Bs. The guy was smuggling humans.
Leaked Emails Expose Trump’s DOJ Plot to Frame Abrego Garcia with Fake Evidence
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Dragonlady
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Still believing the lies pumped out by the Trump White House.
Why was he never charged before???? Reason: they had to gin up the phony evidence. That ridiculous tattoo story having collapsed utterly.
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Really? Are you so incapable of doing simple research that you just run with the commie propaganda? One court made the determination, another upheld it.
In a December 2019 decision, the Board of Immigration Appeals dismissed Abrego Garcia’s challenge to an immigration judge’s factual finding that he is “a verified member of MS-13.”
The board found the immigration judge “appropriately considered allegations of gang affiliation against the respondent in determining that he has not demonstrated that he is not a danger to property or persons.”
DOJ Releases Dossier Of Deported Maryland Man’s Alleged MS-13 Gang Ties
The Department of Justice (DOJ) released documents Wednesday demonstrating Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia’s membership in the MS-13 gang. Abrego Garcia’s
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The body cam footage of his stop in TN is very real. xiden's DOJ told TN State Police to let him, and the other illegals he was transporting, go. He'll be convicted when it goes to court.
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Marener
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How do you know the other people in the van were illegal?
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Well child, they had enough evidence to secure an indictment. Also you should check out the body cam footage of the stop.
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Marener
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Hardly impressive. The question stands.
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Marener
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The people have no identification, correct?
WorldWatcher
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Really? Are you so incapable of doing simple research that you just run with the commie propaganda? One court made the determination, another upheld it.
In a December 2019 decision, the Board of Immigration Appeals dismissed Abrego Garcia’s challenge to an immigration judge’s factual finding that he is “a verified member of MS-13.”
The board found the immigration judge “appropriately considered allegations of gang affiliation against the respondent in determining that he has not demonstrated that he is not a danger to property or persons.”
DOJ Releases Dossier Of Deported Maryland Man’s Alleged MS-13 Gang Ties
The Department of Justice (DOJ) released documents Wednesday demonstrating Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia’s membership in the MS-13 gang. Abrego Garcia’s
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The December 2019 did not say that.
The only use of the word verified was "The respondent argues that the Immigration Judge erred in determining that he is a verified member of MS-13 because..."
It later said the prior judges has appropriately considered "allegations".
We are talking about the original bond hearing from April 2019 where the individual had limited access to counsel, the judges were DHS employee (i.e. heavily weighted to got with what the prosecutor said), had limited time to response, limited time to being documents and witnesses because - it was a bond hearing.
Article III Judges, not employees of DHS, have had critical words pertaining the hearsay claims to paint Abrego Garcia as a MS-13 member.
To contrast a media outlet claim, I'll supply a document from actual court.
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Run along, not going to play 60 questions. There are stories on line and threads on here, look them up.
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You obviously can't read any better than you can type. The appeal determination says exactly what my link said.
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WorldWatcher
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Try reading the actual document. No it doesn’t.
This wa an appeal to the original bond hearing from April 2019 where the individual had limited access to counsel, the judges were DHS employee (i.e. heavily weighted to got with what the prosecutor said), had limited time to response, limited time to being documents and witnesses because - it was a bond hearing.
The judges are employees (immigration judges) of DHS and therefore have great weight to the prosecutions “allegation”.
Real federal judges (Holmes, Crenshaw, and Xinis) have expressed doubts as to the veracity of the prosecutions claims.
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Reservations are irrelevant, they still sustained the finding and said he was a danger to people and property.
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WorldWatcher
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In 2019 sure.
But this is 2025, and his case(s) are now outside the realm of DHS employees. His case is now in Federal court and there is an actual opportunity to challenge what the prosecutors claim as justification the presentation of history, sworn testimony, documents, they get to know actually challenge the validity and consistency of witnesses and documents.
Things like claiming he's a gang member because "well judge he was wearing a Chicago Bulls hat".
Or, "well judge he was at a Home Depot".
Or, "we have a confidential informant (wink, wink) that said he was an MS-13 member in New York" - when he'd never lived in New York and had been living with his brother and working in Maryland. Work BTW which was legal because the Trump Administration in 2019 decided NOT to pursue 3rd country deportation and gave him legal work authorization.
Federal Judges (two) in TN not just had "reservations" they have challenged the validity and found it lacking. As such Judge Holmes ordered his release, but the defense had to request he be held in custody, not because he was a danger, but to provide protective custody while the criminal case proceeds. They Maryland Federal Judge ordered that ICE NOT take Abrego Garcia into custody when released from custody by Judge Holmes to facilitate his return to Maryland and restore him back to his previous status.
The Federal Judges saw/see through the little shell game the DHS/DOJ was trying to pull. Get Abrego Garcia back to the US in a friendly jurisdiction (i.e. TN), charge him on some charges they never intended to actually take to trial, smear him in the media, then quickly deport him again putting him outside the jurisdiction of the courts and then drop the charges and tell the Judges (in TN and MD) "Well - sorry Judge - the defendant is no long in the United States, you have no jurisdiction, and we're dropping the charges".
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https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.tnmd.104622/gov.uscourts.tnmd.104622.95.0_2.pdf
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Have YOU ever done that?
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The guy is a foreign gang member. We dont give a shit if they execute him on sight, let alone if they call him a "high level gang member".Newly released emails reveal that top officials in the Trump administration went to great lengths to falsely label Kilmar Abrego Garcia as an MS-13 gang leader. This effort unfolded even as the administration faced mounting pressure to return Garcia to the U.S. after wrongly deporting him to El Salvador...
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Nevertheless, Trump and his administration continued to call Garcia a gang member and even a terrorist. Vice President JD Vance went as far as labeling him a “high-level gang member in MS-13,” despite the emails showing no proof of such a claim.
The emails also expose efforts to falsely assert that Garcia was safe in the Salvadoran prison, CECOT. Reuveni raised concerns, asking for guarantees that Garcia wouldn’t be harmed, but received little assurance. The truth came out when Garcia confirmed he was tortured and beaten in the prison...
The whistle blowwe was of course fired.
The reason? “Failing to zealously advocate” for the administration’s position. In reality, his “crime” was insisting on sticking to the facts.
Even more disturbing, DOJ agreed to release an actual violent felon from custody in the U.S. for lying about Garcia.
YOu and I both know this is far from the whole story. If they are willing to fabricate evidence against one person they are willing to do it to anyone.
Leaked Emails Expose Trump’s DOJ Plot to Frame Abrego Garcia with Fake Evidence
Newly released emails reveal that top officials in the Trump administration went to great lengths to falsely label Kilmar Abrego Garcia as an MS-13 gang leader. This effort unfolded even as the administration faced mounting pressure to return Garcia to the U.S. after wrongly deporting him to El...dailyboulder.com
He wasn’t charged in 2022 because Biden DOJ was pro cartel
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Newly released emails reveal that top officials in the Trump administration went to great lengths to falsely label Kilmar Abrego Garcia as an MS-13 gang leader. This effort unfolded even as the administration faced mounting pressure to return Garcia to the U.S. after wrongly deporting him to El Salvador...
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Nevertheless, Trump and his administration continued to call Garcia a gang member and even a terrorist. Vice President JD Vance went as far as labeling him a “high-level gang member in MS-13,” despite the emails showing no proof of such a claim.
The emails also expose efforts to falsely assert that Garcia was safe in the Salvadoran prison, CECOT. Reuveni raised concerns, asking for guarantees that Garcia wouldn’t be harmed, but received little assurance. The truth came out when Garcia confirmed he was tortured and beaten in the prison...
The whistle blowwe was of course fired.
The reason? “Failing to zealously advocate” for the administration’s position. In reality, his “crime” was insisting on sticking to the facts.
Even more disturbing, DOJ agreed to release an actual violent felon from custody in the U.S. for lying about Garcia.
YOu and I both know this is far from the whole story. If they are willing to fabricate evidence against one person they are willing to do it to anyone.
Leaked Emails Expose Trump’s DOJ Plot to Frame Abrego Garcia with Fake Evidence
Newly released emails reveal that top officials in the Trump administration went to great lengths to falsely label Kilmar Abrego Garcia as an MS-13 gang leader. This effort unfolded even as the administration faced mounting pressure to return Garcia to the U.S. after wrongly deporting him to El...
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