Law and order...Democrat style...How does this make sense?

[The Original Tree]

A group of hooligans break into a grocery store, they’re caught red handed in the middle of the act.
Democrats say....well, since they’re already here and have already completed the illegal acts, lets just let them stay and take all they need. We’ll just pass the cost on to normal paying customers?

How could anyone sane see this as sensible? Am I missing something?

You are missing that you are given a false analogy. Comparing coming into a country to try to better your life as breaking into a grocery store, even going as far as referring to them as hooligans, which implies they're trashing the store on top of robbing it is a false analogy. Both could be technically considered a crime but they are completely different. Someone swimming the Rio Grande isn't there to steal what you have. He's there to make ends meat by laboring. He doesn't want to life outside the law, he very much wants to be included in society. Morally the motives for both acts are completely different, so are the consequences. Given analogies is a useful tool to make a point, given these kinds of analogies are at best foolish.

Take the locks off of your home and car. Leave the keys in it, and let anyone who wants to use your home or car right in, and then you pay for their gas, insurance, food, and education while you are at it.

MORON.

 

[BrokeLoser]

A group of hooligans break into a grocery store, they’re caught red handed in the middle of the act.
Democrats say....well, since they’re already here and have already completed the illegal acts, lets just let them stay and take all they need. We’ll just pass the cost on to normal paying customers?

How could anyone sane see this as sensible? Am I missing something?

You are missing that you are given a false analogy. Comparing coming into a country to try to better your life as breaking into a grocery store, even going as far as referring to them as hooligans, which implies they're trashing the store on top of robbing it is a false analogy. Both could be technically considered a crime but they are completely different. Someone swimming the Rio Grande isn't there to steal what you have. He's there to make ends meat by laboring. He doesn't want to life outside the law, he very much wants to be included in society. Morally the motives for both acts are completely different, so are the consequences. Given analogies is a useful tool to make a point, given these kinds of analogies are at best foolish.

You definitely win the award for Dumbass Of The Day. The analogy is identical...your spin is just that...A SPIN.....You're busting your ass trying to create separation between the two scenarios...there is none. Sorry bud, back to the drawing board...try again.

 

[Tax Man]

A group of hooligans break into a grocery store, they’re caught red handed in the middle of the act.
Democrats say....well, since they’re already here and have already completed the illegal acts, lets just let them stay and take all they need. We’ll just pass the cost on to normal paying customers?

How could anyone sane see this as sensible? Am I missing something?

WTF are you babbling about?

Lets see some links where ANY Democrat has proposed what you are hallucinating about?

Pull your head out of your ass and follow along Loon.

“This is a fictional hypothetical Gramps....the correlation being the basis for Amnesty coming from Democrats.
The ole.....”well, they’re already here....let’s let them stay” bullshit”

You are the one who is lost. To say it is only dems is your first mistake. Your attitude towards real Americans is your next one.

 

[forkup]

A group of hooligans break into a grocery store, they’re caught red handed in the middle of the act.
Democrats say....well, since they’re already here and have already completed the illegal acts, lets just let them stay and take all they need. We’ll just pass the cost on to normal paying customers?

How could anyone sane see this as sensible? Am I missing something?

You are missing that you are given a false analogy. Comparing coming into a country to try to better your life as breaking into a grocery store, even going as far as referring to them as hooligans, which implies they're trashing the store on top of robbing it is a false analogy. Both could be technically considered a crime but they are completely different. Someone swimming the Rio Grande isn't there to steal what you have. He's there to make ends meat by laboring. He doesn't want to life outside the law, he very much wants to be included in society. Morally the motives for both acts are completely different, so are the consequences. Given analogies is a useful tool to make a point, given these kinds of analogies are at best foolish.

Take the locks off of your home and car. Leave the keys in it, and let anyone who wants to use your home or car right in, and then you pay for their gas, insurance, food, and education while you are at it.

MORON.

I love when people call me MORON and then subsequently strengthen my point. So to my criticism of given a false analogy some other person gives a false dichotomy. I can claim the rights to my personal possessions without saying stuff like education or healthcare for instance should only be available to me. Two posts 2 different logical fallacies. Want to try again?

 

[forkup]

A group of hooligans break into a grocery store, they’re caught red handed in the middle of the act.
Democrats say....well, since they’re already here and have already completed the illegal acts, lets just let them stay and take all they need. We’ll just pass the cost on to normal paying customers?

How could anyone sane see this as sensible? Am I missing something?

You are missing that you are given a false analogy. Comparing coming into a country to try to better your life as breaking into a grocery store, even going as far as referring to them as hooligans, which implies they're trashing the store on top of robbing it is a false analogy. Both could be technically considered a crime but they are completely different. Someone swimming the Rio Grande isn't there to steal what you have. He's there to make ends meat by laboring. He doesn't want to life outside the law, he very much wants to be included in society. Morally the motives for both acts are completely different, so are the consequences. Given analogies is a useful tool to make a point, given these kinds of analogies are at best foolish.

You definitely win the award for Dumbass Of The Day. The analogy is identical...your spin is just that...A SPIN.....You're busting your ass trying to create separation between the two scenarios...there is none. Sorry bud, back to the drawing board...try again.

So robbing and trashing a grocery store is the same as swimming the Rio Grande? Give the argumentation to that if you can.

 

[BrokeLoser]

A group of hooligans break into a grocery store, they’re caught red handed in the middle of the act.
Democrats say....well, since they’re already here and have already completed the illegal acts, lets just let them stay and take all they need. We’ll just pass the cost on to normal paying customers?

How could anyone sane see this as sensible? Am I missing something?

You are missing that you are given a false analogy. Comparing coming into a country to try to better your life as breaking into a grocery store, even going as far as referring to them as hooligans, which implies they're trashing the store on top of robbing it is a false analogy. Both could be technically considered a crime but they are completely different. Someone swimming the Rio Grande isn't there to steal what you have. He's there to make ends meat by laboring. He doesn't want to life outside the law, he very much wants to be included in society. Morally the motives for both acts are completely different, so are the consequences. Given analogies is a useful tool to make a point, given these kinds of analogies are at best foolish.

You definitely win the award for Dumbass Of The Day. The analogy is identical...your spin is just that...A SPIN.....You're busting your ass trying to create separation between the two scenarios...there is none. Sorry bud, back to the drawing board...try again.

So robbing and trashing a grocery store is the same as swimming the Rio Grande? Give the argumentation to that if you can.

Listen to yourself bud...
No one said anything about trashing a grocery store or swimming in a river. Please don’t make me spell this elementary shit out for your dumbass.

 

[g5000]

There is actually enough support in the House by both Republicans and Democrats to approve a bill granting amnesty to the Dreamers.

The Tard Herd's propaganda outlets are keeping this a secret from their piss drinkers.

The only thing stopping amnesty for Dreamers is the Hastert Rule. Which isn't even an actual rule. It is an unwritten rule.

The GOP leadership uses it whenever they find themselves in direct conflict with the Will of the American People. They are hostage to the bigots.

 

[forkup]

A group of hooligans break into a grocery store, they’re caught red handed in the middle of the act.
Democrats say....well, since they’re already here and have already completed the illegal acts, lets just let them stay and take all they need. We’ll just pass the cost on to normal paying customers?

How could anyone sane see this as sensible? Am I missing something?

You are missing that you are given a false analogy. Comparing coming into a country to try to better your life as breaking into a grocery store, even going as far as referring to them as hooligans, which implies they're trashing the store on top of robbing it is a false analogy. Both could be technically considered a crime but they are completely different. Someone swimming the Rio Grande isn't there to steal what you have. He's there to make ends meat by laboring. He doesn't want to life outside the law, he very much wants to be included in society. Morally the motives for both acts are completely different, so are the consequences. Given analogies is a useful tool to make a point, given these kinds of analogies are at best foolish.

You definitely win the award for Dumbass Of The Day. The analogy is identical...your spin is just that...A SPIN.....You're busting your ass trying to create separation between the two scenarios...there is none. Sorry bud, back to the drawing board...try again.

So robbing and trashing a grocery store is the same as swimming the Rio Grande? Give the argumentation to that if you can.

Listen to yourself bud...
No one said anything about trashing a grocery store or swimming in a river. Please don’t make me spell this elementary shit out for your dumbass.

You are right I'll rephrase. Coming into this country illegally is the same as robbing a grocery store and thrashing it? Make your case.

 

[g5000]

Blacks, whites, Republicans, Democrats, liberals, conservatives. A majority of all demographic groups (except racists) want amnesty for the illegals.

And the poor dumb tards keep coming here to start topics whining only about the Democrats.

They can't accept they are in a tiny, tiny minority.

Tiny minority....as in 30 states and 2,623 counties?
Why do you hate the U.S. Constitution and the good quality folks that follow it?

Even the Emperor wants amnesty for Dreamers.

You are in a tiny, tiny minority. No matter how many topics you bigots start in order to feel bigger than you pissants actually are.

 

[BrokeLoser]

A group of hooligans break into a grocery store, they’re caught red handed in the middle of the act.
Democrats say....well, since they’re already here and have already completed the illegal acts, lets just let them stay and take all they need. We’ll just pass the cost on to normal paying customers?

How could anyone sane see this as sensible? Am I missing something?

You are missing that you are given a false analogy. Comparing coming into a country to try to better your life as breaking into a grocery store, even going as far as referring to them as hooligans, which implies they're trashing the store on top of robbing it is a false analogy. Both could be technically considered a crime but they are completely different. Someone swimming the Rio Grande isn't there to steal what you have. He's there to make ends meat by laboring. He doesn't want to life outside the law, he very much wants to be included in society. Morally the motives for both acts are completely different, so are the consequences. Given analogies is a useful tool to make a point, given these kinds of analogies are at best foolish.

A group of hooligans break into a grocery store, they’re caught red handed in the middle of the act.
Democrats say....well, since they’re already here and have already completed the illegal acts, lets just let them stay and take all they need. We’ll just pass the cost on to normal paying customers?

How could anyone sane see this as sensible? Am I missing something?

You are missing that you are given a false analogy. Comparing coming into a country to try to better your life as breaking into a grocery store, even going as far as referring to them as hooligans, which implies they're trashing the store on top of robbing it is a false analogy. Both could be technically considered a crime but they are completely different. Someone swimming the Rio Grande isn't there to steal what you have. He's there to make ends meat by laboring. He doesn't want to life outside the law, he very much wants to be included in society. Morally the motives for both acts are completely different, so are the consequences. Given analogies is a useful tool to make a point, given these kinds of analogies are at best foolish.

You definitely win the award for Dumbass Of The Day. The analogy is identical...your spin is just that...A SPIN.....You're busting your ass trying to create separation between the two scenarios...there is none. Sorry bud, back to the drawing board...try again.

So robbing and trashing a grocery store is the same as swimming the Rio Grande? Give the argumentation to that if you can.

A man breaks into a grocery store.
(A ******* breaks into the United States)
A man is caught in the grocery store illegally.
(A ******* is caught in the U.S. illegally)
A man is stealing groceries from the grocery store.
(A ******* is stealing from Americans)

Are you starting to see the correlation Loon?
Nobody gives two shits about motives....we live in a first world nation founded on sovereignty, law and order.
Why is this so hard for you to wrap your head around?
What part of that shithole Mexico are you from and how long have you been ******* over good Americans?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

So as I was saying...

Poor tards. They think amnesty for illegals is a Democrat thing.

The fact is a vast, vast, vast super-super-majority of ALL Americans want amnesty for illegals.

The tards think the more topics they start whining about amnesty, the less of a minority they will look like.

It isn't working.

Most of us aren't against a path to citizenship. The problem here is that we keep getting lied to about if we just grant amnesty, we'll fix the system. It never happens, they just keep pouring in. Also, what's wrong with ensuring if you come here you bring something to the table? Seriously, how many landscapers and hotel housekeepers do we need?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Blacks, whites, Republicans, Democrats, liberals, conservatives. A majority of all demographic groups (except racists) want amnesty for the illegals.

And the poor dumb tards keep coming here to start topics whining only about the Democrats.

They can't accept they are in a tiny, tiny minority.

Tiny minority....as in 30 states and 2,623 counties?
Why do you hate the U.S. Constitution and the good quality folks that follow it?

Even the Emperor wants amnesty for Dreamers.

You are in a tiny, tiny minority. No matter how many topics you bigots start in order to feel bigger than you pissants actually are.

Think of how ******* retarded you sound.
You’re claiming that “most Americans” don’t support constitutional adherence?
You’re claiming that “most Americans” want to support federal criminals?
You’re claiming that “most Americans” prefer to fund foreigners when we have plenty of our own to fund?
You’re claiming that “most Americans” are fine with the mass degradation of neighborhoods and communities caused by thirdworld minded filth?
You’re claiming that “most Americans” prefer to live among dependent thirdworlders that don’t speak our language?
STOP for a minute bud and listen to how ******* stupid you sound...not even your dumbass can possibly believe that shit....hahaha

 

[g5000]

Blacks, whites, Republicans, Democrats, liberals, conservatives. A majority of all demographic groups (except racists) want amnesty for the illegals.

And the poor dumb tards keep coming here to start topics whining only about the Democrats.

They can't accept they are in a tiny, tiny minority.

Tiny minority....as in 30 states and 2,623 counties?
Why do you hate the U.S. Constitution and the good quality folks that follow it?

Even the Emperor wants amnesty for Dreamers.

You are in a tiny, tiny minority. No matter how many topics you bigots start in order to feel bigger than you pissants actually are.

Think of how ******* retarded you sound.
You’re claiming that “most Americans” don’t support constitutional adherence?

Just because you claim giving amnesty to illegals somehow violates "constitutional adherence" does not make it true, retard. You stated a false premise, and so your entire argument collapses.

 

[g5000]

You’re claiming that “most Americans” prefer to live among dependent thirdworlders that don’t speak our language?
STOP for a minute bud and listen to how ******* stupid you sound...not even your dumbass can possibly believe that shit....hahaha

I pity you bigoted tards who bleev everyone thinks as you do.

This is what I mean. You try to convince yourselves you pissants are bigger than you really are.

Sad.

 

[g5000]

So as I was saying...

Poor tards. They think amnesty for illegals is a Democrat thing.

The fact is a vast, vast, vast super-super-majority of ALL Americans want amnesty for illegals.

The tards think the more topics they start whining about amnesty, the less of a minority they will look like.

It isn't working.

Most of us aren't against a path to citizenship. The problem here is that we keep getting lied to about if we just grant amnesty, we'll fix the system. It never happens, they just keep pouring in. Also, what's wrong with ensuring if you come here you bring something to the table? Seriously, how many landscapers and hotel housekeepers do we need?

Our immigrant labor force does the jobs Americans won't do. That's the way it is with every prosperous society.

We have full employment. You guys are constantly bragging about it these days. So the argument illegals are stealing jobs collapses.

 

[forkup]

A group of hooligans break into a grocery store, they’re caught red handed in the middle of the act.
Democrats say....well, since they’re already here and have already completed the illegal acts, lets just let them stay and take all they need. We’ll just pass the cost on to normal paying customers?

How could anyone sane see this as sensible? Am I missing something?

You are missing that you are given a false analogy. Comparing coming into a country to try to better your life as breaking into a grocery store, even going as far as referring to them as hooligans, which implies they're trashing the store on top of robbing it is a false analogy. Both could be technically considered a crime but they are completely different. Someone swimming the Rio Grande isn't there to steal what you have. He's there to make ends meat by laboring. He doesn't want to life outside the law, he very much wants to be included in society. Morally the motives for both acts are completely different, so are the consequences. Given analogies is a useful tool to make a point, given these kinds of analogies are at best foolish.

A group of hooligans break into a grocery store, they’re caught red handed in the middle of the act.
Democrats say....well, since they’re already here and have already completed the illegal acts, lets just let them stay and take all they need. We’ll just pass the cost on to normal paying customers?

How could anyone sane see this as sensible? Am I missing something?

You are missing that you are given a false analogy. Comparing coming into a country to try to better your life as breaking into a grocery store, even going as far as referring to them as hooligans, which implies they're trashing the store on top of robbing it is a false analogy. Both could be technically considered a crime but they are completely different. Someone swimming the Rio Grande isn't there to steal what you have. He's there to make ends meat by laboring. He doesn't want to life outside the law, he very much wants to be included in society. Morally the motives for both acts are completely different, so are the consequences. Given analogies is a useful tool to make a point, given these kinds of analogies are at best foolish.

You definitely win the award for Dumbass Of The Day. The analogy is identical...your spin is just that...A SPIN.....You're busting your ass trying to create separation between the two scenarios...there is none. Sorry bud, back to the drawing board...try again.

So robbing and trashing a grocery store is the same as swimming the Rio Grande? Give the argumentation to that if you can.

A man breaks into a grocery store.
(A ******* breaks into the United States)
A man is caught in the grocery store illegally.
(A ******* is caught in the U.S. illegally)
A man is stealing groceries from the grocery store.
(A ******* is stealing from Americans)

Are you starting to see the correlation Loon?
Nobody gives two shits about motives....we live in a first world nation founded on sovereignty, law and order.
Why is this so hard for you to wrap your head around?
What part of that shithole Mexico are you from and how long have you been ******* over good Americans?

Breaking in to the United States and breaking in to the grocery store I'll allow for the analogy.
I'll even allow the second bit.
As to the third bit I have a problem. What is he stealing? Fruit picking? Exiting opportunities in gardening? Time in an ER to get basic care. Or the right to send his kids to school. You might not like it but he,or she works. For less money then other people. Providing production and services to fuel the economy. Stealing implies you take without offering anything back. THEY DO. So in the end what you have left is breaking into a grocery store to PAY for products. At the moment the US has what economist consider full employment this includes labor provided by Illegal immigrants. Who's going to do those jobs? I'm willing to answer the premise of your posts, use derogatory language again and I will consider you not interested in honest conversation. Oh and I also notice you didn't give a justification for reffering to robbers as hooligans. Weird to put that into the analogy

 

[g5000]

The fact is, for our economy to grow at a clip better than 4 percent, we are going to need immigrants.

 

[BrokeLoser]

So as I was saying...

Poor tards. They think amnesty for illegals is a Democrat thing.

The fact is a vast, vast, vast super-super-majority of ALL Americans want amnesty for illegals.

The tards think the more topics they start whining about amnesty, the less of a minority they will look like.

It isn't working.

Most of us aren't against a path to citizenship. The problem here is that we keep getting lied to about if we just grant amnesty, we'll fix the system. It never happens, they just keep pouring in. Also, what's wrong with ensuring if you come here you bring something to the table? Seriously, how many landscapers and hotel housekeepers do we need?

Our immigrant labor force does the jobs Americans won't do. That's the way it is with every prosperous society.

We have full employment. You guys are constantly bragging about it these days. So the argument illegals are stealing jobs collapses.

Again...you can’t for the life of you realize how ******* stupid you sound.
People who support law, order and the U.S. Constitution are only considered to be “bigots” by un-American pieces of shits...you realize that....right?

 

[forkup]

So as I was saying...

Poor tards. They think amnesty for illegals is a Democrat thing.

The fact is a vast, vast, vast super-super-majority of ALL Americans want amnesty for illegals.

The tards think the more topics they start whining about amnesty, the less of a minority they will look like.

It isn't working.

Most of us aren't against a path to citizenship. The problem here is that we keep getting lied to about if we just grant amnesty, we'll fix the system. It never happens, they just keep pouring in. Also, what's wrong with ensuring if you come here you bring something to the table? Seriously, how many landscapers and hotel housekeepers do we need?

Our immigrant labor force does the jobs Americans won't do. That's the way it is with every prosperous society.

We have full employment. You guys are constantly bragging about it these days. So the argument illegals are stealing jobs collapses.

Again...you can’t for the life of you realize how ******* stupid you sound.
People who support law, order and the U.S. Constitution are only considered to be “bigots” by un-American pieces of shits...you realize that....right?

Maybe not referring to Mexicans as wetbacks might help with not being called a bigot?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

So as I was saying...

Poor tards. They think amnesty for illegals is a Democrat thing.

The fact is a vast, vast, vast super-super-majority of ALL Americans want amnesty for illegals.

The tards think the more topics they start whining about amnesty, the less of a minority they will look like.

It isn't working.

Most of us aren't against a path to citizenship. The problem here is that we keep getting lied to about if we just grant amnesty, we'll fix the system. It never happens, they just keep pouring in. Also, what's wrong with ensuring if you come here you bring something to the table? Seriously, how many landscapers and hotel housekeepers do we need?

Our immigrant labor force does the jobs Americans won't do. That's the way it is with every prosperous society.

We have full employment. You guys are constantly bragging about it these days. So the argument illegals are stealing jobs collapses.

I never made that argument. Check on what it takes to move to Australia. You telling me Australians won't cut grass or clean hotel rooms?