Let the authortarian gun grabbing begin

My MOS in the army was 27E which is anti armor missile systems repair and maint. At that time it was the TOW and Dragon missile systems...They are deadly dangerous but most folks don't have them and that is why I want a Tiger tank.

Ok....I know a guy that buys outdated, antique fire engines, and restores them...They are not used in fires anymore, but he finds enjoyment out of the process....So, you should be with us not infringing on the right of the citizen, right?
 
WASHINGTON, April 2 (Reuters) - The White House is trying to craft a series of executive actions for President Joe Biden to sign to try to limit gun violence, hoping they cannot be quickly dismantled in court, according to aides and gun safety groups.

snip

Mass shootings last month in Georgia and Colorado have put pressure on the White House to act, as swift legislation is not likely through Congress. Press secretary Jen Psaki reiterated on Thursday that the administration is looking at executive orders.


After years of liberal progressives mocking us, and talking down to us that they didn't want to take our guns, we now have a puppet in the WH that is bending to the dumbest voices in DC....

An executive order is a means of issuing federal directives in the United States, used by the President of the United States, that manages operations of the federal government.[1]

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These people are treating EO's like they are laws.....They're not...They are meant to be directives to the organizations of the Federal Government that are run by the Executive....This absurdity of allowing this administration to get away with mandating certain things, getting around Congress, and the legislative process is a travesty to liberty in this country...It is an abuse of power...

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

It is my interpretation that in the reading of the 2A, one needs to look at the comma's as periods...IOW, "A well regulated Militia." gives the commander in chief to adopt, and implement rules to govern and command the Militia, or in today's world, the NG...."The right of the people to keep, and bear arms." Speaks to our right as citizens to own firearms. "Shall not be infringed" is simple...Since it is MY right to keep and bear arms, it is telling the government that they CAN NOT impede me from doing so....Certainly not from an EO...We don't have a monarchy in this country....

Over the years we have allowed more and more infringement of our 2A right, and I say ENOUGH! I am a law abiding gun owner, and use my guns for target shooting, home protection, and hunting....I was in the Army for 6 years, and was an expert marksman, as well as a Armorer for my units....I am well trained in not only situational fire arm control, but target aquisition, and removal up to 300 meters..I stay up to date on my training, and have for over thirty years since my discharge from the Army...And I am a conceled carry permit holder good in 34 states....Why liberal progressives want to take my fire arms away is beyond lunacy to me, and makes no sense....They don't even know what they are talking about concerning guns when pressed on the issue...

In the end, I wake up everyday and wonder what the threshhold is for American's to look at what this administration is doing and say enough is enough....This needs to end not only because they are not only bankrupting the country, but now want to disarm the populace...Plus there is clear cut reason now to believe that Biden, and his family are compromised by the Chineese, and will be ineffectual should Bejing decide to marshall any attack against this country...We are in a severely bad place when it comes to this President, and I can not accept, nor believe this is what the country voted for....

Thoughts?
When they come to the door looking to confiscate your weapons, aim for the face.
 
WASHINGTON, April 2 (Reuters) - The White House is trying to craft a series of executive actions for President Joe Biden to sign to try to limit gun violence, hoping they cannot be quickly dismantled in court, according to aides and gun safety groups.

snip

Mass shootings last month in Georgia and Colorado have put pressure on the White House to act, as swift legislation is not likely through Congress. Press secretary Jen Psaki reiterated on Thursday that the administration is looking at executive orders.


After years of liberal progressives mocking us, and talking down to us that they didn't want to take our guns, we now have a puppet in the WH that is bending to the dumbest voices in DC....

An executive order is a means of issuing federal directives in the United States, used by the President of the United States, that manages operations of the federal government.[1]

.

These people are treating EO's like they are laws.....They're not...They are meant to be directives to the organizations of the Federal Government that are run by the Executive....This absurdity of allowing this administration to get away with mandating certain things, getting around Congress, and the legislative process is a travesty to liberty in this country...It is an abuse of power...

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

It is my interpretation that in the reading of the 2A, one needs to look at the comma's as periods...IOW, "A well regulated Militia." gives the commander in chief to adopt, and implement rules to govern and command the Militia, or in today's world, the NG...."The right of the people to keep, and bear arms." Speaks to our right as citizens to own firearms. "Shall not be infringed" is simple...Since it is MY right to keep and bear arms, it is telling the government that they CAN NOT impede me from doing so....Certainly not from an EO...We don't have a monarchy in this country....

Over the years we have allowed more and more infringement of our 2A right, and I say ENOUGH! I am a law abiding gun owner, and use my guns for target shooting, home protection, and hunting....I was in the Army for 6 years, and was an expert marksman, as well as a Armorer for my units....I am well trained in not only situational fire arm control, but target aquisition, and removal up to 300 meters..I stay up to date on my training, and have for over thirty years since my discharge from the Army...And I am a conceled carry permit holder good in 34 states....Why liberal progressives want to take my fire arms away is beyond lunacy to me, and makes no sense....They don't even know what they are talking about concerning guns when pressed on the issue...

In the end, I wake up everyday and wonder what the threshhold is for American's to look at what this administration is doing and say enough is enough....This needs to end not only because they are not only bankrupting the country, but now want to disarm the populace...Plus there is clear cut reason now to believe that Biden, and his family are compromised by the Chineese, and will be ineffectual should Bejing decide to marshall any attack against this country...We are in a severely bad place when it comes to this President, and I can not accept, nor believe this is what the country voted for....

Thoughts?

There is no real argument over the 2nd Amendment. The Democrats know as well as the Americans that the individual right to bear arms is guaranteed by the document. They just don't like it because it prevents them from moving their totalitarian business plan forward.

The current group of Democrats at the top are getting more and more jittery for power. Look for them to overstep soon.
 
I just want the fed gov't to follow it's rules- all of them.
You can buy a pee shooter to a 60mm machine gun in the US and you think the rules have been broken?

" The domestic manufacture of new machine guns that civilians could purchase was effectively banned by language in the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 (also known as "McClure-Volkmer"). The language was added in an amendment from William J. Hughes and referred to as the Hughes Amendment. "

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Sorry Moon, you are incorrect....You can NOT buy a machine gun....
 
I just want the fed gov't to follow it's rules- all of them.
You can buy a pee shooter to a 60mm machine gun in the US and you think the rules have been broken?
can I buy a new m-5 full auto like the military uses??
You could if you had a collectors license. I am thinking about getting one, because then you can buy most weaponry for your collection. It does cost a hell of a lot but in todays gun grabbing society, a fully automatic, just might come in handy..

How Much Does Federal Firearms License Cost In 2021? (costaide.com)
 
WASHINGTON, April 2 (Reuters) - The White House is trying to craft a series of executive actions for President Joe Biden to sign to try to limit gun violence, hoping they cannot be quickly dismantled in court, according to aides and gun safety groups.

snip

Mass shootings last month in Georgia and Colorado have put pressure on the White House to act, as swift legislation is not likely through Congress. Press secretary Jen Psaki reiterated on Thursday that the administration is looking at executive orders.


After years of liberal progressives mocking us, and talking down to us that they didn't want to take our guns, we now have a puppet in the WH that is bending to the dumbest voices in DC....

An executive order is a means of issuing federal directives in the United States, used by the President of the United States, that manages operations of the federal government.[1]

.

These people are treating EO's like they are laws.....They're not...They are meant to be directives to the organizations of the Federal Government that are run by the Executive....This absurdity of allowing this administration to get away with mandating certain things, getting around Congress, and the legislative process is a travesty to liberty in this country...It is an abuse of power...

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

It is my interpretation that in the reading of the 2A, one needs to look at the comma's as periods...IOW, "A well regulated Militia." gives the commander in chief to adopt, and implement rules to govern and command the Militia, or in today's world, the NG...."The right of the people to keep, and bear arms." Speaks to our right as citizens to own firearms. "Shall not be infringed" is simple...Since it is MY right to keep and bear arms, it is telling the government that they CAN NOT impede me from doing so....Certainly not from an EO...We don't have a monarchy in this country....

Over the years we have allowed more and more infringement of our 2A right, and I say ENOUGH! I am a law abiding gun owner, and use my guns for target shooting, home protection, and hunting....I was in the Army for 6 years, and was an expert marksman, as well as a Armorer for my units....I am well trained in not only situational fire arm control, but target aquisition, and removal up to 300 meters..I stay up to date on my training, and have for over thirty years since my discharge from the Army...And I am a conceled carry permit holder good in 34 states....Why liberal progressives want to take my fire arms away is beyond lunacy to me, and makes no sense....They don't even know what they are talking about concerning guns when pressed on the issue...

In the end, I wake up everyday and wonder what the threshhold is for American's to look at what this administration is doing and say enough is enough....This needs to end not only because they are not only bankrupting the country, but now want to disarm the populace...Plus there is clear cut reason now to believe that Biden, and his family are compromised by the Chineese, and will be ineffectual should Bejing decide to marshall any attack against this country...We are in a severely bad place when it comes to this President, and I can not accept, nor believe this is what the country voted for....

Thoughts?

There is no real argument over the 2nd Amendment. The Democrats know as well as the Americans that the individual right to bear arms is guaranteed by the document. They just don't like it because it prevents them from moving their totalitarian business plan forward.

The current group of Democrats at the top are getting more and more jittery for power. Look for them to overstep soon.


I for one would say they already have, but as usual Democrats are incapable of having too much power because they always do overstep their authority....
 
I just want the fed gov't to follow it's rules- all of them.
You can buy a pee shooter to a 60mm machine gun in the US and you think the rules have been broken?

" The domestic manufacture of new machine guns that civilians could purchase was effectively banned by language in the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 (also known as "McClure-Volkmer"). The language was added in an amendment from William J. Hughes and referred to as the Hughes Amendment. "

.

Sorry Moon, you are incorrect....You can NOT buy a machine gun....

Sure you can but it has been modified so it is not an automatic. I gotz one or two..Check out your class nine dealers. Then learn how to modify the modification, eh...
 
WASHINGTON, April 2 (Reuters) - The White House is trying to craft a series of executive actions for President Joe Biden to sign to try to limit gun violence, hoping they cannot be quickly dismantled in court, according to aides and gun safety groups.

snip

Mass shootings last month in Georgia and Colorado have put pressure on the White House to act, as swift legislation is not likely through Congress. Press secretary Jen Psaki reiterated on Thursday that the administration is looking at executive orders.


After years of liberal progressives mocking us, and talking down to us that they didn't want to take our guns, we now have a puppet in the WH that is bending to the dumbest voices in DC....

An executive order is a means of issuing federal directives in the United States, used by the President of the United States, that manages operations of the federal government.[1]

.

These people are treating EO's like they are laws.....They're not...They are meant to be directives to the organizations of the Federal Government that are run by the Executive....This absurdity of allowing this administration to get away with mandating certain things, getting around Congress, and the legislative process is a travesty to liberty in this country...It is an abuse of power...

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

It is my interpretation that in the reading of the 2A, one needs to look at the comma's as periods...IOW, "A well regulated Militia." gives the commander in chief to adopt, and implement rules to govern and command the Militia, or in today's world, the NG...."The right of the people to keep, and bear arms." Speaks to our right as citizens to own firearms. "Shall not be infringed" is simple...Since it is MY right to keep and bear arms, it is telling the government that they CAN NOT impede me from doing so....Certainly not from an EO...We don't have a monarchy in this country....

Over the years we have allowed more and more infringement of our 2A right, and I say ENOUGH! I am a law abiding gun owner, and use my guns for target shooting, home protection, and hunting....I was in the Army for 6 years, and was an expert marksman, as well as a Armorer for my units....I am well trained in not only situational fire arm control, but target aquisition, and removal up to 300 meters..I stay up to date on my training, and have for over thirty years since my discharge from the Army...And I am a conceled carry permit holder good in 34 states....Why liberal progressives want to take my fire arms away is beyond lunacy to me, and makes no sense....They don't even know what they are talking about concerning guns when pressed on the issue...

In the end, I wake up everyday and wonder what the threshhold is for American's to look at what this administration is doing and say enough is enough....This needs to end not only because they are not only bankrupting the country, but now want to disarm the populace...Plus there is clear cut reason now to believe that Biden, and his family are compromised by the Chineese, and will be ineffectual should Bejing decide to marshall any attack against this country...We are in a severely bad place when it comes to this President, and I can not accept, nor believe this is what the country voted for....

Thoughts?

There is no real argument over the 2nd Amendment. The Democrats know as well as the Americans that the individual right to bear arms is guaranteed by the document. They just don't like it because it prevents them from moving their totalitarian business plan forward.

The current group of Democrats at the top are getting more and more jittery for power. Look for them to overstep soon.
Overstep soon? Stealing an election was an overstep.. Putting up a wall(that doesnt work, as they say) around the Capitol and deploying the military against US, isnt overstepping?

How about this jewel by the bat shit crazy Nan from San Fransicko.

She says We the People are the enemy of the state, thus she and Prog elites are the state, who are the enemy of the People.
 
I don't believe that Joe can do much on gun control via executive order/action, he can't create new laws cuz that is the sole purview of Congress and the courts would strike that down. I'm sure he will write whatever he is told to write, but it won't pass constitutional muster.


During his first term, Obama didn't call for any major new restrictions on guns or gun owners. Instead, he urged authorities to enforce the state and federal laws already on the books. In fact, Obama signed only two major laws that address how guns are carried in America, and both actually expand the rights of gun owners.


One of the laws allows gun owners to carry weapons in national parks; that law took effect in February 2012 and replaced President Ronald Reagan's policy that required guns to be locked in glove compartments of trunks of cars that enter national parks.


Another gun law signed by Obama allows Amtrak passengers to carry guns in checked baggage, a move that reversed a measure put in place after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Perhaps the most significant Obama gun control measure was not a law but a rule that required the Social Security Administration to report disability-benefit recipients with mental health conditions to the FBI’s background check system, which is used to screen firearm buyers. Obama's successor, Republican President Donald Trump, rescinded the rule in 2017.
 
I just want the fed gov't to follow it's rules- all of them.
You can buy a pee shooter to a 60mm machine gun in the US and you think the rules have been broken?

" The domestic manufacture of new machine guns that civilians could purchase was effectively banned by language in the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 (also known as "McClure-Volkmer"). The language was added in an amendment from William J. Hughes and referred to as the Hughes Amendment. "

.

Sorry Moon, you are incorrect....You can NOT buy a machine gun....

Sure you can but it has been modified so it is not an automatic. I gotz one or two..Check out your class nine dealers. Then learn how to modify the modification, eh...

So, you're admitting to owning an illegal firearm now eh?
 
i wish the beijing xiden admin. good luck...please step on my property, i will protect my property...consider this your warning....
 
So who here that has firearms is just gonna let the got take yer firearms away?

I doubt they ever make a law to try to disarm the public.
 
It is my interpretation that in the reading of the 2A, one needs to look at the comma's as periods...IOW, "A well regulated Militia."
Militia is clearly the important part of that amendment. DC vs Heller is clearly a travesty.
 
I just want the fed gov't to follow it's rules- all of them.
You can buy a pee shooter to a 60mm machine gun in the US and you think the rules have been broken?

" The domestic manufacture of new machine guns that civilians could purchase was effectively banned by language in the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 (also known as "McClure-Volkmer"). The language was added in an amendment from William J. Hughes and referred to as the Hughes Amendment. "

.

Sorry Moon, you are incorrect....You can NOT buy a machine gun....

Sure you can but it has been modified so it is not an automatic. I gotz one or two..Check out your class nine dealers. Then learn how to modify the modification, eh...

So, you're admitting to owning an illegal firearm now eh?
Surely you misunderstood what I meant five-o
 
It is my interpretation that in the reading of the 2A, one needs to look at the comma's as periods...IOW, "A well regulated Militia."
Militia is clearly the important part of that amendment. DC vs Heller is clearly a travesty.

I disagree....The amendment orders that every citizen has the right to not only own, but carry a gun, and there is NOTHING you can do about that without infringing on that right, IOW, violating the constitution...So, why was Heller so bad...Allowing the citizenery to protect themselves I see as a good thing...
 
It is my interpretation that in the reading of the 2A, one needs to look at the comma's as periods...IOW, "A well regulated Militia."
Militia is clearly the important part of that amendment. DC vs Heller is clearly a travesty.

I disagree....The amendment orders that every citizen has the right to not only own, but carry a gun, and there is NOTHING you can do about that without infringing on that right, IOW, violating the constitution...So, why was Heller so bad...Allowing the citizenery to protect themselves I see as a good thing...
Then why did nobody think that until like 1985?
 
I just want the fed gov't to follow it's rules- all of them.
You can buy a pee shooter to a 60mm machine gun in the US and you think the rules have been broken?

" The domestic manufacture of new machine guns that civilians could purchase was effectively banned by language in the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 (also known as "McClure-Volkmer"). The language was added in an amendment from William J. Hughes and referred to as the Hughes Amendment. "

.

Sorry Moon, you are incorrect....You can NOT buy a machine gun....

Sure you can but it has been modified so it is not an automatic. I gotz one or two..Check out your class nine dealers. Then learn how to modify the modification, eh...

So, you're admitting to owning an illegal firearm now eh?
Surely you misunderstood what I meant five-o

I did? Did you not post:

"Then learn how to modify the modification"?

So, you're saying you bought an M-60, modified to take away the auto feature, then you undid, or modified it back...That is what you were implying....Now you want to quickly back away from that statement....I would too, knowing the level of surveilence in the interwebs today...
 
It is my interpretation that in the reading of the 2A, one needs to look at the comma's as periods...IOW, "A well regulated Militia."
Militia is clearly the important part of that amendment. DC vs Heller is clearly a travesty.

I disagree....The amendment orders that every citizen has the right to not only own, but carry a gun, and there is NOTHING you can do about that without infringing on that right, IOW, violating the constitution...So, why was Heller so bad...Allowing the citizenery to protect themselves I see as a good thing...
Then why did nobody think that until like 1985?

Not sure I follow, could you elaborate?
 
I just want the fed gov't to follow it's rules- all of them.
You can buy a pee shooter to a 60mm machine gun in the US and you think the rules have been broken?

" The domestic manufacture of new machine guns that civilians could purchase was effectively banned by language in the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 (also known as "McClure-Volkmer"). The language was added in an amendment from William J. Hughes and referred to as the Hughes Amendment. "

.

Sorry Moon, you are incorrect....You can NOT buy a machine gun....

Sure you can but it has been modified so it is not an automatic. I gotz one or two..Check out your class nine dealers. Then learn how to modify the modification, eh...

So, you're admitting to owning an illegal firearm now eh?
Surely you misunderstood what I meant five-o

I did? Did you not post:

"Then learn how to modify the modification"?

So, you're saying you bought an M-60, modified to take away the auto feature, then you undid, or modified it back...That is what you were implying....Now you want to quickly back away from that statement....I would too, knowing the level of surveilence in the interwebs today...
All it takes is a few component adjustments.
 

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