Last night at MSG, a voice of reason spoke out of the night...

[CrusaderFrank]

Then why did he leave all the equipment there when he took the troop strength from 13,000 to less than 3,000?

He did not leave enough troops to get the equipment out. Did he plan to send more back?

I don't know and we'll never know. After Biden stole the election, Trumps plans were all kaput. It's dishonest to blame the Afghan Clusterfuck on Trump

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I don't know and we'll never know. After Biden stole the election, Trumps plans were all kaput. It's dishonest to blame the Afghan Clusterfuck on Trump

It is dishonest to blame it all on him, but he gets his share of the blame, though most falls on Biden.

The time to take out the equipment is when you had the troop strength to do so. There is literally no humanly possible way those let behind could have done it

 

[Ava]

I bet Trump did not have to pay for his celebrities to show up like FKH did.....Much less get heckled because they did not perform.

Looked like a good time.

Good times were had by all. I, sitting just 5 feet from my huge TV, felt like I was right in there with them all. It was the most exciting, invigorating, memorable experience I have had in a long time. Trump HAS the momentum and the world now knows it. Go Trump. MAGA!

 

[Darkwind]

That FB post is a flat out lie as is proven every time we have an election, be it a primary or the general.

Yeah, using her own words proves who is the liar.

 

[Orangecat]

How many wars did Trump end?
How many ended with Biden?

How many dumb questions will you ask?

 

[westwall]

When I saw the title of the thread I assumed it was about this from last night....

“There’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. I think it’s called Puerto Rico.”

You would. You're an obedient slave of the demofascist party.

 

[JGalt]

The Taliban never stuck to their side of the deal. Now, if we followed the “Trump plan”, that would result in delaying our withdrawal.

If we ignored the conditions based plan, which Trump already was doing since he was giving the Taliban concessions even after they violated it, then we would have withdrawn just as Biden did.

Either way, Trump had 4 years to end the war and he didn’t. That’s just a fact.

Of course it would have delayed the withdrawal, but those thirteen American soldiers would not have bee killed. Under the terms of the Trump administration's 2020 agreement with the Taliban, the U.S. agreed to a conditions-based withdrawal of all remaining forces from Afghanistan if the Taliban lived up to its own commitments.

The Taliban had breached those terms, and thus the U.S. would not have honored the deal. We would have still had a strong military presence in Afghanistan, which should have been the first thing Biden made sure of.

Any idiot knows you don't pull your troops out of a war zone before evacuating all civilian employees.

 

[Thunderbird]

Democrats who oppose war, Democrats with sense should oppose Kamala. When she loses we can build a Democratic Party we can be proud of.

“A vote for Kamala Harris is a vote for Dick Cheney and a vote for war, war and more war.”

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Yeah, using her own words proves who is the liar.

this is the lie...it is proven to be a lie every election cycle.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The Taliban had breached those terms

which terms of it did they not keep?

 

[Marener]

Of course it would have delayed the withdrawal, but those thirteen American soldiers would not have bee killed. Under the terms of the Trump administration's 2020 agreement with the Taliban, the U.S. agreed to a conditions-based withdrawal of all remaining forces from Afghanistan if the Taliban lived up to its own commitments.

The Taliban had breached those terms, and thus the U.S. would not have honored the deal. We would have still had a strong military presence in Afghanistan, which should have been the first thing Biden made sure of.

Any idiot knows you don't pull your troops out of a war zone before evacuating all civilian employees.

This is basically true. Trump would have kept the military in Afghanistan. We would still be there today because the Taliban breached the deal (which oddly didn’t prevent Trump from getting thousands of Taliban released from prison).

 

[Harpy Eagle]

We would still be there today because the Taliban breached the deal

what part of it did they breach?

 

[otto105]

It was certainly implied that she would, and the mob of Beyonce fans lined up all day thinking she would.

Do you really believe that the people were lined all day up to go into an arena just to see dry leftist political speeches?

Yes!

Just like you line up for the traveling clown car show for white fuckups.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Fat Orange Elvis is waging his war on America to become its first fascist leader.

Yeah, and I'm an astronaut.

 

[Marener]

what part of it did they breach?

They were attacking Afghanistan government forces.

 

[Mac-7]

I don’t think Russia is feeling all that emboldened. They are paying a pretty hefty price for invading Ukraine. Enough to think twice about further shenanigans. Not to mention giving China pause on any consideration of taking back Taiwan. Not that they’re in any position to do jack squat given their domestic economic troubles.

If you ask the posters here smitten with Yellow Fever they’ll tell us everything in communist china is just peachy keen

Couldnt be better according to them

 

[Harpy Eagle]

They were attacking Afghanistan government forces.

when did they start doing that?

 

[Marener]

when did they start doing that?

They kind of always did, but under terms of the deal they were supposed to stop.

The deal was so clearly negotiated as a “if you chill, we can leave and then you do whatever you want” deal. The Taliban couldn’t even do that.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

They kind of always did, but under terms of the deal they were supposed to stop.

The deal was so clearly negotiated as a “if you chill, we can leave and then you do whatever you want” deal. The Taliban couldn’t even do that.

It is my understanding they did stop attacking the Govt troops.

Can you provide some links to reports of them doing so?

 

[Marener]

It is my understanding they did stop attacking the Govt troops.

Can you provide some links to reports of them doing so?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-afghanistan-taliba/taliban-step-up-attacks-on-afghan-forces-since-signing-u-s-deal-data-idUSKBN22D5S7/