Laura Ingraham, David Hogg and the beginning of the end of free speech.

[playtime]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

Damn

Did Hogg slap down that hateful ***** or what?

She announced last night she is taking a “vacation”
Hogg doesn’t even have his own cable news program

Media Matters is backing Hogg. You can tell he's a catcher just by witnessing who is lining up behind him pardon the pun. Oh drill me sir should be his motto as Anderson Cooper Jr.

PS her vacation was pre planned. She has children and its spring break baby for students who really do attend school.

UNLIKE ******* HOGG WHO WASN'T EVEN AT SCHOOL THAT DAY OF THE MASSACRE.

either you are pathetically stupid as hell & will swallow any load from the fake news makers, or you know it's a lie & don't a ****...

David Hogg not at school during shooting? Bloggers spread misinformation
By Allison Graves on Tuesday, March 27th, 2018 at 12:23 p.m.
[...]

Here’s what happened...

Hogg was at the school during the shooting. Hogg shot a video on his cellphone while taking cover in a classroom closet.



David Hogg not at school during shooting? That's fake news

 

[Ray9]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

Damn

Did Hogg slap down that hateful ***** or what?

She announced last night she is taking a “vacation”
Hogg doesn’t even have his own cable news program

Media Matters is backing Hogg. You can tell he's a catcher just by witnessing who is lining up behind him pardon the pun. Oh drill me sir should be his motto as Anderson Cooper Jr.

PS her vacation was pre planned. She has children and its spring break baby for students who really do attend school.

UNLIKE ******* HOGG WHO WASN'T EVEN AT SCHOOL THAT DAY OF THE MASSACRE.

either you are pathetically stupid as hell & will swallow any load from the fake news makers, or you know it's a lie & don't a ****...

David Hogg not at school during shooting? Bloggers spread misinformation
By Allison Graves on Tuesday, March 27th, 2018 at 12:23 p.m.
[...]

Here’s what happened...

Hogg was at the school during the shooting. Hogg shot a video on his cellphone while taking cover in a classroom closet.



David Hogg not at school during shooting? That's fake news

Bad language, arrogant and disrespectful-but free speech nonetheless. I support it.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Hogg doesn’t even have his own cable news program

Sure he does. It’s called the entire mainstream media. All left wing propagandists.

 

[rightwinger]

Free speech is a guaranteed right under the Constitution so voicing an opinion about something or someone is protected so long as it is truthful and does not inflict harm. Free Speech today is already under fire from some who want to modify its meaning for example "hate speech". So there are already efforts underway to downgrade free speech from a right to a privilege which is an early step to abolish actual free speech as too dangerous to be allowed which is the argument used by all totalitarian governments.

Ingraham made her own bed because she was unprofessional when she used Facebook as a forum to impugn Hogg's positions. But Hogg's response was far more dangerous to free speech because he used his speech as revenge speech to destroy Ingraham financially.

Free speech is the one thing that separates the US from most of the rest of the world but it is not bulletproof and it can be gone in a heartbeat if the people are afraid to use it for fear of losing their incomes

Congress shall pass no laws......

That is the extent of free speech. You can’t be imprisoned or fined for executing your right to free speech. Many countries still lack that right

Never meant that there are no consequences for what you say. You can be fired or lose your sponsors

 

[rightwinger]

Damn

Did Hogg slap down that hateful ***** or what?

She announced last night she is taking a “vacation”
Hogg doesn’t even have his own cable news program

Laugh today. This won't help you in November

The movement started by Parkland students will be attacking candidates who accept NRA funding and calling on young voters to reject them

In close districts, one or two percent of the vote can make a difference

 

[JimH52]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

Ingraham was a slug for attacking the kid being turned down at colleges. This is becoming typical for trump humping conservative mouth pieces... The trump himself began the classless insults. She will have to live with it....Oh Well!

 

[IsaacNewton]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

 

[rightwinger]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

Ingraham was a slug for attacking the kid being turned down at colleges. This is becoming typical for trump humping conservative mouth pieces... The trump himself began the classless insults. She will have to live with it....Oh Well!

It is all part of the Conservative playbook

They attack 9-11 families, Gold Star families, POWs, Sandy Hook families, Gabby Giffords and now teenagers who just saw their friends massacred

 

[JimH52]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

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Yup....that was Ingrahams expression when a high school kid B---slapped her.

 

[JimH52]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

Ingraham was a slug for attacking the kid being turned down at colleges. This is becoming typical for trump humping conservative mouth pieces... The trump himself began the classless insults. She will have to live with it....Oh Well!

It is all part of the Conservative playbook

They attack 9-11 families, Gold Star families, POWs, Sandy Hook families, Gabby Giffords and now teenagers who just saw their friends massacred

And it has become progressively worse since the orange blob named trump was elected.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

This is a good article, and it shows the visciousness of David Hogg.


David Hogg's attempt to end Laura Ingraham's career sets dangerous precedent

For Laura Ingraham, there was no choice but to apologize to Parkland school shooting activist David Hogg for her foolish tweet regarding the 17-year-old being rejected by several colleges.

"On reflection, in the spirit of Holy Week, I apologize for any upset or hurt my tweet caused him or any of the brave victims of Parkland," Ingraham wrote on Twitter. "For the record, I believe my show was the first to feature David immediately after that horrific shooting and even noted how 'poised' he was given the tragedy. As always he's welcome to return to the show anytime for a productive discussion."

David Hogg's attempt to end Laura Ingraham's career sets dangerous precedent

 

[HappyJoy]

He kind of has a point.

Poll after poll show that majorities favor gun control.

But a small section of the population bullies congress into supporting an insane status quo.

And poll after poll show that majorities support the 2nd Amendment, but we know if we left it up to people like you, we would lose our right to private ownership of firearms.

I support the 2nd amendment. But, I don't know, can we dig a little deeper here? This is what gun control proponents support:

They are clearly in the majority.

The banning of "assault weapons" is the one that raises a red flag.

My semi-auto sport rifles that millions of people own work just like the boogeyman "assault weapons".

I'm not necessarily for banning assault style weapons either, right now I'm on the fence. I think the argument to ban them is valid though and should be looked at. One of the things Emma Gonzalez wants to do is look at the definition of what exactly an assault weapon is, I think that's a good start. It might merely come down to accessories such as extended clips and bump stocks that currently some AR15s are equipped with and many that are not.

Now, back to your previous post, you now see why polling the 2nd amendment's popularity is pretty much pointless considering there are many opinions on what exactly the 2nd amendment is. It's much better to poll on specific gun control measures and judging by your reply you seem to only take issue with one of them.

Well that's fine, many people have asked about the definition of what an assault rifle is. Emma Gonzalez ? Lol ! I really don't need a 17 year old girl to work at defining it for me.

Right, you don't want the person who wants reasonable gun control that you can't even find an issue with to work on something where they will sure generate more of a result than you.

 

[rightwinger]

This is a good article, and it shows the visciousness of David Hogg.


David Hogg's attempt to end Laura Ingraham's career sets dangerous precedent

For Laura Ingraham, there was no choice but to apologize to Parkland school shooting activist David Hogg for her foolish tweet regarding the 17-year-old being rejected by several colleges.

"On reflection, in the spirit of Holy Week, I apologize for any upset or hurt my tweet caused him or any of the brave victims of Parkland," Ingraham wrote on Twitter. "For the record, I believe my show was the first to feature David immediately after that horrific shooting and even noted how 'poised' he was given the tragedy. As always he's welcome to return to the show anytime for a productive discussion."

David Hogg's attempt to end Laura Ingraham's career sets dangerous precedent

It is called accountability for your own actions

Laura Ingraham learned a valuable lesson

 

[mudwhistle]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

Speaking of abusing their rights as broadcasters:

Funkytown on Twitter

Don Lemon: "The president of the United States is racist.'

Ana Navarro: "Trump is ‘unfit to be a human"

Joy Behar mocks Mike Pence’s faith

Stephen Colbert: “The only thing your mouth is good for is being Vladimir Putin’s cuck holster.”

Not one advertiser pulled Ads.








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[DigitalDrifter]

"Ludicrous claims of him being a child actor or being coached soon followed and have, thankfully, been dismissed by those not living in a world of conspiracy theories or blinded by pure partisanship.

Know this:He may be 17 but should be treated like an adult after entering the arena and becoming a prominent voice in what has become the biggest story of the year thus far.

But things have gone sideways since. Hogg has played loose with more than a few facts and has leveled the same kind of personal attacks on which he's basing this boycott. And, through it all, almost all anchors and reporters have allowed him to go unchallenged out of that same fear of being seen as monsters for going after "the kid with the just cause."

There are exceptions to those not willing to challenge Hogg, starting first and foremost with conservative writer/commentator and podcast/radio host Ben Shapiro. "I look forward to Hogg's apologies to Republicans ('sick f***ers'), Dana Loesch (she was 'hypocritical and disgusting' for criticizing Broward Sheriff Scott Israel), and Marco Rubio (he said Rubio was bribed by the NRA to give away children's lives)," Shapiro wrote in the online publication he founded, The Daily Wire.

"You may not like what Ingraham said. You may disagree with it. I did. But it isn't remotely CLOSE to the level of viciousness with which Hogg has attacked people who disagree with him," Shapiro added.

And Shapiro is correct. As is Parkland student Kyle Kashuv."

 

[DigitalDrifter]

This is a good article, and it shows the visciousness of David Hogg.


David Hogg's attempt to end Laura Ingraham's career sets dangerous precedent

For Laura Ingraham, there was no choice but to apologize to Parkland school shooting activist David Hogg for her foolish tweet regarding the 17-year-old being rejected by several colleges.

"On reflection, in the spirit of Holy Week, I apologize for any upset or hurt my tweet caused him or any of the brave victims of Parkland," Ingraham wrote on Twitter. "For the record, I believe my show was the first to feature David immediately after that horrific shooting and even noted how 'poised' he was given the tragedy. As always he's welcome to return to the show anytime for a productive discussion."

David Hogg's attempt to end Laura Ingraham's career sets dangerous precedent

It is called accountability for your own actions

Laura Ingraham learned a valuable lesson

Yes hopefully she has learned that the MSM is going to cover this saint with kid gloves who is above ridicule, and that any legitimate criticism of him is off limits.

 

[HappyJoy]

I support the 2nd amendment. But, I don't know, can we dig a little deeper here? This is what gun control proponents support:

They are clearly in the majority.

I support all five choices if they control criminal action.. Sadly, none of them will prevent or reduce gun violence. Every one of the choices are intended to hamper and restrict law abiding citizens and not criminals.

With the exception of the last one about banning assault weapons not one of them can be remotely seen as restricting legal gun ownership from law abiding citizens.

The shooter in Parkland was under 21 and used an assault styled weapon.

Almost every mass shooter uses an assault styled weapon

There are loopholes around the background check system, those should be closed as killers have bought guns this way in the past. Media Reports Ohio Killer 'Likely' Got Guns Through Private Sales

How are armed guards at school limiting your 2nd amendment rights?

At least you were smart enough to avoid the point of my post, that being the kids at Parkland have the favor of the vast majority of Americans and it is people like you who are out of step (as usual) with the mainstream.

I said I support all 5 items being employed for criminals. Not law abiding citizens. And we are the major part of the "mainstream."

Oy. What a way to have your cake and eat it to. "I support all this shit, but just for criminals so I don't support any of this shit for the rest of us".

Talk about spineless. Just say up front that you don't support gun control at all which puts you at odds with most Americans. Just be happy with your contritioness but don't be surprised when you lose the debate.

I firmly believe in gun control as stipulated in the 2nd Amendment. You lost.

The 2nd has left it open. The fact that you can't find an argument against sensible gun control is something you should work on.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, I'm kinda wondering why she thought it necessary to bring Holy Week into the apology.

She insulted him during Holy Week as well, was that insult also in the spirit of Holy Week?

And no, this isn't the end of free speech. Ingram said something stupid, Hogg asked for a boycott of her advertisers, and the advertisers had the choice to stick with her or leave. They voted with their feet and chose to leave.

Interestingly enough, walking away from Ingram is free speech as well. They are saying they won't support her because of her stupid comments.

No, I don't see any threat to free speech here. People are free to say something stupid about others, and the other people who the comment was made about are free to respond with commentary of their own.

Nothing illegal has happened, and nobody really got hurt.

But, Ingram IS being held accountable for her remarks that she made in the first place. That's another aspect of free speech, holding the person who said something accountable for what they said.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Free speech is a guaranteed right under the Constitution so voicing an opinion about something or someone is protected so long as it is truthful and does not inflict harm. Free Speech today is already under fire from some who want to modify its meaning for example "hate speech". So there are already efforts underway to downgrade free speech from a right to a privilege which is an early step to abolish actual free speech as too dangerous to be allowed which is the argument used by all totalitarian governments.

Ingraham made her own bed because she was unprofessional when she used Facebook as a forum to impugn Hogg's positions. But Hogg's response was far more dangerous to free speech because he used his speech as revenge speech to destroy Ingraham financially.

Free speech is the one thing that separates the US from most of the rest of the world but it is not bulletproof and it can be gone in a heartbeat if the people are afraid to use it for fear of losing their incomes

Congress shall pass no laws......

That is the extent of free speech. You can’t be imprisoned or fined for executing your right to free speech. Many countries still lack that right

Never meant that there are no consequences for what you say. You can be fired or lose your sponsors

Hey dumbass, how is it that anyone knows who Hogg is?

 

[tinydancer]

Hogg is the penultimate snowflake. Calling him a survivor when he wasn't even there is appalling. But it shows the level of bullshit the ******* progressives are willing to stoop to.

Hogg is an asshole. .