Harry Dresden
Adamantium Member
I don't see her as a liar or a hypocrite.
why am i not surprised?.....

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I don't see her as a liar or a hypocrite.
Except she's not far left.
thats a matter of opinion Sallow.....i think she is pretty far to the left.....its people like her that drove me out of the Democratic party in the early nineties.....
Except she's not far left.
thats a matter of opinion Sallow.....i think she is pretty far to the left.....its people like her that drove me out of the Democratic party in the early nineties.....
Of course it is..
But I base my parameters on the variables I've seen over most of the 50 years of my life. And what was considered far right some 30 years ago..now seems to the "center". The Birchers may have went on and on about how John F. Kennedy was a man beholdened to the Pope and a communist (A neat trick!) but no one took them seriously. Now President Obama is a foreign born/muslim/communist (A neat trick!) and mainstream serious contenders for the Presidency on the right are "parroting" the same view.
thats a matter of opinion Sallow.....i think she is pretty far to the left.....its people like her that drove me out of the Democratic party in the early nineties.....
Of course it is..
But I base my parameters on the variables I've seen over most of the 50 years of my life. And what was considered far right some 30 years ago..now seems to the "center". The Birchers may have went on and on about how John F. Kennedy was a man beholdened to the Pope and a communist (A neat trick!) but no one took them seriously. Now President Obama is a foreign born/muslim/communist (A neat trick!) and mainstream serious contenders for the Presidency on the right are "parroting" the same view.
They don't exactly parrot it, but they don't deny it either...
There are questions.....
She was and is a tough and successful legislator. Which is why she is so vehmently hated on the right.
I have to disagree with you. It has nothing to do with whether or not she is either tough or successful. It has everything to do with the stances she takes.
Edit: In other words, if she were a conservative things would be different.
Immie
She was and is a tough and successful legislator. Which is why she is so vehmently hated on the right.
I have to disagree with you. It has nothing to do with whether or not she is either tough or successful. It has everything to do with the stances she takes.
Edit: In other words, if she were a conservative things would be different.
Immie
Doubtful. If she gave in to the Republicans on every issue, they'd just move further to the right.
I have to disagree with you. It has nothing to do with whether or not she is either tough or successful. It has everything to do with the stances she takes.
Edit: In other words, if she were a conservative things would be different.
Immie
Doubtful. If she gave in to the Republicans on every issue, they'd just move further to the right.
What I meant was if she was a conservative, they would have adored her. It was her position on things that made her Public Enemy #1 - #15 as far as conservatives were concerned. And if she was conservative, the liberals would have despised her.
Immie
When compared to Hastert and Boehner, Pelosi will be considered one of the finest speakers of this era
Except she's not far left.
thats a matter of opinion Sallow.....i think she is pretty far to the left.....its people like her that drove me out of the Democratic party in the early nineties.....
Of course it is..
But I base my parameters on the variables I've seen over most of the 50 years of my life. And what was considered far right some 30 years ago..now seems to the "center". The Birchers may have went on and on about how John F. Kennedy was a man beholdened to the Pope and a communist (A neat trick!) but no one took them seriously. Now President Obama is a foreign born/muslim/communist (A neat trick!) and mainstream serious contenders for the Presidency on the right are "parroting" the same view.
She was and is a tough and successful legislator. Which is why she is so vehmently hated on the right.
I have to disagree with you. It has nothing to do with whether or not she is either tough or successful. It has everything to do with the stances she takes.
Edit: In other words, if she were a conservative things would be different.
Immie
Doubtful. If she gave in to the Republicans on every issue, they'd just move further to the right.
Also, the attempt at false equivalence is BS and we don't even need to rely on hypotheticals. Boehner gets laughed at for his crying jags, but he's not subjected to half the level of bile from the left that Pelosi was from the right.
Pelosi always does what she needs to do, she's a rainmaker. The woman is dynamic and Republicans just hate her for it.
She was a great Speaker, a rose between two very stupid Republican thorns.
Pelosi always does what she needs to do, she's a rainmaker. The woman is dynamic and Republicans just hate her for it.
She was a great Speaker, a rose between two very stupid Republican thorns.
well i dont care for her but i have know about her since 1990......and no one hates her because she is Dynamic Sarah.....they dont care for her because of some of the assine things she has said and backed......Artie sumed her up very nicely.....
Artie?
She is taken out of context more than even Obama and he is taken out of context quite often. I'm not saying everytime, we all bungle what we try to convey from time to time but she is absolutely hated and bashed, unfairly a lot.