Leftism: Your Overdue Education

[PoliticalChic]

"It matches your Liberals are Nazis, Nazis are Communists insanity."

Be more accurate.

This is what I state:

All six of the 'Sinister Sisters', ....Nazis, Communists, Modern Liberals, Socialists, Progressives and Fascists ...share the same goals, and, to degrees, the same methods.

All are Leftist.
Every one of the Six.



It's true, isn't it.

Progressives and Liberals don't do Nationalism, Xenophobia, Sexism, Racism, or Militarism, therefore they are nothing like Fascists.

And you'd like fascism. Your kind of folks:

They built roads, bridges, and a strong military.
They defended their borders.
They suppressed radicals, liberals, and communists.
They got people back to work.
They supported youth, the church, and family life.
They rallied the nation to national causes.
They repealed gun control laws.
They rejected internationalism.
They suppressed alternate lifestyles such as homosexuality.
They defended traditionalism, etc.

In the words of the Brown Bomber....'you can run, but you can't hide."


You are unable to quote anything Iv'e said,and dispute it.

I just did...

A fib.

There is no quote of mine in any of that.

PC: "All six of the 'Sinister Sisters', ....Nazis, Communists, Modern Liberals, Socialists, Progressives and Fascists ...share the same goals, and, to degrees, the same methods."

Me: Progressives and Liberals don't do Nationalism, Xenophobia, Sexism, Racism, or Militarism, therefore they are nothing like Fascists.

You are a statist, a collectivist, and favor the end of free speech.

Everything is as I stated it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. And the battle is joined!

a. "... PoliticalChic that she not face the truth about Nazis being right wing. As she becomes more and more nazi-like in her beliefs, she has to convince herself that it isn't possible.""
On Tossing Around The Term "Fascist"

Jeezzzz.....not only are there Liberals who are devoid of education...but they happily proclaim it to the world!
The above quote is from one poster...'5000' times more stupid than most, who insists that the Nazis and Communists were at opposite ends of the political spectrum....you know, the usual proaganda- the Nazis and Fascists were 'Rightwing,' while the Communists and Socialists, Leftwing.

Of course, this it is false: all four are Leftwing....as today's lesson will prove.



b. I invited another one of the resident dopes to joust on the topic...and not to be gutless....she posted "Peoples disgust with you does not equal being gutless." Shut up Romney!
Gonna miss ol' Jill.

c. And another big talker that I challenged to this debate..."Your phony political definitions are everywhere every day."
Shut up Romney!
Seems to be another one declining.....ol' Lipsync is gonna be AWOL.




Here is the disagreement : they've imbibed the Kool-Aid, and refuse to accept this fact:
All six of the 'Sinister Sisters', ....Nazis, Communists, Modern Liberals, Socialists, Progressives and Fascists ...share the same goals, and, to degrees, the same methods.
All are Leftist.
Every one of the Six.




2. So...today....an exegesis with Benito Mussolini as the vehicle, one which will illustrate his connections with the network of Leftists, the amalgamation of the six anti-liberty doctrines.


David Ramsay Steele wrote an erudite essay on Fascism, focusing on Mussolini. I'll use this and other sources.
And, right from the start, notice the references right from the start, the personification of Fascism, Mussolini, and his affinity for Karl Marx...

Arriving "in Switzerland in 1902, 18 years old and looking for work, Benito Mussolini was starving and penniless. All he had in his pockets was a cheap nickel medallion of Karl Marx.

... achieving fame as an agitator among the Italian migratory laborers, he was referred to by a local Italian-language newspaper as "the great duce [leader] of the Italian socialists."
The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

At the forefront we find Fascism, Marxism, and Socialism.....


Good start?



(...are the Democrats starting to worry, with a Marxist-Socialist running as their presidential nominee??
Ya' think?)

You do realize that most modern academics don't look on a 1-dimensional spectrum to classify political ideologies right? Just by trying to work on that outdated model speaks to the fact that you have no clue what you are talking about.

You do realize that everything I posted is correct, accurate and true.

Beyond that, you may conclude as you wish.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Tell ya what PC, and you'll have to think on this, what did the Nazis actually do that you think liberals would approve of?

You mean that FDR wouldn't approve of concentration camps for his own citizens?

Oh...wait.....

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Progressives and Liberals don't do Nationalism, Xenophobia, Sexism, Racism, or Militarism, therefore they are nothing like Fascists.

And you'd like fascism. Your kind of folks:

They built roads, bridges, and a strong military.
They defended their borders.
They suppressed radicals, liberals, and communists.
They got people back to work.
They supported youth, the church, and family life.
They rallied the nation to national causes.
They repealed gun control laws.
They rejected internationalism.
They suppressed alternate lifestyles such as homosexuality.
They defended traditionalism, etc.

In the words of the Brown Bomber....'you can run, but you can't hide."


You are unable to quote anything Iv'e said,and dispute it.

I just did...

A fib.

There is no quote of mine in any of that.

PC: "All six of the 'Sinister Sisters', ....Nazis, Communists, Modern Liberals, Socialists, Progressives and Fascists ...share the same goals, and, to degrees, the same methods."

Me: Progressives and Liberals don't do Nationalism, Xenophobia, Sexism, Racism, or Militarism, therefore they are nothing like Fascists.

You are a statist, a collectivist, and favor the end of free speech.

Everything is as I stated it.

Nope.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Tell ya what PC, and you'll have to think on this, what did the Nazis actually do that you think liberals would approve of?

You mean that FDR wouldn't approve of concentration camps for his own citizens?

Oh...wait.....

Not FDR, the Nazis. What would liberals have approved of? Item by item...

 

[PoliticalChic]

As I stated at the start, Benito Mussolini is an excellent hub for the circle, as he is doctrinally related to all of the shameful Leftist political philosophies....


Mussolini is an excellent example of the cross references and associationships between all of the Leftist ideologies.


10. "In 1913, while still editor of Avanti!, he began to publish and edit his own journal,Utopia, a forum for controversial discussion among leftwing socialists. ...Two of those who collaborated with Mussolini on Utopia would go on to help found the Italian Communist Party and one to help found the German Communist Party.(3)Others, with Mussolini, would found the Fascist movement.

The youngest prime minister in Italian history,.... Mussolini was showered with accolades from sundry quarters.... Stalin supplied Mussolini with the plans of the May Day parades in Red Square, to help him polish up his Fascist pageants....He conquered Ethiopia, made a Pact of Steel with Germany, introduced anti-Jewish measures in 1938,came into the war as Hitler's very junior partner,..." The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele


So....here we see Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin....good ol' pals.
FDR was a wanna-be in that clique...


Communism, Nazism, Fascism, Modern Liberalism, Progressivism, or Socialism....


QED....Any who would deny that every one of these is Leftist, is clearly uneducated, uninformed, or a bald-faced liar.

 

[PoliticalChic]

In the words of the Brown Bomber....'you can run, but you can't hide."


You are unable to quote anything Iv'e said,and dispute it.

I just did...

A fib.

There is no quote of mine in any of that.

PC: "All six of the 'Sinister Sisters', ....Nazis, Communists, Modern Liberals, Socialists, Progressives and Fascists ...share the same goals, and, to degrees, the same methods."

Me: Progressives and Liberals don't do Nationalism, Xenophobia, Sexism, Racism, or Militarism, therefore they are nothing like Fascists.

You are a statist, a collectivist, and favor the end of free speech.

Everything is as I stated it.

Nope.

Yup.

 

[Never3ndr]

1. And the battle is joined!

a. "... PoliticalChic that she not face the truth about Nazis being right wing. As she becomes more and more nazi-like in her beliefs, she has to convince herself that it isn't possible.""
On Tossing Around The Term "Fascist"

Jeezzzz.....not only are there Liberals who are devoid of education...but they happily proclaim it to the world!
The above quote is from one poster...'5000' times more stupid than most, who insists that the Nazis and Communists were at opposite ends of the political spectrum....you know, the usual proaganda- the Nazis and Fascists were 'Rightwing,' while the Communists and Socialists, Leftwing.

Of course, this it is false: all four are Leftwing....as today's lesson will prove.



b. I invited another one of the resident dopes to joust on the topic...and not to be gutless....she posted "Peoples disgust with you does not equal being gutless." Shut up Romney!
Gonna miss ol' Jill.

c. And another big talker that I challenged to this debate..."Your phony political definitions are everywhere every day."
Shut up Romney!
Seems to be another one declining.....ol' Lipsync is gonna be AWOL.




Here is the disagreement : they've imbibed the Kool-Aid, and refuse to accept this fact:
All six of the 'Sinister Sisters', ....Nazis, Communists, Modern Liberals, Socialists, Progressives and Fascists ...share the same goals, and, to degrees, the same methods.
All are Leftist.
Every one of the Six.




2. So...today....an exegesis with Benito Mussolini as the vehicle, one which will illustrate his connections with the network of Leftists, the amalgamation of the six anti-liberty doctrines.


David Ramsay Steele wrote an erudite essay on Fascism, focusing on Mussolini. I'll use this and other sources.
And, right from the start, notice the references right from the start, the personification of Fascism, Mussolini, and his affinity for Karl Marx...

Arriving "in Switzerland in 1902, 18 years old and looking for work, Benito Mussolini was starving and penniless. All he had in his pockets was a cheap nickel medallion of Karl Marx.

... achieving fame as an agitator among the Italian migratory laborers, he was referred to by a local Italian-language newspaper as "the great duce [leader] of the Italian socialists."
The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

At the forefront we find Fascism, Marxism, and Socialism.....


Good start?



(...are the Democrats starting to worry, with a Marxist-Socialist running as their presidential nominee??
Ya' think?)

You do realize that most modern academics don't look on a 1-dimensional spectrum to classify political ideologies right? Just by trying to work on that outdated model speaks to the fact that you have no clue what you are talking about.

You do realize that everything I posted is correct, accurate and true.

Beyond that, you may conclude as you wish.

If you really think that, then please explain what current model of political analysis / classification system you are using, whether it is one, two, or three dimensional, the axis of your dimensions and what they represent, and why all these extreme political ideologies fall on the "left" side, and what, exactly that means.

Also, as it appears you are using a 1-dimensional model please write a detailed response justifying why you are using a model that is considered outdated by most modern academics as it pigeonholes different aspects of vastly different ideologies onto a line where they aren't properly represented.

I'm asking you to establish these basics because, as I've stated, it appears, from your post, that you don't even grasp the basics of politics and generally look at biased sources / google things that agree with your pre-established belief set. I've literally seen nothing from academic work classifying anything on a 1-dimensional scale since like grade school.

Edit: Also, as your topic is on education, I'm certainly interested in being educated. I'm open to the fact that it has been a bit since I've done my college coursework and that I'm not always in touch with the academic community. As such, I'm simply asking you to build your "education" from an established base set that seems so counter to theory I've been exposed to in higher coursework.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Tell ya what PC, and you'll have to think on this, what did the Nazis actually do that you think liberals would approve of?

You mean that FDR wouldn't approve of concentration camps for his own citizens?

Oh...wait.....

Not FDR, the Nazis. What would liberals have approved of? Item by item...

FDR was a Liberal.

And he approved of concentration camps for his very own citizens.


BTW.....know where Hitler got the know-how for concentration camps?
From his ally, Joseph Stalin.

Two Leftists.


"The Soviet NKVD trained the SS, taught them how to build concentration camps, as they had been operating for 20 years before the origin of the Nazis." Viktor Suvorov, former Soviet Military Intelligence Officer. "According to Suvorov,Stalinplanned to useNazi Germanyas a proxy (the “Icebreaker”) against the West. For this reason Stalin provided significant material and political support toAdolf Hitler, while at the same time preparing theRed Armyto “liberate” the whole ofEuropefrom Nazi occupation."
Viktor Suvorov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You never knew that, did you.




Now.....admit it: you're amazed at how much I teach you...

This is simply more of your overdue education.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. And the battle is joined!

a. "... PoliticalChic that she not face the truth about Nazis being right wing. As she becomes more and more nazi-like in her beliefs, she has to convince herself that it isn't possible.""
On Tossing Around The Term "Fascist"

Jeezzzz.....not only are there Liberals who are devoid of education...but they happily proclaim it to the world!
The above quote is from one poster...'5000' times more stupid than most, who insists that the Nazis and Communists were at opposite ends of the political spectrum....you know, the usual proaganda- the Nazis and Fascists were 'Rightwing,' while the Communists and Socialists, Leftwing.

Of course, this it is false: all four are Leftwing....as today's lesson will prove.



b. I invited another one of the resident dopes to joust on the topic...and not to be gutless....she posted "Peoples disgust with you does not equal being gutless." Shut up Romney!
Gonna miss ol' Jill.

c. And another big talker that I challenged to this debate..."Your phony political definitions are everywhere every day."
Shut up Romney!
Seems to be another one declining.....ol' Lipsync is gonna be AWOL.




Here is the disagreement : they've imbibed the Kool-Aid, and refuse to accept this fact:
All six of the 'Sinister Sisters', ....Nazis, Communists, Modern Liberals, Socialists, Progressives and Fascists ...share the same goals, and, to degrees, the same methods.
All are Leftist.
Every one of the Six.




2. So...today....an exegesis with Benito Mussolini as the vehicle, one which will illustrate his connections with the network of Leftists, the amalgamation of the six anti-liberty doctrines.


David Ramsay Steele wrote an erudite essay on Fascism, focusing on Mussolini. I'll use this and other sources.
And, right from the start, notice the references right from the start, the personification of Fascism, Mussolini, and his affinity for Karl Marx...

Arriving "in Switzerland in 1902, 18 years old and looking for work, Benito Mussolini was starving and penniless. All he had in his pockets was a cheap nickel medallion of Karl Marx.

... achieving fame as an agitator among the Italian migratory laborers, he was referred to by a local Italian-language newspaper as "the great duce [leader] of the Italian socialists."
The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

At the forefront we find Fascism, Marxism, and Socialism.....


Good start?



(...are the Democrats starting to worry, with a Marxist-Socialist running as their presidential nominee??
Ya' think?)

You do realize that most modern academics don't look on a 1-dimensional spectrum to classify political ideologies right? Just by trying to work on that outdated model speaks to the fact that you have no clue what you are talking about.

You do realize that everything I posted is correct, accurate and true.

Beyond that, you may conclude as you wish.

If you really think that, then please explain what current model of political analysis / classification system you are using, whether it is one, two, or three dimensional, the axis of your dimensions and what they represent, and why all these extreme political ideologies fall on the "left" side, and what, exactly that means.

Also, as it appears you are using a 1-dimensional model please write a detailed response justifying why you are using a model that is considered outdated by most modern academics as it pigeonholes different aspects of vastly different ideologies onto a line where they aren't properly represented.

I'm asking you to establish these basics because, as I've stated, it appears, from your post, that you don't even grasp the basics of politics and generally look at biased sources / google things that agree with your pre-established belief set. I've literally seen nothing from academic work classifying anything on a 1-dimensional scale since like grade school.

Edit: Also, as your topic is on education, I'm certainly interested in being educated. I'm open to the fact that it has been a bit since I've done my college coursework and that I'm not always in touch with the academic community. As such, I'm simply asking you to build your "education" from an established base set that seems so counter to theory I've been exposed to in higher coursework.

This is what I posted...to you:
"You do realize that everything I posted is correct, accurate and true."

Why did you ignore it?

Oh....because it is totally correct...and you can't dispute anything I've posted.

And, further....once you admit that, my conclusion is ironclad.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I just did...

A fib.

There is no quote of mine in any of that.

PC: "All six of the 'Sinister Sisters', ....Nazis, Communists, Modern Liberals, Socialists, Progressives and Fascists ...share the same goals, and, to degrees, the same methods."

Me: Progressives and Liberals don't do Nationalism, Xenophobia, Sexism, Racism, or Militarism, therefore they are nothing like Fascists.

You are a statist, a collectivist, and favor the end of free speech.

Everything is as I stated it.

Nope.

Yup.

Prove it? Oh right, you can't...

 

[Never3ndr]

1. And the battle is joined!

a. "... PoliticalChic that she not face the truth about Nazis being right wing. As she becomes more and more nazi-like in her beliefs, she has to convince herself that it isn't possible.""
On Tossing Around The Term "Fascist"

Jeezzzz.....not only are there Liberals who are devoid of education...but they happily proclaim it to the world!
The above quote is from one poster...'5000' times more stupid than most, who insists that the Nazis and Communists were at opposite ends of the political spectrum....you know, the usual proaganda- the Nazis and Fascists were 'Rightwing,' while the Communists and Socialists, Leftwing.

Of course, this it is false: all four are Leftwing....as today's lesson will prove.



b. I invited another one of the resident dopes to joust on the topic...and not to be gutless....she posted "Peoples disgust with you does not equal being gutless." Shut up Romney!
Gonna miss ol' Jill.

c. And another big talker that I challenged to this debate..."Your phony political definitions are everywhere every day."
Shut up Romney!
Seems to be another one declining.....ol' Lipsync is gonna be AWOL.




Here is the disagreement : they've imbibed the Kool-Aid, and refuse to accept this fact:
All six of the 'Sinister Sisters', ....Nazis, Communists, Modern Liberals, Socialists, Progressives and Fascists ...share the same goals, and, to degrees, the same methods.
All are Leftist.
Every one of the Six.




2. So...today....an exegesis with Benito Mussolini as the vehicle, one which will illustrate his connections with the network of Leftists, the amalgamation of the six anti-liberty doctrines.


David Ramsay Steele wrote an erudite essay on Fascism, focusing on Mussolini. I'll use this and other sources.
And, right from the start, notice the references right from the start, the personification of Fascism, Mussolini, and his affinity for Karl Marx...

Arriving "in Switzerland in 1902, 18 years old and looking for work, Benito Mussolini was starving and penniless. All he had in his pockets was a cheap nickel medallion of Karl Marx.

... achieving fame as an agitator among the Italian migratory laborers, he was referred to by a local Italian-language newspaper as "the great duce [leader] of the Italian socialists."
The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

At the forefront we find Fascism, Marxism, and Socialism.....


Good start?



(...are the Democrats starting to worry, with a Marxist-Socialist running as their presidential nominee??
Ya' think?)

You do realize that most modern academics don't look on a 1-dimensional spectrum to classify political ideologies right? Just by trying to work on that outdated model speaks to the fact that you have no clue what you are talking about.

You do realize that everything I posted is correct, accurate and true.

Beyond that, you may conclude as you wish.

If you really think that, then please explain what current model of political analysis / classification system you are using, whether it is one, two, or three dimensional, the axis of your dimensions and what they represent, and why all these extreme political ideologies fall on the "left" side, and what, exactly that means.

Also, as it appears you are using a 1-dimensional model please write a detailed response justifying why you are using a model that is considered outdated by most modern academics as it pigeonholes different aspects of vastly different ideologies onto a line where they aren't properly represented.

I'm asking you to establish these basics because, as I've stated, it appears, from your post, that you don't even grasp the basics of politics and generally look at biased sources / google things that agree with your pre-established belief set. I've literally seen nothing from academic work classifying anything on a 1-dimensional scale since like grade school.

Edit: Also, as your topic is on education, I'm certainly interested in being educated. I'm open to the fact that it has been a bit since I've done my college coursework and that I'm not always in touch with the academic community. As such, I'm simply asking you to build your "education" from an established base set that seems so counter to theory I've been exposed to in higher coursework.

This is what I posted...to you:
"You do realize that everything I posted is correct, accurate and true."

Why did you ignore it?

Oh....because it is totally correct...and you can't dispute anything I've posted.

And, further....once you admit that, my conclusion is ironclad.

Ah, sorry I didn't know it was a troll account.

Well played sir, well played.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Tell ya what PC, and you'll have to think on this, what did the Nazis actually do that you think liberals would approve of?

You mean that FDR wouldn't approve of concentration camps for his own citizens?

Oh...wait.....

Not FDR, the Nazis. What would liberals have approved of? Item by item...

FDR was a Liberal.

And he approved of concentration camps for his very own citizens.


BTW.....know where Hitler got the know-how for concentration camps?
From his ally, Joseph Stalin.

Two Leftists.


"The Soviet NKVD trained the SS, taught them how to build concentration camps, as they had been operating for 20 years before the origin of the Nazis." Viktor Suvorov, former Soviet Military Intelligence Officer. "According to Suvorov,Stalinplanned to useNazi Germanyas a proxy (the “Icebreaker”) against the West. For this reason Stalin provided significant material and political support toAdolf Hitler, while at the same time preparing theRed Armyto “liberate” the whole ofEuropefrom Nazi occupation."
Viktor Suvorov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You never knew that, did you.




Now.....admit it: you're amazed at how much I teach you...

This is simply more of your overdue education.

Either post what Liberals would like about the Nazis or you lose, as usual.

 

[PoliticalChic]

A fib.

There is no quote of mine in any of that.

PC: "All six of the 'Sinister Sisters', ....Nazis, Communists, Modern Liberals, Socialists, Progressives and Fascists ...share the same goals, and, to degrees, the same methods."

Me: Progressives and Liberals don't do Nationalism, Xenophobia, Sexism, Racism, or Militarism, therefore they are nothing like Fascists.

You are a statist, a collectivist, and favor the end of free speech.

Everything is as I stated it.

Nope.

Yup.

Prove it? Oh right, you can't...

Prove what?

That you oppose free speech, as is the wont of Leftists?

No prob:


"Think stupid, talk stupid, and we bury you, for your own good." The Liberal Commitment.....

And this:

Yep, and free speech is how we discover you need to be dropped into the sea,.... Anti-Gay Stickers At High School In Indio Touch Off Debate



Both quotes of yours.

 

[Searcher44]

1. And the battle is joined!

a. "... PoliticalChic that she not face the truth about Nazis being right wing. As she becomes more and more nazi-like in her beliefs, she has to convince herself that it isn't possible.""
On Tossing Around The Term "Fascist"

Jeezzzz.....not only are there Liberals who are devoid of education...but they happily proclaim it to the world!
The above quote is from one poster...'5000' times more stupid than most, who insists that the Nazis and Communists were at opposite ends of the political spectrum....you know, the usual proaganda- the Nazis and Fascists were 'Rightwing,' while the Communists and Socialists, Leftwing.

Of course, this it is false: all four are Leftwing....as today's lesson will prove.



b. I invited another one of the resident dopes to joust on the topic...and not to be gutless....she posted "Peoples disgust with you does not equal being gutless." Shut up Romney!
Gonna miss ol' Jill.

c. And another big talker that I challenged to this debate..."Your phony political definitions are everywhere every day."
Shut up Romney!
Seems to be another one declining.....ol' Lipsync is gonna be AWOL.




Here is the disagreement : they've imbibed the Kool-Aid, and refuse to accept this fact:
All six of the 'Sinister Sisters', ....Nazis, Communists, Modern Liberals, Socialists, Progressives and Fascists ...share the same goals, and, to degrees, the same methods.
All are Leftist.
Every one of the Six.




2. So...today....an exegesis with Benito Mussolini as the vehicle, one which will illustrate his connections with the network of Leftists, the amalgamation of the six anti-liberty doctrines.


David Ramsay Steele wrote an erudite essay on Fascism, focusing on Mussolini. I'll use this and other sources.
And, right from the start, notice the references right from the start, the personification of Fascism, Mussolini, and his affinity for Karl Marx...

Arriving "in Switzerland in 1902, 18 years old and looking for work, Benito Mussolini was starving and penniless. All he had in his pockets was a cheap nickel medallion of Karl Marx.

... achieving fame as an agitator among the Italian migratory laborers, he was referred to by a local Italian-language newspaper as "the great duce [leader] of the Italian socialists."
The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

At the forefront we find Fascism, Marxism, and Socialism.....


Good start?



(...are the Democrats starting to worry, with a Marxist-Socialist running as their presidential nominee??
Ya' think?)

You must think you have such powers of faith if you keep beating this dead horse one of these times a miracle will occur and like Lazarus it will arise from its tomb. As I've said before your ability to connect historical dots is on par with a three year old attempting to understand General Relativity. At least you pick the right starting point to examine the topic, Benito Mussolini was the Founding Father of Fascism. Benito was a born bully, expelled from several schools for fighting, the last time for actually stabbing a fellow student with a pocket knife. I don't have much time this morning so I can only give you the broad strokes right now. So pay attention.
Let's start with the testimony of someone who you should consider credible, someone who occupies that far right side of the political spectrum you stubbornly inhabit. Michael Ledeen, Freedom scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, that bastion of Conservative "thought". I watched him debate someone who tries to make the same stretch of logic you do in linking Fascism and Socialism. Ledeen says "... yes, many of the founders of Italian Fascists started out on the left but where they ended up "...[ I ] wouldn't call left, [ I ] wouldn't call the fascist state "left"....anymore than I [Leddeen] would call the Third Reich left. All these people came from the left, Hitler, Mussolini etc. but they were ex-Leftists" Are you following the thread here? Mussolini was too extreme for the Italian socialists, he was a violent pro-war psychopath who came out of WWl enraged at Italy's humiliation in that war. Mussolini came to see himself as a modern Caeser destined to return to Italy the glories of Rome. Most Italian socialists were pacifists as a lot of socialists everywhere are today. This is where the division of Fascism and Socialism starts and your grasp of History ends. Try real hard to understand this simple concept, Mussolini, the founder of Fascism came to hate Socialism and Communism. One of the principles at the heart of Mussolini's Fascism was private property and an alliance with corporatists. This is real history, this is part of what makes your equating of these two ideologies a demonstration of ignorance or outright deceit. His blackshirt thugs in the early twenties beat and battled and murdered Socialists as he pursued power through unending, unconstrained violence. Damn, I have to run. I won't be long and if this nonsense still engages me when I get back I might continue your education. I'd probably get to that great admirer and imitator of Benito, a fellow psychopath enraged by Germany's humiliation in WWl., Adolf Hitler.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. And the battle is joined!

a. "... PoliticalChic that she not face the truth about Nazis being right wing. As she becomes more and more nazi-like in her beliefs, she has to convince herself that it isn't possible.""
On Tossing Around The Term "Fascist"

Jeezzzz.....not only are there Liberals who are devoid of education...but they happily proclaim it to the world!
The above quote is from one poster...'5000' times more stupid than most, who insists that the Nazis and Communists were at opposite ends of the political spectrum....you know, the usual proaganda- the Nazis and Fascists were 'Rightwing,' while the Communists and Socialists, Leftwing.

Of course, this it is false: all four are Leftwing....as today's lesson will prove.



b. I invited another one of the resident dopes to joust on the topic...and not to be gutless....she posted "Peoples disgust with you does not equal being gutless." Shut up Romney!
Gonna miss ol' Jill.

c. And another big talker that I challenged to this debate..."Your phony political definitions are everywhere every day."
Shut up Romney!
Seems to be another one declining.....ol' Lipsync is gonna be AWOL.




Here is the disagreement : they've imbibed the Kool-Aid, and refuse to accept this fact:
All six of the 'Sinister Sisters', ....Nazis, Communists, Modern Liberals, Socialists, Progressives and Fascists ...share the same goals, and, to degrees, the same methods.
All are Leftist.
Every one of the Six.




2. So...today....an exegesis with Benito Mussolini as the vehicle, one which will illustrate his connections with the network of Leftists, the amalgamation of the six anti-liberty doctrines.


David Ramsay Steele wrote an erudite essay on Fascism, focusing on Mussolini. I'll use this and other sources.
And, right from the start, notice the references right from the start, the personification of Fascism, Mussolini, and his affinity for Karl Marx...

Arriving "in Switzerland in 1902, 18 years old and looking for work, Benito Mussolini was starving and penniless. All he had in his pockets was a cheap nickel medallion of Karl Marx.

... achieving fame as an agitator among the Italian migratory laborers, he was referred to by a local Italian-language newspaper as "the great duce [leader] of the Italian socialists."
The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

At the forefront we find Fascism, Marxism, and Socialism.....


Good start?



(...are the Democrats starting to worry, with a Marxist-Socialist running as their presidential nominee??
Ya' think?)

You do realize that most modern academics don't look on a 1-dimensional spectrum to classify political ideologies right? Just by trying to work on that outdated model speaks to the fact that you have no clue what you are talking about.

You do realize that everything I posted is correct, accurate and true.

Beyond that, you may conclude as you wish.

If you really think that, then please explain what current model of political analysis / classification system you are using, whether it is one, two, or three dimensional, the axis of your dimensions and what they represent, and why all these extreme political ideologies fall on the "left" side, and what, exactly that means.

Also, as it appears you are using a 1-dimensional model please write a detailed response justifying why you are using a model that is considered outdated by most modern academics as it pigeonholes different aspects of vastly different ideologies onto a line where they aren't properly represented.

I'm asking you to establish these basics because, as I've stated, it appears, from your post, that you don't even grasp the basics of politics and generally look at biased sources / google things that agree with your pre-established belief set. I've literally seen nothing from academic work classifying anything on a 1-dimensional scale since like grade school.

Edit: Also, as your topic is on education, I'm certainly interested in being educated. I'm open to the fact that it has been a bit since I've done my college coursework and that I'm not always in touch with the academic community. As such, I'm simply asking you to build your "education" from an established base set that seems so counter to theory I've been exposed to in higher coursework.

This is what I posted...to you:
"You do realize that everything I posted is correct, accurate and true."

Why did you ignore it?

Oh....because it is totally correct...and you can't dispute anything I've posted.

And, further....once you admit that, my conclusion is ironclad.

Ah, sorry I didn't know it was a troll account.

Well played sir, well played.

I never use the term 'troll'....

I only use words I can define....but it seems 'troll' means folks that I disagree with, but can't find a cogent way to answer them.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

PC: "All six of the 'Sinister Sisters', ....Nazis, Communists, Modern Liberals, Socialists, Progressives and Fascists ...share the same goals, and, to degrees, the same methods."

Me: Progressives and Liberals don't do Nationalism, Xenophobia, Sexism, Racism, or Militarism, therefore they are nothing like Fascists.

You are a statist, a collectivist, and favor the end of free speech.

Everything is as I stated it.

Nope.

Yup.

Prove it? Oh right, you can't...

Prove what?

That you oppose free speech, as is the wont of Leftists?

No prob:


"Think stupid, talk stupid, and we bury you, for your own good." The Liberal Commitment.....

And this:

Yep, and free speech is how we discover you need to be dropped into the sea,.... Anti-Gay Stickers At High School In Indio Touch Off Debate



Both quotes of yours.

Funny, in both cases I defend free speech. It's a liberal thing.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. And the battle is joined!

a. "... PoliticalChic that she not face the truth about Nazis being right wing. As she becomes more and more nazi-like in her beliefs, she has to convince herself that it isn't possible.""
On Tossing Around The Term "Fascist"

Jeezzzz.....not only are there Liberals who are devoid of education...but they happily proclaim it to the world!
The above quote is from one poster...'5000' times more stupid than most, who insists that the Nazis and Communists were at opposite ends of the political spectrum....you know, the usual proaganda- the Nazis and Fascists were 'Rightwing,' while the Communists and Socialists, Leftwing.

Of course, this it is false: all four are Leftwing....as today's lesson will prove.



b. I invited another one of the resident dopes to joust on the topic...and not to be gutless....she posted "Peoples disgust with you does not equal being gutless." Shut up Romney!
Gonna miss ol' Jill.

c. And another big talker that I challenged to this debate..."Your phony political definitions are everywhere every day."
Shut up Romney!
Seems to be another one declining.....ol' Lipsync is gonna be AWOL.




Here is the disagreement : they've imbibed the Kool-Aid, and refuse to accept this fact:
All six of the 'Sinister Sisters', ....Nazis, Communists, Modern Liberals, Socialists, Progressives and Fascists ...share the same goals, and, to degrees, the same methods.
All are Leftist.
Every one of the Six.




2. So...today....an exegesis with Benito Mussolini as the vehicle, one which will illustrate his connections with the network of Leftists, the amalgamation of the six anti-liberty doctrines.


David Ramsay Steele wrote an erudite essay on Fascism, focusing on Mussolini. I'll use this and other sources.
And, right from the start, notice the references right from the start, the personification of Fascism, Mussolini, and his affinity for Karl Marx...

Arriving "in Switzerland in 1902, 18 years old and looking for work, Benito Mussolini was starving and penniless. All he had in his pockets was a cheap nickel medallion of Karl Marx.

... achieving fame as an agitator among the Italian migratory laborers, he was referred to by a local Italian-language newspaper as "the great duce [leader] of the Italian socialists."
The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

At the forefront we find Fascism, Marxism, and Socialism.....


Good start?



(...are the Democrats starting to worry, with a Marxist-Socialist running as their presidential nominee??
Ya' think?)

You must think you have such powers of faith if you keep beating this dead horse one of these times a miracle will occur and like Lazarus it will arise from its tomb. As I've said before your ability to connect historical dots is on par with a three year old attempting to understand General Relativity. At least you pick the right starting point to examine the topic, Benito Mussolini was the Founding Father of Fascism. Benito was a born bully, expelled from several schools for fighting, the last time for actually stabbing a fellow student with a pocket knife. I don't have much time this morning so I can only give you the broad strokes right now. So pay attention.
Let's start with the testimony of someone who you should consider credible, someone who occupies that far right side of the political spectrum you stubbornly inhabit. Michael Ledeen, Freedom scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, that bastion of Conservative "thought". I watched him debate someone who tries to make the same stretch of logic you do in linking Fascism and Socialism. Ledeen says "... yes, many of the founders of Italian Fascists started out on the left but where they ended up "...[ I ] wouldn't call left, [ I ] wouldn't call the fascist state "left"....anymore than I [Leddeen] would call the Third Reich left. All these people came from the left, Hitler, Mussolini etc. but they were ex-Leftists" Are you following the thread here? Mussolini was too extreme for the Italian socialists, he was a violent pro-war psychopath who came out of WWl enraged at Italy's humiliation in that war. Mussolini came to see himself as a modern Caeser destined to return to Italy the glories of Rome. Most Italian socialists were pacifists as a lot of socialists everywhere are today. This is where the division of Fascism and Socialism starts and your grasp of History ends. Try real hard to understand this simple concept, Mussolini, the founder of Fascism came to hate Socialism and Communism. One of the principles at the heart of Mussolini's Fascism was private property and an alliance with corporatists. This is real history, this is part of what makes your equating of these two ideologies a demonstration of ignorance or outright deceit. His blackshirt thugs in the early twenties beat and battled and murdered Socialists as he pursued power through unending, unconstrained violence. Damn, I have to run. I won't be long and if this nonsense still engages me when I get back I might continue your education. I'd probably get to that great admirer and imitator of Benito, a fellow psychopath enraged by Germany's humiliation in WWl., Adolf Hitler.

Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.


In your face, you dolt.....
...You're so dense that light bends around you.

 

[Never3ndr]

You do realize that most modern academics don't look on a 1-dimensional spectrum to classify political ideologies right? Just by trying to work on that outdated model speaks to the fact that you have no clue what you are talking about.

You do realize that everything I posted is correct, accurate and true.

Beyond that, you may conclude as you wish.

If you really think that, then please explain what current model of political analysis / classification system you are using, whether it is one, two, or three dimensional, the axis of your dimensions and what they represent, and why all these extreme political ideologies fall on the "left" side, and what, exactly that means.

Also, as it appears you are using a 1-dimensional model please write a detailed response justifying why you are using a model that is considered outdated by most modern academics as it pigeonholes different aspects of vastly different ideologies onto a line where they aren't properly represented.

I'm asking you to establish these basics because, as I've stated, it appears, from your post, that you don't even grasp the basics of politics and generally look at biased sources / google things that agree with your pre-established belief set. I've literally seen nothing from academic work classifying anything on a 1-dimensional scale since like grade school.

Edit: Also, as your topic is on education, I'm certainly interested in being educated. I'm open to the fact that it has been a bit since I've done my college coursework and that I'm not always in touch with the academic community. As such, I'm simply asking you to build your "education" from an established base set that seems so counter to theory I've been exposed to in higher coursework.

This is what I posted...to you:
"You do realize that everything I posted is correct, accurate and true."

Why did you ignore it?

Oh....because it is totally correct...and you can't dispute anything I've posted.

And, further....once you admit that, my conclusion is ironclad.

Ah, sorry I didn't know it was a troll account.

Well played sir, well played.

I never use the term 'troll'....

I only use words I can define....but it seems 'troll' means folks that I disagree with, but can't find a cogent way to answer them.

I literally disputed your basic understanding of political classification...which is one of the underpinnings of your argument but you said that I didn't dispute anything.

So....

 

[PoliticalChic]

You are a statist, a collectivist, and favor the end of free speech.

Everything is as I stated it.

Nope.

Yup.

Prove it? Oh right, you can't...

Prove what?

That you oppose free speech, as is the wont of Leftists?

No prob:


"Think stupid, talk stupid, and we bury you, for your own good." The Liberal Commitment.....

And this:

Yep, and free speech is how we discover you need to be dropped into the sea,.... Anti-Gay Stickers At High School In Indio Touch Off Debate



Both quotes of yours.

Funny, in both cases I defend free speech. It's a liberal thing.

No you don't.

It's a lie, based your embarrassment at being revealed as the Fascist you are.