is human nature....

 

[mudwhistle]

What is Black America's responsibility in all of this?

Not holding its own accountable. Just like the Right.

Worse are the white liberals who have been enabling the worst behaviors of minorities for decades via PC and Identity Politics.

I've only said that about a thousand times over the years here, but you guys never seem to notice that.

The fact that so-called liberals are white isn't the issue.
They're this way because they're brainwashed.
Blacks are the way they are because they're brainwashed.
The difference being that white liberals aren't acting like assholes because of white privilege.
Black assholes are however acting like this because of black privilege.

 

[mudwhistle]

After months of watching blacks break into businesses and commit violence day in and day out, America is waking up to the fact that the real systemic racism in this country seem to be blacks themselves.

I'd say 30 years is a safe, conservative estimate, Mud. I was actually initially sympathetic and appalled when the Floyd thing first happened, then I got to see what really happened and got all the facts. I'm of a mind now that few of these cops if any have done anything seriously wrong and a few at worst deserve a slap on the wrist. All these police who BUST THEIR ASS keeping us safe have been thrown to the wolves by the democrats purely for political expediency and it has blown up in their face.

After seeing that teacher marching with BLM damning the police, I'm of a mind that when it comes time to pay my school taxes, that I put a condition on the memo line that in cashing my check, they agree to not support or promote BLM in any way and will fire any staff publicly doing so otherwise a full refund is in order.

• Police officers that have had too many incident reports on their record need to either be transferred to records or retired. Anyone who has to deal with criminals on a regular basis tend to develop a low opinion of the public.
• Teachers that are caught participating in violent riots or are arrested should be terminated. They have no business teaching our children.
• Cops deserve our support....and any politician that calls for their defunding or encourages violence against them should be either brought up on charges or recalled immediately.
• The FBI should and is investigating the training and funding of BLM & ANTIFA...the perps arrested and charged with supporting terrorism....no matter who is discovered to be involved...including ex-presidents and ex-Secretary of States.
• The media needs to be held accountable for encouraging violence by filing criminal charges and lawsuits for civil liability.

Imagine how quickly all of these riots would end if the above was happening all over the country.

 

[Unkotare]

To blacks this is a war. .....

Is that what they told you at the "What Every Black Person in America Thinks" meeting?

 

[IM2]

I'm with you OP...but maybe more than 30 years.

It is amazing how such a systemic criminal group as blacks is being promoted like they are as peaceful and wonderful a group of humans as possible.

Black males are 6.3% of the population and do 52.5% of the murder, 62% of the robbery and 56% of the carjacking in the USA.

Stats from: National Crime Victimization Survey / Wikipedia

Sure the dems latched onto the blacks agenda. But the black supremists are trying to destroy America irrespective of the filthy dems. They will not be satisfied until blacks run all of America. And I'm not making that up.

Below is a short audio on multicultural congregations from NPR. It discusses what white supremacy means to a black person.

Multiracial Congregations May Not Bridge Racial Divide

The number of multiracial churches is growing in the United States, but the leaders of color who work in them still see attitudes of white supremacy.

www.npr.org

If you don't want to listen to audio, this quote from the story sums up a black's view of white supremacy.

"I came to a point where I realized that, you know, these multiracial churches, just because they're multiracial, doesn't mean they have somehow escaped white supremacy," she says. "Being diverse doesn't mean that white people are not going to still be in charge and run things."

I lived with blacks for 35 years bordering So.L.A. I was under constant racial attack from blacks starting from age 8 or 9. I was almost killed a few times when I was shot at on the Santa Monica Fwy. Another time they tried to run me off the road on my M/C. It is just a game with blacks...polar bear hunting. Blacks are as racist as they come.

Knockout game - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

We are headed for a race war. Or the whites will knuckle under and be ruled by a small group of criminal blacks. The few blacks I see now after moving out of L.A. all have hate in their eyes whenever I look at them. I have no doubt they would kill me if they thought they would not get caught.

The twisting of numbers by a racist. Let's look at reality.

There are 30 categories of crimes listed in the UCR. Murder is one category. In 2018, out of the 30 categories of crime, whites led in 27. Whites are approximately 70 percent of the population and led in 90 percent of the crime categories. Less than 1/2 of 1 percent of the deaths in America were murders. There were a total of 8957 murders in all races in 2018. There were over 12,000 arrest for rapes by whites in 2018 alone. Blacks had less than half that with 5,376. So we have whites here arguing an apparent racist argument. “What about white on white crime?”

Blacks are not responsible for 50 percent of crime in America. 14 percent of no race in this country is responsible for crime. Numbers represent people and by arrests, 2.5 percent of the American population were white and arrested for crimes in 2018. That 2.5 percent of the population made up 60 percent of the arrests for violent crime. Less than 1 percent of the of the American population was black and arrested for crimes in 2018. So whites made up more than double the arrests and that 2.5 percent of the American population made up nearly 70 percent of all arrests for crime.

 

[IM2]

What is Black America's responsibility in all of this?

Not holding its own accountable. Just like the Right.

Worse are the white liberals who have been enabling the worst behaviors of minorities for decades via PC and Identity Politics.

I've only said that about a thousand times over the years here, but you guys never seem to notice that.

The fact that so-called liberals are white isn't the issue.
They're this way because they're brainwashed.
Blacks are the way they are because they're brainwashed.
The difference being that white liberals aren't acting like assholes because of white privilege.
Black assholes are however acting like this because of black privilege.

Nobody is brainwashed but white right wing racists such as you. There is no black privilege.

 

[Polishprince]

Nobody is brainwashed but white right wing racists such as you. There is no black privilege.

A lot of people would disagree with you. Black Studies professor Jessica Krug felt that a black identity would give her credibility as a scholar and an expert. She didn't think that the libs at GWU would give her tremendous knowledge in this discipline any respect if she identified as the honky she actually is.

But the facts are clear, no complaints about Krug being uninformed or a crappy professor when they all thought she was a black chick. It gave her credibility, when the reality is that there is no reason why someone would have to be black to teach black studies.

 

[ninja007]

pretty telling ALL RICH black stars or athletes move to white rich neighborhoods. Gated, security etc. Hypocrites.

 

[mudwhistle]

This could be true for many, but not all.

This is what I want to believe anyway. I want to believe that there is still a large portion of respectable black people that simply want peace and productivity in life.

The proof will be in the November polling.

If you go by percentages.....blacks are more likely to act this way than whites.
Usually only a tiny percentage of any group is responsible for most of the crime committed by that group. The same is still true for blacks. However, 52% of all homicides are committed by black males, which is only 6% of the total US population. Most of those homicides are by repeat offenders.
So most blacks are not likely to be violent offenders.....but it appears that trend is changing.
Young black males are more and more likely to commit violent acts. Even young black females are becoming repeat offenders.
As a result it appears that social media is creating a class of criminals that are using race and just about any other excuse to become violent. They claim that looting is just a form of reparations. This type of mindset is intended to be counter-productive. The left, and particularly the Democrat Party, is intentionally trying to make race-relations worse in this country, not better. They think that this will help them install Socialism in America.
If you were to ask blacks from Kenya, Somalia, Nigeria, or any other African nation, they would tell you that they have a horrible impression of American Blacks. Many blacks who immigrate to the US become doctors and scientists, because they have developed a strong work ethic from their native countries. Peer pressure in America makes it difficult to be a good student. American Blacks instead are taught to make it big either in sports, music, or in crime. These are Hollywood stereotypes. Hollywood movies and television is as much to blame for crime in America as anything.

 

[martybegan]

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After months of watching blacks break into businesses and commit violence day in and day out, America is waking up to the fact that the real systemic racism in this country seem to be blacks themselves.

After decades of progress, it appears the Democrats finally have succeeded in turning blacks into precisely that which they have hated being called the most. Nobody in their right mind will move their business into their neighborhoods these days. The businesses that were broken into and looted aren't rebuilding....but instead are moving out or closing down permanently.

The True Cost of Riots

In a recent interview, BLM organizer Ariel Atkins argued that lootings are reparations for African Americans. Atkins denounced the suggestion that anything can be gained from peaceful protests. “Winning has come through revolts, Win...

www.americanthinker.com

The primary contributor to poverty in the black community is illegitimate childbirth and the racial gap when it comes to property values.
In both of these....blacks are their own worse enemies. Growing up in a family that has one earner is difficult to begin with when society demands two incomes. Now we have a reoccurring problem in the Hood.....the tearing down of property values because of riots. Nobody wants to move into a 3rd world Hell hole....so of course anyone who owns a home in these neighborhoods are seeing their property values plummet.

https://www.nber.org/papers/w10493.pdf

But the number one recurring issue when it comes to black Americans is the total lack of respect for authority. In almost every case blacks who have had run-ins with the police wouldn't have had a problem if they had just done what cops told them to do. So because of their lousy attitudes.....they perpetuate that which they are protesting. It's a never ending cycle.

Protests can move public opinion in a positive way.....but riots do the same in a negative way. Violence and destruction only assures one thing....that people will stop being empathetic to your plight. Nobody willingly gives into threats. It's getting to the point where blacks cannot claim to be the oppressed when they are the ones committing oppressive acts.

I have to disagree with you here. The greatest damage has been done by Bougie SJW type whites.

 

[Natural Citizen]

I'm not interested in any particular relations at all with blacks as a collective. I consider it burdensom. They're naggers. Always want to be treated like they're special or something. They're not.

They can do them and I'll do me and everything will be just fine.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Actually, most of the BLM rioters aren't black at all. Rosenbaum, the paedophile BLM'er who got clipped in Kenosha was a Honky. Ditto with so many of those who have been pinched and caught on video.

Blaming BLM riots on blacks just isn't accurate.

Oh FFS.... this shit again.
Look at the fucking videos out there everywhere kiddo.
Who do you see looting stores??..... at the minimum... 95% black.
Who is out there harassing and assaulting elderly white people??.... black.
You bet there are white snowflakes intermixed in the groups... obviously... but once again we can see the desperate excuse making for black people by white liberals.

 

[Blues Lifer]

This could be true for many, but not all.

This is what I want to believe anyway. I want to believe that there is still a large portion of respectable black people that simply want peace and productivity in life.

The proof will be in the November polling.

If you go by percentages.....blacks are more likely to act this way than whites.
Usually only a tiny percentage of any group is responsible for most of the crime committed by that group. The same is still true for blacks. However, 52% of all homicides are committed by black males, which is only 6% of the total US population. Most of those homicides are by repeat offenders.
So most blacks are not likely to be violent offenders.....but it appears that trend is changing.
Young black males are more and more likely to commit violent acts. Even young black females are becoming repeat offenders.
As a result it appears that social media is creating a class of criminals that are using race and just about any other excuse to become violent. They claim that looting is just a form of reparations. This type of mindset is intended to be counter-productive. The left, and particularly the Democrat Party, is intentionally trying to make race-relations worse in this country, not better. They think that this will help them install Socialism in America.
If you were to ask blacks from Kenya, Somalia, Nigeria, or any other African nation, they would tell you that they have a horrible impression of American Blacks. Many blacks who immigrate to the US become doctors and scientists, because they have developed a strong work ethic from their native countries. Peer pressure in America makes it difficult to be a good student. American Blacks instead are taught to make it big either in sports, music, or in crime. These are Hollywood stereotypes. Hollywood movies and television is as much to blame for crime in America as anything.

You know, I can't even fake a response that can combat what you are saying. I suppose I could try, but we all know that what you say is true.

I think the point of the thread, the way I read it, is this. In my view, people are individuals and should be related to as individuals. I'm going to judge people this way, though as you suggest,

I have no choice but to use more caution when relating to that 6%. That's just the smart and logical approach based on the numbers.

Some may see this as unfair and racist, but it should be noted: using extra caution does not equate to being unkind and vocalizing the added caution. If they happen to perceive this as a problem, then maybe it's their responsibility to greatly reduce the percentage of the above mentioned 52%.