Edgetho
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It costs more money to keep people alive than it does to let them die.
Let's Eliminate Government-Mandated Handicapped Parking Spots.
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**** the handicap in the good earIn 2025, America is faced with such an erosion of liberties that many of us are numb to it. It's just expected, and it's imbedded in so many subtle ways.
Today, I'm going to focus on one of my pet peeves that I am sure many of you will disagree with me on, conservatives included: Handicapped parking spaces.
Ten years ago this summer, I had a torn quadriceps tendon, had major surgery and was in a cast for six weeks. I borrowed a walker from a neighbor. There was a point when no one was home, and I had to go to Walmart to buy groceries. All the close by parking spots were taken, except for the 20 or so handicapped spots of which about five were occupied. As you know, handicapped spots are the premium locations always closest to the door. So I began my slow trek about 200 feet from the entrance. As I neared the empty handicapped spots, a van pulled into one of them and out waddled a 300-pound woman. I don't know what her disability was, but the main one appeared to be that she was morbidly obese. She was walking without assistance, so I would assume if she were to drop 150 or so pounds, she could walk normally and not need a special spot. The only requirement for getting approval for handicapped parking is for a health care professional to sign off. Doesn't have to be a doctor. A nurse practitioner will do. And there doesn't have to be a specific condition; only the determination that one has difficulty walking normally. So this could be most anybody who wants one. I am told these things are relatively easy to come by.
A business must have 2% of spaces solely for handicapped parking. For a small business, any number under 20, must be for the handicapped; again the prime spot. My beef is that this spot is usually available, and 98% of the population is inconvenienced at all times to accommodate the possibility that less than 2% might use a spot. For a business like Walmart or Lowe's that has upwards of 1000 parking spots, at least 20 front-and-center spots have to be available. Usually fewer than half are filled. This inconveniences everybody else. I sure could have used one of those spots that day I was in a cast with my walker.
This madness started in 1973 with the Rehabilition Act which guaranteed rights for the Disabled. While the act didn't mandate parking spaces, it set the table for the American Disabilities Act of 1990 which ushered in the familiar guy-in-a-wheelchair blue icon where the rules were standardized.
My thoughts? This is just another unfunded mandate that businesses are expected to eat. The decision should be left up to the business. If they think a spot should be left open, leave it open. If not, don't have a handicapped spot. If people complain, it's on the business to decide. It also depends on the type of business. Hospitals and doctors' offices could choose to have them. Athletic speed performance centers may decide they don't need them. Right now, no one is encouraged by our laws or government health care system to be healthy. America is increasingly obese, and we must not fat shame people. In fact, we are told by the left we must celebrate people's obesity. "It's who they are". There are no incentives for being fit. No incentives to walk. But if we were to mandate spots, let's restrict eligibility and make it tougher. Being a 40-year-old fatass should not be enough.
But if we must have mandated handicapped parking, let's do it more intelligently. Lowe's shouldn't have 15 open prime real estate spots on a crowded business day. Have 15-minute parking. Or open those spaces for everyone between, 6 pm and 8 am. Or if there are say, eight parking spots, let the end spot be for the handicapped; not the one right in front (which requires another adjacent space for loading and unloading).
It's all part of the softening of society. What did people do before 1974? They worked it out. They went when it wasn't busy. They got dropped off. Someone went in for them. They did what they could to become ambulatory again. Or businesses decided for themselves. Forced mandates are not compassion. True disabilities are unfortunate, but you don't make everyone else move heaven and earth to accommodate. Government needs to get the hell out. It's none of their business.
History of Handicapped Parking Tags
Discover the history of handicapped parking tags, how they originated & shaped accessibility laws to support drivers with disabilities.wkfirm.com
US obesity rates have tripled over the last 60 years | USAFacts
Nationwide surveys show that 40% of Americans are obese, while 10% are severely obese.usafacts.org
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Let businesses handle it. Butt out.
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Broken ******* record.
I suppose they'll form the correct opinion of your Catholic morals.
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In 2025, America is faced with such an erosion of liberties that many of us are numb to it. It's just expected, and it's imbedded in so many subtle ways.
Today, I'm going to focus on one of my pet peeves that I am sure many of you will disagree with me on, conservatives included: Handicapped parking spaces.
Ten years ago this summer, I had a torn quadriceps tendon, had major surgery and was in a cast for six weeks. I borrowed a walker from a neighbor. There was a point when no one was home, and I had to go to Walmart to buy groceries. All the close by parking spots were taken, except for the 20 or so handicapped spots of which about five were occupied. As you know, handicapped spots are the premium locations always closest to the door. So I began my slow trek about 200 feet from the entrance. As I neared the empty handicapped spots, a van pulled into one of them and out waddled a 300-pound woman. I don't know what her disability was, but the main one appeared to be that she was morbidly obese. She was walking without assistance, so I would assume if she were to drop 150 or so pounds, she could walk normally and not need a special spot. The only requirement for getting approval for handicapped parking is for a health care professional to sign off. Doesn't have to be a doctor. A nurse practitioner will do. And there doesn't have to be a specific condition; only the determination that one has difficulty walking normally. So this could be most anybody who wants one. I am told these things are relatively easy to come by.
A business must have 2% of spaces solely for handicapped parking. For a small business, any number under 20, must be for the handicapped; again the prime spot. My beef is that this spot is usually available, and 98% of the population is inconvenienced at all times to accommodate the possibility that less than 2% might use a spot. For a business like Walmart or Lowe's that has upwards of 1000 parking spots, at least 20 front-and-center spots have to be available. Usually fewer than half are filled. This inconveniences everybody else. I sure could have used one of those spots that day I was in a cast with my walker.
This madness started in 1973 with the Rehabilition Act which guaranteed rights for the Disabled. While the act didn't mandate parking spaces, it set the table for the American Disabilities Act of 1990 which ushered in the familiar guy-in-a-wheelchair blue icon where the rules were standardized.
My thoughts? This is just another unfunded mandate that businesses are expected to eat. The decision should be left up to the business. If they think a spot should be left open, leave it open. If not, don't have a handicapped spot. If people complain, it's on the business to decide. It also depends on the type of business. Hospitals and doctors' offices could choose to have them. Athletic speed performance centers may decide they don't need them. Right now, no one is encouraged by our laws or government health care system to be healthy. America is increasingly obese, and we must not fat shame people. In fact, we are told by the left we must celebrate people's obesity. "It's who they are". There are no incentives for being fit. No incentives to walk. But if we were to mandate spots, let's restrict eligibility and make it tougher. Being a 40-year-old fatass should not be enough.
But if we must have mandated handicapped parking, let's do it more intelligently. Lowe's shouldn't have 15 open prime real estate spots on a crowded business day. Have 15-minute parking. Or open those spaces for everyone between, 6 pm and 8 am. Or if there are say, eight parking spots, let the end spot be for the handicapped; not the one right in front (which requires another adjacent space for loading and unloading).
It's all part of the softening of society. What did people do before 1974? They worked it out. They went when it wasn't busy. They got dropped off. Someone went in for them. They did what they could to become ambulatory again. Or businesses decided for themselves. Forced mandates are not compassion. True disabilities are unfortunate, but you don't make everyone else move heaven and earth to accommodate. Government needs to get the hell out. It's none of their business.
History of Handicapped Parking Tags
Discover the history of handicapped parking tags, how they originated & shaped accessibility laws to support drivers with disabilities.US obesity rates have tripled over the last 60 years | USAFacts
Nationwide surveys show that 40% of Americans are obese, while 10% are severely obese.
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Not funny, little Asian guy.
Unkotare
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That's big Irish guy, moron.
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Handicap spots. Erosion of liberties!
There really is no limit to just how big a c*nt Trumptards can be, is there.
It's always funny to hear Trump's supporters whine about obese people. Can they not see their cult leader is a fat boy?
I bet most fat people are Trump supporters. All that back bacon and deep fried Twinkies and whatnot.
Nevertheless, I have a family member who has a TBI. She needs a handicap card because she forgets where she parked while grocery shopping and needs her vehicle to be within eyeshot when she comes out.,
We can't have her wandering around a parking lot in the dark looking for her car. She would be a target.
It was incredibly difficult to get her doctor to sign off on a handicap tag. She does not have a physical handicap, but hers is just as debilitating.
I understand your frustration with some people. I had a coworker who managed to get a card because he has asthma. That's just ******* stupid.
But a lot of seniors need them. And when you are old, you will probably need one, too, unless we are all getting around in self-driving cars and parking spots will be a thing of the past.
But don't be a c*nt. There are legitimate needs for these handicap spots, and I very rarely see an empty one at the grocery store.
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So everyone should do it?
No rendering unto Caesar from you, eh?
You'd rather covet your store's designated slots.
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You're one of these guys who rails against Medicaid cuts, without looking at what's being done, I'll bet.Handicap spots. Erosion of liberties!
There really is no limit to just how big a c*nt Trumptards can be, is there.
It's always funny to hear Trump's supporters whine about obese people. Can they not see their cult leader is a fat boy?
I bet most fat people are Trump supporters. All that back bacon and deep fried Twinkies and whatnot.
Nevertheless, I have a family member who has a TBI. She needs a handicap card because she forgets where she parked while grocery shopping and needs her vehicle to be within eyeshot when she comes out.,
We can't have her wandering around a parking lot in the dark looking for her car. She would be a target.
It was incredibly difficult to get her doctor to sign off on a handicap tag. She does not have a physical handicap, but hers is just as debilitating.
I understand your frustration with some people. I had a coworker who managed to get a card because he has asthma. That's just ******* stupid.
But a lot of seniors need them. And when you are old, you will probably need one, too, unless we are all getting around in self-driving cars and parking spots will be a thing of the past.
But don't be a c*nt. There are legitimate needs for these handicap spots, and I very rarely see an empty one at the grocery store.
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I don't care how carefully I lay out the argument, there will always be leftwing dimwits who scream "Why do you want to hurt disabled people?"
To recap the OP:
1) I think many who get the card don't need them, aka young people who are obese.
2) I think the spots should be managed better (Handicapped parking at Lowes between 10 and 6 for Disabled People Only)
3) I think the gov't should stay out of it and let businesses handle it.
4) 0besity rates have tripled since 1965. Intelligent people look at ways to reverse rather than reward that.
4) 0bese people shouldn't be a victim class like leftwingers have made them out to be.
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Then why you have little Japanese guy as avatar?
Unkotare
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The actor in that picture is portraying one of the most famous Samurai generals in all of history.
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Ah. Bluce Ree.
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