Thank you. It would also be well for the rest of us to remember not to take the bait. It is sometimes tough to remember not every post requires a response. Too easy to be drawn in, sometimes.
I agree with you and had those trolls on "ignore" until I was asked to help moderate. Now I'm required to read their drivel. I would like this forum to be a place where believers can discuss matters of faith without being deluged by the atheist trolls whose demons compel them to destroy such threads.
Thank you. I for one will appreciate your work here, which at times I know will be thankless. Therefore, the thank you now.
Why is it in the religion forum? Because it is religious in nature most of the time. White light. Loved ones greeting them, sent back, etc.
It immediately occurs to you that the experience might not have been "real", that there might be another explanation (such as brain chemistry)--but you believe those thoughts could not possibly have occurred to the persons having the experience? Unbelievable!
They called me a troll, thanks for telling me the truth, I thought something was horribly wrong with them, even thought they might have been insane. Not decent human beings of any rate. Again thank you, Stan.
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I was not angry or even upset. Amazed that you still don't understand I already know all of this--and have for years.I'm presenting my own view here.
Someone posting their views on a debate message board. And you then get angry when someone posts their own views in response to someone else's views.
But that's EXACTLY what this forum is.
Schizophrenics (and no, I'm not suggesting you are one) see things, they experience things. Hallucinations and delusions. They might thing these are true.
Humans dream.
The human brain works in ways we don't quite understand. We have the ability to see things that simply aren't true. Simple aren't there.
This is a fact, whether you like it or not.
When someone has a near death experience, what happens to them?
Sometimes the body goes through a situation it's never experienced before. It reacts. We're biological beings, we know that in different situations drugs are released into the body which change the way our body functions, like adrenaline, for example.
What does the brain do in certain situations?
Is it possible the brain dreams? Is it possible the brain hallucinates?
"people misinterpret their experience all the time (an optical illusion representing the most basic example)."The Neurology Of Near-Death Experiences
I've never had a patient confess to having had a near-death experience (NDE), but recently I came across a fascinating book called The Spiritual Doorway in the Brain by Kevin Nelson, M.D. that reports as many as 18 million Americans may have.
"usually more as a result of their interpretation of the experience (i.e., the afterlife is real) than as a result of the experience itself."
"In his book Nelson, notes that normally 20% of the heart's blood flow is directed to the brain, but that it can drop as low as 6% or so before we fall unconscious (and even at this level, no permanent injury will result). Nelson further observes that when our blood pressure drops low and we faint, the vagus nerve (a large nerve that connects to the heart) tilts consciousness toward REM sleep—but interestingly in some people not all the way. A number of subjects seem to be susceptible to what he calls "REM intrusion.""
So, potentially people lose oxygen to the brain and essentially sleep.
I'm presenting my own view here.
Someone posting their views on a debate message board. And you then get angry when someone posts their own views in response to someone else's views.
But that's EXACTLY what this forum is.
Schizophrenics (and no, I'm not suggesting you are one) see things, they experience things. Hallucinations and delusions. They might thing these are true.
Humans dream.
The human brain works in ways we don't quite understand. We have the ability to see things that simply aren't true. Simple aren't there.
This is a fact, whether you like it or not.
When someone has a near death experience, what happens to them?
Sometimes the body goes through a situation it's never experienced before. It reacts. We're biological beings, we know that in different situations drugs are released into the body which change the way our body functions, like adrenaline, for example.
What does the brain do in certain situations?
Is it possible the brain dreams? Is it possible the brain hallucinates?
The Neurology Of Near-Death Experiences
I've never had a patient confess to having had a near-death experience (NDE), but recently I came across a fascinating book called The Spiritual Doorway in the Brain by Kevin Nelson, M.D. that reports as many as 18 million Americans may have.
"people misinterpret their experience all the time (an optical illusion representing the most basic example)."
"usually more as a result of their interpretation of the experience (i.e., the afterlife is real) than as a result of the experience itself."
"In his book Nelson, notes that normally 20% of the heart's blood flow is directed to the brain, but that it can drop as low as 6% or so before we fall unconscious (and even at this level, no permanent injury will result). Nelson further observes that when our blood pressure drops low and we faint, the vagus nerve (a large nerve that connects to the heart) tilts consciousness toward REM sleep—but interestingly in some people not all the way. A number of subjects seem to be susceptible to what he calls "REM intrusion.""
So, potentially people lose oxygen to the brain and essentially sleep. Well when the nurse asked me what I saw when I looked down. I described everything I saw and she said I was exactly right. I'm open to discussion, I'm not open dripping brutally criticized and being called names. That is as childish as Trump was. Civilization it's based on people being civil with one another.
No one likes to be patronized. What you posted is like informing us the sun rises in the East. Duh. You act as if we don't already have your posted information--that while it has been known for years, decades, you were the only one of us that is even aware of it.
