Late news on how Putin is faring

You've got your position because of that "bullshit". America was built by immigrants (including involuntarily immigrants) from the "larger world".

Who told you that? Hint. They were shit talking.

You can try to fix it. Declare "America for Rednecks", and face the consequences.

That is what MAGA is. That is what MAGA is doing, right now. You are watching it in real time.

You had a chance to hop on this bandwagon. It was dumb of putin to pass on it.


And what your "normies" can do? Your normies can't even maintain nuclear weapons properly.

In that case, you have nothign to fear. We will fail and you will... somehow have everythign work out for you.

It's a nice fantasy. IN reality your people are dyign in real time. Please stop killing yourselves.

I am asking you to stop killing your people.



The laws of sea trading and the traditions of sea war were invented long before the USA declared independence.
Correct. unlawful combatants, pirates and smugglers can just be killed out of hand. That is just good common sense.


No.

Wow! Really? Anyway, even in the worst case, we won't be the only ones who died out.

Why choose that? Just stoop killing your own people.
 
Planet of the Apes

Daffy Zavvy is repeating Globilly bullshit. Soros hires provocateurs in both the formerly United States and Russia to push for Mutually Assured Destruction, which is a necessary first step for the creation of a One World, Third World Order.

Agreed. hopefully, even if he won't admit it, adn keeps cashing his checks, that at some point he realizes that sending russian men to their deaths is not good for Russia.
 
E Pluribus Unum East

This is an existential war for Russia. Otherwise, it will go back to the Middle Ages, when it was only a petty Slavic principality surrounded by constantly warring mini-me non-nations totally defenseless against the Mongol savages.

That is one possiblity. With good policies, it could do better.

If they had jumped at the peace talk Trump was offering day one, they could have laid the ground work for a long term ALLIANCE.

But that ship has probably sailed.
 
Stalin's Draw Play

That was Hitler's message, too. The stubborn Russians wouldn't listen then, and they won't listen to this century's Globalists either.

It is Empress Huma who will wind up broke and exhausted, not Putin. Soros and the Neo-Cons are the ones who should back off before their regime collapses into rubble and dust.

In the 40s, Russian women were still having 5 o 6 kids each. Stalin could afford to piss away a whole generation because there was another one coming along right after it.


NOw? NOt so much.

And yes, I know Ukraine is also fucked and being fucked.
 
Not too much. But unfortunately, previous administrations got us involved.


So, here we are.


We're looking to end this, so we can... do something else next, hopefully something constructive.
You could end it very quickly, it will end and Russia will end it, but it will be just more bloody because of the weapons Nato have been sending to the Kiev regime and your tax $$$, speaking of weapons many have been sold on the black market.
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As if current administration is somhow different.

We are trying to cut a deal that everyone can live with. That is different. Please stop shit talking. It is rude.

Here you are. Choosing between surrender and suicide. It's not that you didn't deserve it.

We aren't the ones killing ourselves. That is you guys. This is a PROXY WAR for US. Like Vietnam was for you. That was fun and easy for your side, while it really hurt us.

Only, you are in worse shape than we were back then.

You can easily do it. Drop your weapons, turn around and run as fast as you can, praying for Russians not shooting in your back.

Buddy. The alternative to MAGA is the west continuing to feed weapons to Ukraine and watching your nation burn itself out.


We are your only hope of a reasonable out. We are the closest thing you have in the world to a friend.
 
You could end it very quickly, it will end and Russia will end it, but it will be just more bloody because of the weapons Nato have been sending to the Kiev regime and your tax $$$, speaking of weapons many have been sold on the black market.
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A Russian victory seems unlikely and even if they manage to pull it off, the damage is already done.

Russia is in a shambles. Their economy is shit. Their military is bled white. Their demographics, already terrible, has taken ANOTHER hit.
 
A Russian victory seems unlikely and even if they manage to pull it off, the damage is already done.

Russia is in a shambles. Their economy is shit. Their military is bled white. Their demographics, already terrible, has taken ANOTHER hit.
Stop listening to CNN and fox, you just don't have a grip on reality.
 
We are trying to cut a deal that everyone can live with. That is different. Please stop shit talking. It is rude.
I'm not rude. I'm just realistic. You are still trying to push unacceptable terms (terms, Russia can't live with). So, practically speaking, there is no difference at all.

We aren't the ones killing ourselves. That is you guys. This is a PROXY WAR for US. Like Vietnam was for you. That was fun and easy for your side, while it really hurt us.
Really? Is that why you've shootdowned your government?

Only, you are in worse shape than we were back then.
Did you posses gigaton-class strategic torpedoes back in times of Vietnam war?

Buddy. The alternative to MAGA is the west continuing to feed weapons to Ukraine and watching your nation burn itself out.
As if with MAGA the west don't feed weapons to Ukraine.

We are your only hope of a reasonable out. We are the closest thing you have in the world to a friend.
It mostly depends of the definition of the "reasonable out". I very doubt that you actually mean Russian flags airing over radioactive ruins of Pentagon as a "reasonable out" for America.
 
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YOu are aware of how bad russian demographics are, aren't you?
They just saved and liberated more than seven million of Russians. And they are going to liberate twenty million more in few years.
 
I'm not rude. I'm just realistic. You are still trying to push unacceptable terms (terms, Russia can't live with). So, practically speaking, there is no difference at all.

Such as?

Really? Is that why you've showdowned your government?

Our political issues are not likely to come to a head soon enough to save you.

Did you posses gigaton-class strategic torpedoes back in times of Vietnam war?

We had enough...oh, you implying a threat? LOL.

The weapons will flow till you cut a deal.

As if with MAGA the west don't feed weapons to Ukraine.

STOP PLAYING DUMB. WE unlike the others, are open to PEACE.


It mostly depends of the definition of the "reasonable out". I very doubt that you actually mean Russian flags airing over radioactive ruins of Pentagon as a "reasonable out" for America.

Correct. That is not on the table. YOur survival is.
 
Keeping Neo-Nazi regime in Kiev, keeping NATO forces in Eastern Europe, keeping American nukes in Europe, stealing Russian property in Europe and America and a lot of other unacceptable things.

Our political issues are not likely to come to a head soon enough to save you.
Really? We'll see.

We had enough...oh, you implying a threat? LOL.

The weapons will flow till you cut a deal.
Or until all of you are dead.
STOP PLAYING DUMB. WE unlike the others, are open to PEACE.

No. You don't want peace. You just wan a ceasefire for your exhausted proxies. We want a reliable and lasting peace.
Correct. That is not on the table. YOur survival is.
Even in the worst scenario, if we don't survive - you don't survive either. But in more realistic scenarios it is your survival on the table.
BTW, did you watch "A house of dynamite" movie?
 
Okay, we'll talk of our future on the ruins of the figurative Reichstag. Let me segway for now into a little bit of off topic: is there some hidden sense in your "YOur" spelling? Is it kind of Your/Our thing or just a typo?
 
Keeping Neo-Nazi regime in Kiev, keeping NATO forces in Eastern Europe, keeping American nukes in Europe, stealing Russian property in Europe and America and a lot of other unacceptable things.

You'll get over that. Sooner or later.

Really? We'll see.


Or until all of you are dead.


No. You don't want peace. You just wan a ceasefire for your exhausted proxies. We want a reliable and lasting peace.

Even in the worst scenario, if we don't survive - you don't survive either. But in more realistic scenarios it is your survival on the table.
BTW, did you watch "A house of dynamite" movie?

Didn't bother. Why?
 
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Okay, we'll talk of our future on the ruins of the figurative Reichstag. Let me segway for now into a little bit of off topic: is there some hidden sense in your "YOur" spelling? Is it kind of Your/Our thing or just a typo?

Just a typo. I type quickly and don't care about either the typos nor the shit talk some poster do about it.
 
We'll see. I think, that the escalation to the level of a nuclear war is much more possible.

Nice movie. Just another picture about what happens when you do want to fight Russia.


So, PUtin runs out the clock and dies of old age, say in the next 3 years, then what?

New guy comes in and admits the war failed?
 
So, PUtin runs out the clock and dies of old age, say in the next 3 years, then what?

New guy comes in and admits the war failed?
Of course, no. The new guy needs to ensure his position and he still have NATO forces in Eastern Europe. If he try to allow them to stay there - he'll got killed (either by NATO or Russians).
So, he'll try to eliminate them one way or another. One can't admit that a war for survival is failed, coz it is a suicide. And people, usually, don't like committing suicide.

You know, we can allow discussion should Poland or Cuba be socialistic or capitalistic, should they trade more with Russia or with Germany. But whoever is in charge, they can't allow Russian missiles on Cuba or American missiles in Poland or Romania, they can't allow genocide of Russian-speaking people in Ukraine or English-speaking people in Canada.
And even lesser they can agree with "decolonisation" of America or Russia.
 
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