Leaked details of draft peace plan give Putin what he wants

[Rambunctious]

The coal industry in Russia is going bankrupt. The entire sector.

From January to September 2024, Russia's coal industry suffered losses totaling 91 billion rubles ($1 billion), with nearly half of enterprises operating at a loss. Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak is set to review an industry assessment as the government considers sector-wide bankruptcies.

They sell coal under the table and oil and gas to places like Iran India Pakistan China and NK... its all off the books...

 

[Blisterfinger]

The adults believed Trump when he said he would end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours.

Biden had a huge failure with Ukraine (among many) failures he had. If the war still rages on in 4 years when Trump is done, you can blame Trump but right now Biden is a huge failure. Did you vote for that? Are you a failure too?

 

[Rambunctious]

I think if the world fought back against Putin. Provide Ukraine with the arms to defend itself and then cut Russia off to the world economically then he would have no choice but to surrender. We need to stand up for and fight for what is right and not let the bullies get away with their strong man tactics... otherwise they will continue to use them.

What have we been doing for 4 years?... what do you want US Boots on the ground??? one mans bully is another mans state leader....

 

[otto105]

You forgot about the weak and feckless Biden Administration. Did you vote for that?

I did.

You voted for a sellout.

 

[meaner gene]

So you think Putin would surrender and give back the land he has taken??? don't hold your breath... its not going to happen... so knowing that why not make a deal now?... a deal that will last...

If Putin wants the sanctions lifted.

Right now the entire Russian coal industry is going bankrupt because of the sanctions.

The Russian economy caused almost a million russians to leave in the first year alone. Probably many more by now.

Putin is holding out a tin cup asking tin pot dictators for help.

 

[Blisterfinger]

I did.

You voted for a sellout.

That's because you are an idiot, I voted for strength not weakness, coward. Did you leave yet to go fight for Ukraine?

 

[otto105]

What have we been doing for 4 years?... what do you want US Boots on the ground??? one mans bully is another mans state leader....

We were on the side of freedom.

You're on the side of dictator.

 

[Rambunctious]

We were on the side of freedom.

You're on the side of dictator.

Freedom??? in a dictatorship??? LMAO

 

[Rambunctious]

If Putin wants the sanctions lifted.

Right now the entire Russian coal industry is going bankrupt because of the sanctions.

The Russian economy caused almost a million russians to leave in the first year alone. Probably many more by now.

Putin is holding out a tin cup asking tin pot dictators for help.

Its not going bankrupt....

 

[otto105]

That's because you are an idiot, I voted for strength not weakness, coward. Did you leave yet to go fight for Ukraine?

Bending a knee to the pootin is feckless.

That's what your dear leader is and that reflects you.

 

[Blisterfinger]

We were on the side of freedom.

You're on the side of dictator.

Yet you just admitted you voted for Biden

 

[otto105]

Yet you just admitted you voted for BidenView attachment 1081196

Yes, the President who didn't bend a knee to the russian dictator.

Your fuckup does.

 

[meaner gene]

They sell coal under the table and oil and gas to places like Iran India Pakistan China and NK... its all off the books...

Those black market sales aren't enough to offset the huge losses from the sanctions.
The entire coal industry in russia is going bankrupt, and the russian government is in a panic.

 

[Slade3200]

What have we been doing for 4 years?... what do you want US Boots on the ground??? one mans bully is another mans state leader....

We have been bleeding Putin, while he held fast and waited for his buddy Trump to get back in the white house. Instead of backing him which is what Trump appears to be doing he should double down on the efforts we have been making for the past 4 years. There are alot of things I don't like about Trump but I know he can be a hard ass when he wants to be. I'd love to see him point some of that towards Putin and stop kissing his ass.

 

[otto105]

Freedom??? in a dictatorship??? LMAO

Yes, Zalensky was elected fair and square.

The pootin rules as authoritarian commie pinko.


is that clear rammed.

 

[Rambunctious]

We have been bleeding Putin, while he held fast and waited for his buddy Trump to get back in the white house. Instead of backing him which is what Trump appears to be doing he should double down on the efforts we have been making for the past 4 years. There are alot of things I don't like about Trump but I know he can be a hard ass when he wants to be. I'd love to see him point some of that towards Putin and stop kissing his ass.

Trump has bigger concerns than your hatred of Putin... its called China... if we toss out any hope of better relations with Russia they will run to China like they are moving towards... and that is far worse for the USA than Ukraine losing the Donbass region...
Trump is wise enough to see this...

 

[otto105]

Those black market sales aren't enough to offset the huge losses from the sanctions.
The entire coal industry in russia is going bankrupt, and the russian government is in a panic.

Russia's economy will be ground to a halt by 2026, a think tank said this week. Massive government spending on defense is costing other sectors, Alexandra Prokopenko wrote. Businesses are slumping amid inflation, low labor supply, and rising borrowing costs.

 

[22lcidw]

Trump thinks that Putin is going to hold to a peace agreement.

Spectacularly naive, of course, but that's Trump. And, he really doesn't give two shits about Ukraine, he just wants to roll with the big boys.

The big boys can't wait.

As we declined as a manufacturing nation in the 1980's the Japanese were a threat to take over and laughed at us. They are wounded now. They did however show the latest generations of production and efficiencies.

 

[CrazyTrader55]

What happened to Trumps claim that as president he would end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours?
Trump claimed he would do it by having Russia and Ukraine sit down together at the negotiating table, because both were eager to end the war.

What happened to Biden's claim that...
"If you take these vaccinations you aren't going to get Covid!"

 

[meaner gene]

Trump has bigger concerns than your hatred of Putin... its called China... if we toss out any hope of better relations with Russia they will run to China like they are moving towards... and that is far worse for the USA than Ukraine losing the Donbass region...
Trump is wise enough to see this...

You miss the big picture, the adult picture.
If we let Russia profit from the invasion of Ukraine, China will take that as a greenlight to take Taiwan.