Thank you. Can you tell me more about.... " The Spiritual Earth was created by God ... of the flesh, the Bible teaches it as "vainity and vexation of Spirit" ?"
1] The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.
2] Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.
3] What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun?
-- Ecclesiastes 1
Here we're interpreting "vanity" as "of the flesh" or "concern over the flesh" ... think Vanity Smurf, the one who was always admiring himself in his mirror ... what profit did he enjoy in such labors? ... only being more attractive to that broke down whore they kept around ...
Further:
14] I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.
-- ibid
I could go on cherry-picking lines, best you read the whole of the book yourself and perhaps see how this all fits into context ... from this we can see where the precept "If you interpret the Bible literally, you're wrong" comes from, not that I entirely agree ... but I do completely agree with the converse "If you don't interpret the Bible spiritually, you're wrong" ... every passage in every book has a moral lesson ... stories told around the campfire to teach folks a better way to live their lives based on millennia of human experiences ...
We'll never know when humans first realized that bother/sister babymaking was a bad idea ... long before we understood this on the DNA level ... but there it is prohibited 3,500 years ago ... and we do (correctly) interpret this in the flesh, but the deeper spiritual meaning is more significant and more important to understand ... babymaking by convenience, without the difficult task of building a proper marital relationship ... and thus we can extend this understanding to our co-workers, aunts and uncles, trees, sheep, the list goes on ... this convenience is easy and lazy satisfying only the flesh, and vexing the of the spirit ... turning our eyes from God ...
Much of the rest of the Bible is beyond my understanding ... I was a profound and active whoremonger when I came to Christ ... so this and some other passages rung true for me and showed me exactly how I had to change to follow Christ ... and to this day, chasing skirt is something I must be on my guard against ... speaking to a woman's face rather than her breasts ... and I'm absolutely a better man today by setting aside my lustful cravings and attending with a whole heart matters of God and the Holy Spirit ...
I can leave work everyday lamenting that this is where I met her ... but there it is ... a line I will not cross under any circumstances ...
ETA: "In the beginning, God created [spiritual] Earth and [spiritual] Heaven" ... two people looking at each other agreeing that living like animals isn't all that great of an idea ... thus the advent of "brotherhood" and the end of ceasless fighting over mates and resources that we see among the beasts of the field ... God is Love ...
"If you interpret the Bible literally, you're wrong" comes from, not that I entirely agree ... but I do completely agree with the converse "If you don't interpret the Bible spiritually, you're wrong" ... every passage in every book has a moral lesson ... stories told around the campfire to teach folks a better way to live their lives based on millennia of human experiences ...
I quite like what you said about interpreting the Bible spiritually and I wholeheartedly agree. I find it to be like peeling back layers of an onion. I agree that almost every passage has a moral lesson and that these accounts served a practical purpose for ancient man; to pass down a better way of being. Which is the reason the accounts were passed down in the first place; to inform future generations. It was ancient man's way of sharing knowledge, wisdom and history. Some people can't wrap their mind around the fact that the Bible is effectively a how to book. It's a book about how to live life and how not to live life. It's the how not to live life part that seems to confuse people. But it's because the Bible is brutally honest about the flaws of its hero's that give credibility to the words.
Morals are effectively standards. For any given thing there exists a standard which is the highest possible standard. This standard exists independent of anything else. It is in effect a universal standard. It exists for a logical reason. When we deviate from the standard and normalize our deviance from the standard, eventually the logical reason for why the standard exists will be discovered. So everything you are saying here is quite true. When we deviate from a standard, predictable surprises will eventually occur. Hence the importance of passing down lessons learned to future generations lest they think diddling co-workers, other people's spouses, children, aunts and uncles, trees, sheep, etc. are without consequences.We'll never know when humans first realized that bother/sister babymaking was a bad idea ... long before we understood this on the DNA level ... but there it is prohibited 3,500 years ago ... and we do (correctly) interpret this in the flesh, but the deeper spiritual meaning is more significant and more important to understand ... babymaking by convenience, without the difficult task of building a proper marital relationship ... and thus we can extend this understanding to our co-workers, aunts and uncles, trees, sheep, the list goes on ... this convenience is easy and lazy satisfying only the flesh, and vexing the of the spirit ... turning our eyes from God ...
Only a good man knows just how bad he is. A bad man has no clue. I am no saint. Please don't ask me to confess my sins. We don't have enough time for that. But I would be more than happy to discuss the practical application of confession and forgiveness.Much of the rest of the Bible is beyond my understanding ... I was a profound and active whoremonger when I came to Christ ... so this and some other passages rung true for me and showed me exactly how I had to change to follow Christ ... and to this day, chasing skirt is something I must be on my guard against ... speaking to a woman's face rather than her breasts ... and I'm absolutely a better man today by setting aside my lustful cravings and attending with a whole heart matters of God and the Holy Spirit ...
AmenETA: "In the beginning, God created [spiritual] Earth and [spiritual] Heaven" ... two people looking at each other agreeing that living like animals isn't all that great of an idea ... thus the advent of "brotherhood" and the end of ceasless fighting over mates and resources that we see among the beasts of the field ... God is Love ...