Let Us Never Forget!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[janeeng]

As we all know, today, September 11, 2003, is the two year anniversary of the tradgedy that changed our world. Today is the day that we can look back and reflect on what was taken from us. So many innocent lives taken from their families because of a coward, because of such HATE!!! Many people can say that to turn around and start a war is wrong, well, I say BS!!! this is our land, and to have some coward send his followers here to take lives, the lives of people who did nothing, then I say, YOU GO BUSH!!! whether war is right or wrong, it's time to go after those that have come into our land and try to destroy it. An Iraq, well, there is/was a threat there too! A man, Hussein, just as much a coward as Bin Laden, kill innocent people, and for what? and you all can sit and say Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11, maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but he is still a KILLER of innocent people. I will never ever forget the lives that were taken on this day two years ago. I just hope someday that this senseless killing will end throughout this world and there will be peace, however, I doubt it. If we can put somewhat of a stop to the terrorists, then I say it's a start. And if saying God is wrong to some, tough, and if you don't like our flag, tough, LEAVE!!!! and last but least "MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I also sent a file, a song, dedicated to 9/11 - there are many more, but just one that I think was nice. I need Jim to run that after this.

 

[jimnyc]

Attached is the song that Janeen sent me, just click on the link to listen. I've included the portion of the lyrics that are heard.

WTC Memorial Song


If tomorrow all the things were gone,
I’d worked for all my life.
And I had to start again,
with just my children and my wife.

I’d thank my lucky stars,
to be livin here today.
‘Cause the flag still stands for freedom,
and they can’t take that away.

And I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.

And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.

*** Moving to General USA section ***

 

[jimnyc]

I just want to add what I was thinking at 8:46am.

Jackass was with me back on 9/11/2001, so he knows mostly what I'm saying.

Although I didn't necessarily feel imminent danger that day, it was a time you just wanted to get the hell out of the city. Everything happened so quickly and people were all just scrambling around for news and answers as to what just happened. We were instructed by our superiors at work to stay put and not leave the floor we worked on. Jackass and I were outside about 4 minutes after they told us that!

Traffic was in chaos, tunnels and bridges were closed, and there was essentially no way for most people to get home. I met my wife outside the building I worked shortly after leaving. I drove in that day and was able to get my car out of the garage. Jackass and a couple more of my closer friends began their 16 street and 7 avenue walk down to the ferry to shuttle them back into NJ. It took me nearly 2 1/2 hours to get out of northern NYC, and when I called my friends they were still in a huge line at the ferry entrance.

Once on the highways out of the city the roads were empty. I was lucky enough to know shortcuts through areas that weren't closed down. There wasn't much conversation in the car. We mostly called friends and family & listened to all the news stations in horror.

Although I'm ALWAYS happy to see my son when I get home, I was especially happy on 9/11. Luckily, he had no clue as to what was going on at his age. He'll likely learn all about it in school throughout the years to come.

So, this morning, rather than reflecting on the damage and lives lost, I looked back on the many lucky people and loved ones. I'm grateful that I wasn't, nor was anyone I know, directly involved. I pray for those who weren't so fortunate. This morning brought back a lot of memories. Believe it or not, some were good. I can't imagine what it would have been like to not have friends around, not have my wife near by, and not having the concern of family.

 

[NightTrain]

Amen.

 

[Creek]

It makes a person know how precious life is,and also that day show that this earth has people walking around with hearts as cold as ice.

My sympathy to the family's who never had loved ones make it home that horrible day.

Good post Janeen & Jim..Bless you both..

 

[Jackass]

As Jim said..there wasnt an immediate sense of danger...but for me, it opened my eyes to what others in the world live like. Never before that day had I ever thought about an outside terrorist attack on the country. It made me see and feel how life in Israel must be like. Unfortunatley, there it is practically an everyday occurance.
I count myself very fortunate that I and my friends and family all escaped that terrible event. When I got home and saw my 2 kids..I couldnt help but cry. To think of not seeing them again..was way too much for me to bear after that day.

God bless us all!

 

[Dan]

I posted a little essay about how I felt on 9/11 way back then, I'm not sure if I still have it, I'll look for it later.

The weird thing is, it didn't really affect me at all that day or night. I mean, it was surreal and insane and all, but I just went about my business as though nothing had happened, and it was like that for about a week. Then about a week later (the next Friday), I was driving home from school to see my parents and I put in a mixed CD that had Live's "Overcome" on it, and for some reason, everything just clicked right then and it all washed over me like a tidal wave. In the matter of three and a half minutes I went from completely normal to a whithering mess. It was a sad day for all, though.

 

[Dom]

While the storm clouds gather far across the sea,
Let us swear allegiance to a land that's free,
Let us all be grateful for a land so fair,
As we raise our voices in a solemn prayer:
God Bless America.
Land that I love
Stand beside her, and guide her
Thru the night with a light from above.
From the mountains, to the prairies ,
To the oceans, white with foam
God bless America
My home sweet home.

God Bless America,
Land that I love
Stand beside her,
And guide her,
Through the night
With the light from above,
From the mountains,
To the prairies,
To the ocean,
White with foam,
God bless America,
My home sweet home.
God bless America,
My home sweet home.


I remember 9/11 here in Edison , I woke up and found out what happened, and all I remember is the traffic was bumper to bumper, sky was clear Blue and beautiful , and it was so quiet out, army helicopters and fighter planes were flying over the houses, and it will be a day I will never forget. Rest In Peace to all who did not make it and god bless their families, and last God Bless America-United We Stand.!

 

[eric]

Great posts !!!

I think today should be a day of reflection, a day to remember the worst of humanity but at the same time the best. This day 2 years prior, we saw cowards who believed that by killing women and children they would somehow please their god, a god by the way, I want no part of, but we also saw real men and women, who also freely gave their lives but for a far more noble cause.

I also remember the day when americans banded together and a spirit of patroitism prevailed, a day in retrospect which makes me proud to live in this great land. I think it is fitting to say that on that day that "All gave some, some gave all" !

Watching the memorials today and seeing the families of the people who perished, humbles me, but also reminds me of why we are overseas, and strengthens my resolve. This must never happen again ! At least we should know in our hearts that we did all we could to prevent it.

Last let us not forget about the men and women, many just kids, who provide the blanket of freedom under which we all sleep, and many of us take for granted. Let us not just support them, but also support their cause, for if we do not, then they must feel they are giving their lives in vain.

These brave men and women do believe that they are making our land more secure by being there while at the same time bestowing on the people of Iraq and Afganistan a freedom they have never known !

A verse from the battle hymn rings true :

"Christ died to make men holy, let us die to make men free"

God bless us all !

 

[jimnyc]

Great post, Eric.

I'm glad to see that most Americans are on the same page and what has happened on 9/11 won't soon be forgotten.

 

[Jackass]

yes excellent post Eric!

 

[rtm]

It's almost like I knew those underpaid firemen and those rich office workers personally!!!!!


[edit] let me make it clear, I'm not a terrorist or a apathetic person. I do feel bad when people get killed, but I guess I'm just finding September 11th not emotionally powerful at all, anymore. Perhaps if this was World War 2 and the invasion of Iwo Jima had just happened three years ago and 6,000 americans died then I'd be like "never forget!" but I just can't feel that. I think it's less of a caring for unknown people who died in the World Trade Center attack, and more of a regret that two oversized buildings were lost and aren't a landmark anymore that gets people sad over it, or maybe because we're so far into the future and that we control such a huge portion of North America that we feel like death is special and if American life dies it's the end of the world, but if someone in Mexico or in France dies, it's not.

Plus I just can't put up with the whole commercialism crap of 9/11 like people putting chinese made American flags on their SUVs and that whole insane period when every news network put a little american flag graphic on the corner of the screen, or when journalists put on little american flag pins on their clothes (even though it was stupid to do when they were in Iraq during the start of the blitzkreig).

Also, it's whole degrading thing with Bush or any politician using 9/11 whenever they give a speech or talk about anything, even stuff not remotely related to New York.

 

[jimnyc]

I think it's less of a caring for unknown people who died in the World Trade Center attack, and more of a regret that two oversized buildings were lost and aren't a landmark anymore that gets people sad over it

Are you kidding me? Should we not care since we didn't know them personally? And a few people on this very board DID know some that lost their lives in the Trade Center. I think I can point you in the direction of 3,000 families that would rather see their loved ones again as opposed to the landmark.

 

[janeeng]

You are right to your opinion, but how can you say that about this? Yes, they were two buildings that symbolized NY, but more so, not ONLY did NY get attacked the USA did! You had the WTC, which held thousands alone from all parts of the world, then the Pentagon, from military to everyday life people, then in PA, just people hoping not to die! These were all people of different cultures that went to work one day, never to know that it would be their last day. WE were attacked! As they said, this is a new WAR. How can you sit and say that? and what about Mexico, I don't see any of the Military are for that matter, anyone from here using planes filled with people to blast a building or anything in Mexico, or in France!!!! People die everyday, but being murdered by cowards just because they don't like what America stands for, that's wrong - sorry, i can't forget about this, nor will I.

 

[rtm]

Originally posted by jimnyc
Are you kidding me? Should we not care since we didn't know them personally? And a few people on this very board DID know some that lost their lives in the Trade Center. I think I can point you in the direction of 3,000 families that would rather see their loved ones again as opposed to the landmark.

Well, maybe I just don't care anymore because I've seen too much propaganda on television? I mean, most of the United States believed that Saddam Hussein caused September 11th, and it took two wars before Bush publicly stated that Iraq never had anything to do with it. So can't you agree that the networks whose opinions are decided by watchdogs played an imporant role in influencing the public's view of Iraq using September 11th as a backdrop? Isn't that the same thing as taking advantage of someone?

 

[eric]

Hey you know what you little asshole, go fuck yourself I lost lifelong friends that day! Hopefully your shitty family dies a fucking horrible death. Hows that for careing.

 

[jimnyc]

Originally posted by eric
Hey you know what you little asshole, go fuck yourself I lost lifelong friends that day! Hopefully your shitty family dies a fucking horrible death. Hows that for careing.

I second that! Do I hear a third?

 

[UppityCracker]

so?

 

[rtm]

Originally posted by eric
Hey you know what you little asshole, go fuck yourself I lost lifelong friends that day! Hopefully your shitty family dies a fucking horrible death. Hows that for careing.

oic

 

[eric]

Here is another one for careing. I now refuse to hire little brown smelly sandniggers like yourself, hows that.