Mushroom
Gold Member
It is the same issue since the Younger Dryas.
The planet has warmed multiple times since the Younger Dryas past what it is today, and for some reason we keep getting slammed back to Glacial temperatures. I believe it is completely natural, but the hype is completely man made because of how they both present the data, cherry pick the data, and try to pretend the facts are not real.
Ever notice that they all start their clocks of what temperatures "should be" in the freaking Little Ice Age? They literally try to pretend the "normal temperatures" are right smack dead in the middle of the coldest period in over 2,000 years. That literally is like sticking the thermostat of your house inside your refrigerator (or inside your garage). And even more disturbing, that whenever there has been a cold event in the past 5,000 years they treat it as completely natural. And if there was ever a warming event they scream it was either not real or "regional".
The warming is natural, everything based in geology and evolution and many other sciences proves it is natural. Our planet wants to be hotter, it's normally much hotter than now. Yet you have a cadre that demands that things never change, and want everything to be tomorrow exactly as it is today.
However, based on the geological record, at this point we should be cooling by now. Temperatures should have continued to increase some 13kya, and not stopped rising until hitting roughly 10C or more past those we see today. And remained at those temperatures for a few thousand years before cooling again. But this time, that did not happen.
But here is the thing that causes me to shake my head at them. Bring up actual scientific facts (like almost all plants past grass in Western North America are pyrophytes), and you see them respond with their fingers in their ears and shaking their head. Or that of course the megafauna almost all went extinct, gigantic sizes are a cold weather adaptation and evolution favors smaller animals in hotter climates, and you get the same response.
People who claim to love science suddenly becoming complete morons and denying science because it goes against their beliefs that humans cause everything bad. Even screaming "fire is bad" over entire continents where the freaking plants evolved to require fire in order to reproduce.
Whenever some retard tries to scream that "global warming" is causing fires in places like California or Australia, I want to smack them in the head with a eucalyptus trunk. Pretty much all of the plants in those areas (as well as Southern Europe) have a rather unique evolutionary adaptation. Not only to better survive fires, but many of them actually demand fires in order to reproduce. Many are now starting to believe they might have actually "evolved to burn" in order to help propagate even faster.
These are adaptations that took millions of years to evolve, and very specific conditions where fire in those areas were extremely common. And are not found in adaptations of plants saw in Northern Europe, most of Asia, or Eastern North America. They certainly are not found in Africa or South America (outside of plants that migrated there from other areas).
Yet here we have anti-science religious zealots screaming we are making the fires worse. Meanwhile, I laugh because my oldest son is a Fireman. As in, he goes out every year and sets fires. Primarily in California, because decades ago some actually realized that the lack of fire was endangering a lot of plant species. By putting them out so fast, no new trees were growing (and those that were did not belong in that area).
