Late news on how Putin is faring

I sorry nato expansion panicked you. We should have been more careful about your feelings.

But regardless, your reaction is the problem now. YOu started a war, and you lost it.

Time for you to deal with that.




If ukraine collapsed tomorrow, you would have still lost. You lost a million men you could not afford to lose. You lost the time the ones that didn't die, were in the field instead of making babies.

Not to mention all the equipment and money that you will be spending the next 20 or 30 years trying to replace.




Sounds like crazy talk.
You have started this conflict, and, technically it's not a war yet. But if you don't start acting as reasonable people (what you are not going to do, as much as I can understand) there will be a war. Of course, we are not losing. We are winning, and if you continue be that self-blinded and wishful thinking - we are going to win the WWIII without significant losses.
You are making (and importing) babies (most of whom won't grow up enough to become soldiers) and we are making tanks, robots, missiles and nukes. If you truly believe that the next war will be fought by almost unarmed men and women, well, proceed. It's your funeral.
 
You have started this conflict, and, technically it's not a war yet. But if you don't start acting as reasonable people (what you are not going to do, as much as I can understand) there will be a war. Of course, we are not losing. We are winning, and if you continue be that self-blinded and wishful thinking - we are going to win the WWIII without significant losses.
You are making (and importing) babies (most of whom won't grow up enough to become soldiers) and we are making tanks, robots, missiles and nukes. If you truly believe that the next war will be fought by almost unarmed men and women, well, proceed. It's your funeral.


Buddy, it's a war and you are losing. You are buying small land gains with the lives of your young men AND THE CHILDREN THEY WILL NEVER HAVE.


That is not a win.


I am amazed that Putin didn't jump at the chance to get out of this meatgrinder.
 
Buddy, it's a war and you are losing. You are buying small land gains with the lives of your young men AND THE CHILDREN THEY WILL NEVER HAVE.


That is not a win.


I am amazed that Putin didn't jump at the chance to get out of this meatgrinder.
We are not in the land-buying business. We are in the Nazi-killing business. And the business is going quite well. We pay only one our life for 36 lifes of NATO proxies, and if we continue this way - in less than two years all Ukrainian adult males (and many European "mercenaries") will be wiped out and we'll take their women and children. And, when we win - Europe will pay through the nose (and not only in money, lands and human lives).
Everyone wants to go home. We all value peace and prosperity. But for coming home - it must be safe (i.e. without NATO IRBMs in Europe, and NATO forces in Eastern Europe) and rich (i.e. you should pay at least 7 dollars for every our dollar stolen by you, or forced to be invested in the war). There is no reason to come home, marry, make a child, and in few years see your house burnt down, your wife raped by German swines and you toddler-son killed.
Is Europe ready to roll back and pay the price? I don't think so. Not yet. You definitely are asking for a little lesson. You cities should be burnt down. Your daughter should be raped. And your sons should be sold in Arab brothels. And this is exactly what will happen with you if are too stupid to accept our generous peace offer.
 
We are not in the land-buying business. We are in the Nazi-killing business. And the business is going quite well. We pay only one our life for 36 lifes of NATO proxies, and if we continue this way - in less than two years all Ukrainian adult males (and many European "mercenaries") will be wiped out and we'll take their women and children. And, when we win - Europe will pay through the nose (and not only in money, lands and human lives).
Everyone wants to go home. We all value peace and prosperity. But for coming home - it must be safe (i.e. without NATO IRBMs in Europe, and NATO forces in Eastern Europe) and rich (i.e. you should pay at least 7 dollars for every our dollar stolen by you, or forced to be invested in the war). There is no reason to come home, marry, make a child, and in few years see your house burnt down, your wife raped by German swines and you toddler-son killed.
Is Europe ready to roll back and pay the price? I don't think so. Not yet. You definitely are asking for a little lesson. You cities should be burnt down. Your daughter should be raped. And your sons should be sold in Arab brothels. And this is exactly what will happen with you if are too stupid to accept our generous peace offer.

I get that you are angry.

But the fact is that you failed to conquer the ukraine in a reasonable time frame or at a reasonable cost.

Holding to a losing hand is not wise. You need to cut your losses and cut a deal. The sooner the better.


Trump would give you a good deal. YOu give him PEACE and he will give you a sweet deal where you can start putting your economy back together and making money and babies, which is what you NEED.

One of the main factors in the drop in fertility, is urbanization.

your nation has to have one of the lowest population densities in the world. Yet your birth rate sucks.

you must be doing so much else wrong.


Imagine what the feel would be for the future in Russia, if your demographics were growing, while all the europeans and the east asias were dropping like a rock.
 
Trump would give you a good deal. YOu give him PEACE and he will give you a sweet deal
Who the **** is he to give anything to us? We'll take everything we need by ourselves. Putin is talking politely to him still cause he hasn't lost hope of bettering US - Russia relationships. Though **** them if you asked me. We're not into territorial gains, for the umpteenth time, we're into exterminating the Ukie army or whatever's left of it, which is not much, despite what your MSM shits on you.
 
Who the **** is he to give anything to us? We'll take everything we need by ourselves. Putin is talking politely to him still cause he hasn't lost hope of bettering US - Russia relationships. Though **** them if you asked me. We're not into territorial gains, for the umpteenth time, we're into exterminating the Ukie army or whatever's left of it, which is not much, despite what your MSM shits on you.


That would have been a reasonable position on day one, when you might still have believed that you would roll over the country in a matter of weeks.


This is what, THREE YEARS later?

It's a blood bath. Your army failed to deliver. I get that that is upsetting, but at some point you need to realize a policy failed and cut your losses, and thus cut a deal.


Just feeing more men into the meatgrinder, to avoid admitting defeat, is not bravery.. It's stupid.

The chance of a real win, a win that is worth it, at this point, seems... low.
 
What defeat is that? The 2 mil of KIAs and twice as much limbless or otherwise crippled Ukies? The la-la land you're living in and reality are not the same. Take your head out of your ass or Litvin's ass for that matter. The Russians are coming, whether you like it or not.
 
I sorry nato expansion panicked you. We should have been more careful about your feelings.

But regardless, your reaction is the problem now. YOu started a war, and you lost it.

Time for you to deal with that.




If ukraine collapsed tomorrow, you would have still lost. You lost a million men you could not afford to lose. You lost the time the ones that didn't die, were in the field instead of making babies.

Not to mention all the equipment and money that you will be spending the next 20 or 30 years trying to replace.




Sounds like crazy talk.

NATO expansion was never supposed to happen. but again, you can't make good deals with bad people

Would the US be OK if Russia or China wanted to park medium range missiles and bioweapon labs in Mexico
 
That would have been a reasonable position on day one, when you might still have believed that you would roll over the country in a matter of weeks.


This is what, THREE YEARS later?

It's a blood bath. Your army failed to deliver. I get that that is upsetting, but at some point you need to realize a policy failed and cut your losses, and thus cut a deal.


Just feeing more men into the meatgrinder, to avoid admitting defeat, is not bravery.. It's stupid.

The chance of a real win, a win that is worth it, at this point, seems... low.

How is it you still don't understand that Russia has been fighting the entire war like the WWII Battle of Kursk?

Ukraine has been throwing themselves at fortified positions for 3 1/2 years!!!!!
 
What defeat is that? The 2 mil of KIAs and twice as much limbless or otherwise crippled Ukies? The la-la land you're living in and reality are not the same. Take your head out of your ass or Litvin's ass for that matter. The Russians are coming, whether you like it or not.

It is unlikely that the exchange rate is that good, and even if it was, it doesn't really matter.

The Russians can't afford the losses they are taking.

This is not the 1940s, when russian women were still having 5 or 6 kids each, to replace the men Stalin pissed away.


IF they were, I would agree with you.


Times have changed. RUSSIA has changed. You need to adjust your war fighting strategy to deal with that. And you have not.
 
NATO expansion was never supposed to happen. but again, you can't make good deals with bad people

Would the US be OK if Russia or China wanted to park medium range missiles and bioweapon labs in Mexico

Fair enough. And I would not have expanded nato the way that Bill the ******* retard Clinton did.


But, they tried a war to fix it, and they failed.


Time to face that and cut their losses. They are being stupid to pour more men and money down a hole.
 
It is unlikely that the exchange rate is that good, and even if it was, it doesn't really matter.
Did I say anything about the rate? The rate is 1000 divided by 31, which was the number of the dead we gave the Ukies back and they us. The ratio has remained roughly the same since the exchanges began to occur on a regular basis. So do the math and lament Hohols, not us. We're doing fine. Stalin or Putin, the vermin must be eliminated.
 
I wonder if he ever sits alone for a few minutes and thinks "what is G-d going to do with my soul when I pass from this world"?

Russia had some brilliant and creatives minds. They had astronauts, engineers, creative chess players and hockey players.

The system always eats up their talent or send their young to die. If any poor Russian had an inventive mind or was different, had anything to do with business or the human spirit to create and design, they were destroyed, often by jealous police agencies. In many ways like Canada today, "destroy them when they are young and keep them in their caste".

It's so bad that Canadians are shocked that an American auto company is headed back to America from Canada. Russia is the same. Their nepotism and kakistocracy have decimated their potential. How many potentially great minds and souls did Putin send to their deaths?

It's absurd. I guarantee you this is what Trump can't wrap his mind around and I agree. What a bloody waste of human souls. For nothing.
Some people are literally born evil.
Vladimir Putin is one of them. Rational thought doesn't apply to him. He's a sociopath who has absolutely zero care for people or animals or anything. He worships only one thing: power. And killing a million people is nothing to him, like snapping a finger and yawning.
 
Some people are literally born evil.
Vladimir Putin is one of them. Rational thought doesn't apply to him. He's a sociopath who has absolutely zero care for people or animals or anything. He worships only one thing: power. And killing a million people is nothing to him, like snapping a finger and yawning.
I thought it was Bart Simpson. Damn!
 
I get that you are angry.
Sorry. It's just my poor English. I'm not angry at all. You just made a mistake. I'm not going to judge you, anyone could do it in your circumstances. But now it's time to undone consequences of your mistake and roll back NATO's military infrastructure to, at least, 1997 borders. And here we have, basically, three options:
1. You undone it by yourself diplomatically. You may even leave NATO. It is the cheapest way for you. Actually, you might even earn some resources from Europe.
2. We undone it by our own military force and you do not intervene. You'll pay a lot, but not in your lands and not in millions of your citizens and you'll avoid nuclear annihilation.
3. We undone it, and you intervene. This would be your gravest mistake, quite likely - the last mistake in the history of the USA.

But the fact is that you failed to conquer the ukraine in a reasonable time frame or at a reasonable cost.
Really? Previous time retaking Ukraine took three years (plus at least twenty years of anti-guerilla warfare in Western Ukraine) and at least 7 million lives. Now it takes a bit more time but definitely much less lives.
I believe our current progress is quite reasonable (including attrition in the USA and NATO countries).

Holding to a losing hand is not wise. You need to cut your losses and cut a deal. The sooner the better.
No. As I said, we are not thinking here in the terms of cutting losses or taking land. We are thinking in the terms of elimination of the threat. Significance of a threat means than we should invest more, not less, in its elimination.

Trump would give you a good deal. YOu give him PEACE and he will give you a sweet deal where you can start putting your economy back together and making money and babies, which is what you NEED.
No. He just want to buy some time for NATO to attack us again later. Its not gonna work with us. And no, before making new money - it would be nice to return money Europe try to steal, and send those freaks who tryed to steal from Russians to swim in the concrete flippers.
We need real guarantees (not in words or papers) of safety for our people and we need guarantees of safety for our money. Without it making money and babies is simply meaningless.

One of the main factors in the drop in fertility, is urbanization.
May be. May be not.

your nation has to have one of the lowest population densities in the world. Yet your birth rate sucks.
But our production or nukes, tanks and missiles is skyrocketing. And we are not going to send our children to fight with their bare hands.

you must be doing so much else wrong.
We have pretty good reasons to be doing what we are doing.

Imagine what the feel would be for the future in Russia, if your demographics were growing, while all the europeans and the east asias were dropping like a rock.
I can easily imagine what will happen if our industrial production is dropping. NATO soldiers will come and kill all our unarmed children. And thats all.
 
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Some people are literally born evil.
Vladimir Putin is one of them. Rational thought doesn't apply to him. He's a sociopath who has absolutely zero care for people or animals or anything. He worships only one thing: power. And killing a million people is nothing to him, like snapping a finger and yawning.
I wish it were true. Making tough decisions is a part of his job, and I'm not sure that he (or anybody else) actually fit it.
 

"Isn't that time to ditch that damn fucked up Kiev, hah? Holy crap, they are running around like the ******* taxis! There we go! ****!"
 
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