TemplarKormac
Political Atheist
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Wow! That is interesting. This is why I hang out here. I am 73 years old and can always learn something new.
You learn nothing by making assumptions. Please, continue as you were.
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Wow! That is interesting. This is why I hang out here. I am 73 years old and can always learn something new.
if someone is born with the chromosomes and gonads of one gender but the brain structure of another gender. Then what exactly does that mean?
Like I said. Hormones can dictate growth and structure. It tells the cells, and thereby proxy the DNA what to do and how to replicate.
If it's a mere matter of structure, the structure can be corrected. With ethical therapeutics, of course.
Bigotry against homosexuality is not only on one side. But it is mostly on one side. Agree?
No. Bigotry against homosexuality is a universal character flaw.
I don't think that procreation is relevant in a discussion of trans people on a planet that is overpopulated and where transpeople comprise a much smaller percentage of the population than cisgender people who chose to not have childrenGender and species are quite different.If someone thinks they are a cow, which does happen, should surgeons attach a tail?
In some cases that's true. But as far as homo sapiens is concerned, it isn't. Gender is what helps tell our species how to procreate.
Gay marriage, for instance, has some pretty clear divisions among political party.
I pulled some quick charts to demonstrate this but I was under the impression that this was obvious. Maybe it isn’t?
Males are disposable losing some to homoerotic shit is probably good for social cohesion
I can't help but resent that, being male. We are not disposable. Without males, the females are incapable of reproducing. That's science.
Well you need a lot less males than females, which is also science...?
Also why we're generally the disposable gender.
There is no replacing a lost womb. Much easier to produce a lost sire
I have a feeling this is more of a slippery slope than a well-meaning topic of discussion.
Males are disposable losing some to homoerotic shit is probably good for social cohesion
I can't help but resent that, being male. We are not disposable. Without males, the females are incapable of reproducing. That's science.
Well you need a lot less males than females, which is also science...?
Also why we're generally the disposable gender.
There is no replacing a lost womb. Much easier to produce a lost sire
I have a feeling this is more of a slippery slope than a well-meaning topic of discussion.
It's reality
men have little value it's why we kill each other and take the women
Not that complex really.
The opinions of gay marriage are/were influenced by religion, not by political belief. It is an irrational fear of something that does not harm me or you. On the other hand, it doesn't mean the party you're a part of is any more accepting of gay people than the opposing one.
You mislead yourself if you think the Democratic party is one giant amalgam of ideas and beliefs. It isn't. No political party is.
What you see as "obvious" I see as more nuanced and a tad more complex.
The opinions of gay marriage are/were influenced by religion, not by political belief. It is an irrational fear of something that does not harm me or you. On the other hand, it doesn't mean the party you're a part of is any more accepting of gay people than the opposing one.
You mislead yourself if you think the Democratic party is one giant amalgam of ideas and beliefs. It isn't. No political party is.
What you see as "obvious" I see as more nuanced and a tad more complex.
What am I missing here? Looks to me like one party is more accepting of homosexuality than the other.
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What are you missing?
The fact that 54 percent of Rep/Lean Rep think homosexuality should be accepted by society. That's more than half of the Republican party.
Children are being taught this in school and many messed up for life because of it. That is the big issue here.People who disagree with those conditions are being normal are being canceled from society. Children are being taught this and now there is an epidemic of gender confusion in children as a result.It was not long ago that people who thought they were the opposite sex was declared mentally ill by the medical community, as well as those who desired to have sex with their same sex, etc.
I wonder, what scientific breakthrough convinced them it was "normal" and not a disorder?
Anyone?
People through the ages have, at times, called many normal things, abnormal or "mental illness". That doesn't mean they were right.
So who says the Left is right? Who died and made them god over pretty much everything?
Are they being canceled? I kind of think that is the new buzzword. We used to call it "boycotts" and "social pressure" to enact change, like they boycotted Disney because of it's gay friendly policies.
I have never heard of any epidemic of gender confusion.
Who says the right is right? Who died and them god over everything? Who gave them the right to decide who get's to be considered "normal" (part of the in-group" or "abnormal" (that which must be fixed or eradicated)?
What are you missing?
The fact that 54 percent of Rep/Lean Rep think homosexuality should be accepted by society. That's more than half of the Republican party.
Right. Which is much less than the percentage by the Democratic party.
My point being that the left is generally more accepting of homosexuality than the right.
And why are we keeping score? Hatred and bigotry are not unique to any political party. Then again, 54% of the Republican party puts the ax to your stereotypical perceptions of conservative views of homosexuality in general.
Are you so consumed by politics that you can't see human nature for what it is?
> I can say with confidence that I myself am gay.Every now and then, I will post threads beginning with the title "Let me tell you something."
Let me tell you something:
If you "identify" as LGBT, you probably aren't. You either are born that way or you simply aren't. I can say with confidence that I myself am gay. There is a history of that in my family. The indicators are there.
It's the same principle as gender, you're born male or female, identifying as the opposite gender does not make you that gender.
If we extol the sciences to the point of being sacrosanct, then let the science speak on both ends of the ideological spectrum.
That, or don't claim you listen to or respect science. Your choice. But don't lecture me about science if you only pick and choose what parts of it to believe.
(And for those who will undoubtedly bring up climate change: Yes, I believe in climate change, but not in the idea that humans are a direct cause of it. Those views are also backed by science. That is another thread entirely, however. I will not address those arguments here.)
Then go be gay, just don't expect anything more than the same treatment as everyone else.
And why are we keeping score? Hatred and bigotry are not unique to any political party. Then again, 54% of the Republican party puts the ax to your stereotypical perceptions of conservative views of homosexuality in general.
Are you so consumed by politics that you can't see human nature for what it is?
Well my line of questioning stemmed from the fact that you align yourself with a belief system that is much more likely to think less of you, as shown in the charts. That’s why I’m having such a difficult time understanding your position.
I think we can cut it there. I’m not sure if any more value will be gained. I still don’t really get it but thanks for your time.
Have a good one.
Children are being taught this in school and many messed up for life because of it. That is the big issue here.People who disagree with those conditions are being normal are being canceled from society. Children are being taught this and now there is an epidemic of gender confusion in children as a result.It was not long ago that people who thought they were the opposite sex was declared mentally ill by the medical community, as well as those who desired to have sex with their same sex, etc.
I wonder, what scientific breakthrough convinced them it was "normal" and not a disorder?
Anyone?
People through the ages have, at times, called many normal things, abnormal or "mental illness". That doesn't mean they were right.
So who says the Left is right? Who died and made them god over pretty much everything?
Are they being canceled? I kind of think that is the new buzzword. We used to call it "boycotts" and "social pressure" to enact change, like they boycotted Disney because of it's gay friendly policies.
I have never heard of any epidemic of gender confusion.
Who says the right is right? Who died and them god over everything? Who gave them the right to decide who get's to be considered "normal" (part of the in-group" or "abnormal" (that which must be fixed or eradicated)?
So if you don't believe that the gender crap being sold to us is the truth, why are children being indoctrinated with it?
I dunno, but starting a thread about my sexual orientation is not something I would do. Seems irrelevant.Then go be gay, just don't expect anything more than the same treatment as everyone else.
Why would I?