Leftist Squealing As America Re-Emerges!

[PoliticalChic]

My favorite is kicking your sorry ass all over the barely-in-touch-with-reality posts you make. You have a tenuous grasp of history and a selective memory.
You've gotten a little predictable and boring.

Time get some new material.

Seems no one agrees with you.


You remain one of those reliable piñatas that everyone likes kicking aroung.

Didn't you just love how I wiped up the floor with you in this quote:

…the Court now performs in the American system of government a role similar to that performed by the Grand Council of Ayatollahs in the Iranian system: voting takes place and representatives of the people are elected as lawmakers, but the decisions they reach on basic issues of social policy are permitted to prevail only so long as they are not disallowed by the system’s highest authority. The major difference is that the ayatollahs act as a conservative force, while the effect of the Supreme Court’s interventions is almost always—as on every one of the issues just mentioned—to challenge, reverse, and overthrow traditional American practices and values.” Professor Lino Graglia https://www.hoover.org/sites/default/files/uploads/documents/0817946020_1.pdf

 

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#sillyseason.

 

[Turtlesoup]

There is no such concept in any of Amerian founding documents, including the works of Jefferson.

Pay attention, as you have a totally wrong view:


As for the famous “separation of church and state,” the phrase appears in no federal document. In fact, at the time of ratification of the Constitution, ten of the thirteen colonies had some provision recognizing Christianity as either the official, or the recommended religion in their state constitutions.

From the 1790 Massachusetts Constitution, written by John Adams, includes: [the] good order and preservation of civil government essentially depend(s) upon piety, religion, and morality…by the institution of public worship of God and of the public instruction in piety, religion, and morality…”Constitution of Massachusetts - Wikipedia


North Carolina Constitution, article 32, 1776: “That no person who shall deny the being of God, or the truth of the Protestant religion, or the divine authority of either the Old or New Testaments, or who shall hold religious principles incompatible with the freedom and safety of the State, shall b e capable of holding any office, or place of trust or profit, in the civil department, within this State.”
Constitution of North Carolina, 1776



So, the Founders intention was to be sure that the federal government didn’t do the same, and mandate a national religion. And when Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptists in 1802, it was to reassure them the federal government could not interfere in their religious observations, i.e., there is “a wall of separation between church and state.”
A one-way wall that stops government but allow each the liberty of their religious belieffs.


He wasn’t speaking of religion contaminating the government, but of the government contaminating religious observance.




The emasculation of America’s history and heritage can be traced directly to the 32nd President, who wedded America to the world’s greatest homicidal psychopath, and made America comfortable to the neo-Marxism from which we suffer today.

More directly, Franklin Roosevelt made, as his first Supreme Court nominee, KKKer Hugo Black who is responsible for inserting the phrase ‘separation of church and state’ into our judicial protocol.




“…where does that phrase come from? It comes from one brief letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802.At the end of a very long sentence in which Jefferson affirms his conviction that religious belief should be a private matter, and that the government should not interfere with such matters, he uses the phrase “building a wall of separation between Church & State.” And that’s where the phrase lived, undisturbed—lost in Jefferson’s voluminous correspondence—for almost 150 years.”


For context, a Connecticut community of Baptists, admirers of Jefferson, wrote to him about their fear that a federal government would ban their form of worship. The Founders intention was to be sure that the federal government didn’t do that, and mandate a national religion. And when Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptists in 1802, it was to reassure them the federal government could not interfere in their religious observations, i.e., there is “a wall of separation between church and state.” That is a one-way wall: separating government from religion, but not religion from government.

Jefferson was clearly an atheist---who did not believe in the Magic portion of the bible---(he even put together his own bible without the mystical nonsense)-he hid in the closet as he was the only atheist that he knew but worked to keep the church's power out of the government as churches are often just as corrupt if not more so than our politicians. Many of the other founders were agnostics------they to feared the churches having to much power in our government.

 

[Dragonlady]

1. Nearly a century has gone by under the thumb of those who hate the creation of America. In 1937, the bigot/racist who was President, nominateed KKKer Hugo Black to the Supreme Court, and he promplty inserted exactly what any Marxist 'prayed' for: the elimination of religion form the American scene.



2. And here is the source of Hugo Black’s use of the phrase ‘separation of church and state,’ his office in the Ku Klux Klan.
Hugo Black's anti-Catholic bias, which showed up in his actions on the Supreme Court:

"... Black was head of new members for the largest Klan cell in the South. New members of the KKK had to pledge their allegiance to the “eternal separation of Church and State.”... Separation was a crucial part of the KKK’s jurisprudential agenda. It was included in the Klansman’s Creed..."
Hugo Black and the real history of "the wall of separation between church and state"




3. There is nothing in our founding documents that indicates that, and, in fact, the Declaration of Independence there are four references to ‘Divine’ … 1)in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’
2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,”
3) Supreme Judge of the world, and
4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.
This is important because our historic documents memorialize a government based on individuals born with inalienable rights, by, in various references, by the Divine, or Nature’s God, or their Creator, or the Supreme Judge, or divine Providence.


4. The first amendment makes clear that religion should not, can not, be excluded from American life.





5. In its most recent decision, the Supreme Court has put religion back in American life.
"Sotomayor accuses supreme court conservatives of dismantling church-state separation
Liberal justice delivers warning after ruling that state of Maine cannot exclude religious schools from tuition programme

The liberal justice Sonia Sotomayor has warned that the US supreme court is dismantling the wall between church and state, after the conservative majority ruled that the state of Maine cannot exclude religious schools from a tuition programme.
In a dissent to the ruling in Carson v Makin, released on Tuesday, Sotomayor wrote: “This court continues to dismantle the wall of separation between church and state that the framers fought to build.

“… In just a few years, the court has upended constitutional doctrine, shifting from a rule that permits states to decline to fund religious organisations to one that requires states in many circumstances to subsidise religious indoctrination with taxpayer dollars.”
Progressives fear other rulings due this month, among them a case set to bring down Roe v Wade, the 1973 ruling which established the right to abortion, and a ruling on a New York law set to loosen gun regulations even after several horrific mass shootings."

Sotomayor accuses supreme court conservatives of dismantling church-state separation

Liberal justice delivers warning after ruling that state of Maine cannot exclude religious schools from tuition programme

www.theguardian.com

The Founders deliberately separated Church and State because of the issues with "official state religions" in Europe. Instead, they instituted "Freedom of Religion" so that anyone could worship as they saw fit. The LAST thing they wanted was religion being inserted in the laws and government of the USA.

The Founders especially wanted to ensure that religious beliefs not be forced upon anyone. Everything in your post suggests that religion SHOULD be forced on the people. The Puritans fled religious persecution in Europe. The rabid right are hell bent on persecuting those they consider "sinners".

The religion currently being forced upon American women is not in their best interests and they're going to resist.

 

[IM2]

The Founders deliberately separated Church and State because of the issues with "official state religions" in Europe. Instead, they instituted "Freedom of Religion" so that anyone could worship as they saw fit. The LAST thing they wanted was religion being inserted in the laws and government of the USA.

The Founders especially wanted to ensure that religious beliefs be forced upon anyone. Everything in your post suggests that religion SHOULD be forced on the people.

The religion currently being forced upon American women is not in their best interests and they're going to resist.

Poli Chic is supposed to be a woman. But she's here support a loss of rights for women.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The Founders deliberately separated Church and State because of the issues with "official state religions" in Europe. Instead, they instituted "Freedom of Religion" so that anyone could worship as they saw fit. The LAST thing they wanted was religion being inserted in the laws and government of the USA.

The Founders especially wanted to ensure that religious beliefs not be forced upon anyone. Everything in your post suggests that religion SHOULD be forced on the people. The Puritans fled religious persecution in Europe. The rabid right are hell bent on persecuting those they consider "sinners".

The religion currently being forced upon American women is not in their best interests and they're going to resist.

Clearly they did not.

a. The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

b. There is a clear reference to Jesus Christ in the Constitution


c. Thirty-four percent of all the quotes by the founding fathers came from the Bible. Also, men like Blackstone and Locke, whom the founders quoted, took much of their own quotes from the Bible. Our three branches of government came from Isaiah 33:22. Tax exemption for churches came from Ezra 7:24, which no other nation has today. The book of Deuteronomy was the most quoted book of the Bible by our founding fathers. This book deals much with civil government. This is why America was founded as a republic, not a democracy. We are governed by constitutional law, not by majority law. Our founding fathers, who framed the constitution realized that governments of democracy were short lived and ended in bondage. Democracies are only a step from anarchy. http://www.fundamentalfaith.com/id38.htm

d. The first amendment memorializes religion for America evermore.



And....you remain lying scum.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Poli Chic is supposed to be a woman. But she's here support a loss of rights for women.

Please specify what "right" that is.....or admit you are both stupid and a liar.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Jefferson was clearly an atheist---who did not believe in the Magic portion of the bible---(he even put together his own bible without the mystical nonsense)-he hid in the closet as he was the only atheist that he knew but worked to keep the church's power out of the government as churches are often just as corrupt if not more so than our politicians. Many of the other founders were agnostics------they to feared the churches having to much power in our government.

Let's check.

"Like Adams, Thomas Jefferson did not adhere to orthodox doctrine. Yet he often declared himself to be a Christian. “I am a Christian, he said, “in the only sense he [Jesus] wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to his doctrines...”

As one of the leaders of the American Revolution, his views are well known. After all, this is the man who wrote in the Declaration of Independence that “all men… are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” You can’t get a much more explicit statement of belief than that.



These four founders – Washington, Adams, Jefferson and Franklin – were practical men with a sober view of human nature. They understood that man is morally weak and that religion provides the best encouragement and incentive to be good.

It does so, first and foremost, by teaching that choices have consequences. Not necessarily in the here and now, but most certainly in the hereafter – meted out by a just God.


It should come as no surprise, then, that Jefferson, in his second inaugural, asked for, “The favor of that Being in whose hands we are, who led our forefathers, as Israel of old, from their native land.”



And all of them were rooted in the Judeo-Christian values found in the Bible.
“52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” David Limbaugh

 

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The Founders deliberately separated Church and State because of the issues with "official state religions" in Europe. Instead, they instituted "Freedom of Religion" so that anyone could worship as they saw fit. The LAST thing they wanted was religion being inserted in the laws and government of the USA.

The Founders especially wanted to ensure that religious beliefs not be forced upon anyone. Everything in your post suggests that religion SHOULD be forced on the people. The Puritans fled religious persecution in Europe. The rabid right are hell bent on persecuting those they consider "sinners".

The religion currently being forced upon American women is not in their best interests and they're going to resist.

Wrong. No one is forcing anything on anyone. The Supreme Court simply said abortion is a state issue. Dumb ass.