"Knockout"... Tell me why these aren't Hate Crimes?...

[Asclepias]

Any way you spin it, no one can escape the fact that there is endemic violence with urban black american culture and that these knock-out games are symptomatic of it. MSM bends over backwards to try to hide it, but the problem is that so many things are recorded, and well...black is black.

Except for the fact that your viewpoint is not a fact. The only thing endemic is that people will lash out when they feel they are constantly being screwed over. Now if you can point to this knockout behavior being done equally to all ethnicities you may have a point. My guess is a large majority of the victims are white.

My guess is that a large number of attackers think what they are doing is justified. Therefore it will grow and create an equal and opposite reaction among whites and any other ethnicity who feels hunted.

I would agree which is why I said its stupid and dangerous.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Eric Holder has said hate crimes are only "White on black" not "Black on white." So it goes in 'Holder's America.'

He never said that.

1. "For much of his life, Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. carried around something peculiar…an old clipping of a quote from Harlem preacher Reverend Samuel D. Proctor. Holder put the clipping in his wallet in 1971, when he was studying history at Columbia University, and kept it in wallet after wallet over the ensuing decades. What were Proctor’s words that Holder found so compelling?

“Blackness is another issue entirely apart from class in America. No matter how affluent, educated and mobile [a black person] becomes, his race defines him more particularly than anything else.”…

When asked to explain the passage, Holder replied, “It really says that… I am not the tall U.S. attorney, I am not the thin United States Attorney. I am the black United States attorney. And he was saying that no matter how successful you are, there’s a common cause that bonds the black United States attorney with the black criminal or the black doctor with the black homeless person.”…It may seem shocking to hear these racialist views ascribed to America’s top law enforcement officer. But to people who have worked inside the Civil Rights Division at the Department of Justice, these attitudes are perfectly familiar."
DOJ Whistleblower J. Christian Adams Releases New Book | Video | TheBlaze.com





2. “Has anyone asked Holder what exactly is the “common cause” that binds the black attorney general and the black criminal? More important, what should the black attorney general do about this common cause? Should the black criminal feel empathy for the black attorney general or more likely, do the favors only flow in one direction?

Holder’s explanation of Proctor’s quote offers some key insights into our attorney generals’ worldview.

First, being “more particular” than anything else, skin color limits and defines Americans- in other words, race comes first for Holder.

Second, despite Americans’ widespread belief in trans-racial principles such as individual liberty and equal protection, blacks are expected to show solidarity with other blacks. And third, black law enforcement officers are expected to show this solidarity toward their racial compatriots, including black criminals.”
J. Christian Adams, “Injustice: Exposing The Racial Agenda of the Obama Justice Department,” p. 2.

 

[Asclepias]

Any way you spin it, no one can escape the fact that there is endemic violence with urban black american culture and that these knock-out games are symptomatic of it. MSM bends over backwards to try to hide it, but the problem is that so many things are recorded, and well...black is black.

Except for the fact that your viewpoint is not a fact. The only thing endemic is that people will lash out when they feel they are constantly being screwed over. Now if you can point to this knockout behavior being done equally to all ethnicities you may have a point. My guess is a large majority of the victims are white.

You heave no idea how sick the game is, but your desperation in seeking justification is even more nauseating. I have lived overseas for some time and I am often asked why black Americans are so violent. The violence endemic in black urban culture is no secret despite political correctness.

There is a problem which is counter-productive to the international image of black Americans and blacks in general. Trying to justify it or shift the blame is increasingly thin to a better informed world.

I'm not desperate to justify anything. Where do you see me condoning the behavior? I simply stated you were wrong in your assessment. Deal with that and dont try to move the goal posts because you are probably very wrong. The behavior is not endemic to Black culture. Whites as a culture are way more violent.

 

[protectionist]

******* have to have something to when their not raping, pillaging, murdering, and flash mobbing convenience stores.

Nobody started a riot, but many people have suppressed their anger over the Zimmerman verdict. It is not a surprise that subconsciously teens have found a way to release such tensions.

Many people have expressed their anger over the Zimmerman arrest and charges. Subconciously, teens are finding a way to get themselves shot and killed. Strangest thing is how Sharpton and JJ have gotten away scott free on what they did. You'd think they'd at least have been punched out in a parking lot somewhere.

 

[Meathead]

Except for the fact that your viewpoint is not a fact. The only thing endemic is that people will lash out when they feel they are constantly being screwed over. Now if you can point to this knockout behavior being done equally to all ethnicities you may have a point. My guess is a large majority of the victims are white.

You heave no idea how sick the game is, but your desperation in seeking justification is even more nauseating. I have lived overseas for some time and I am often asked why black Americans are so violent. The violence endemic in black urban culture is no secret despite political correctness.

There is a problem which is counter-productive to the international image of black Americans and blacks in general. Trying to justify it or shift the blame is increasingly thin to a better informed world.

I'm not desperate to justify anything. Where do you see me condoning the behavior? I simply stated you were wrong in your assessment. Deal with that and dont try to move the goal posts because you are probably very wrong. The behavior is not endemic to Black culture. Whites as a culture are way more violent.

No one's buying that. The evidence is overwhelming.

 

[protectionist]

New Jersey Teens come up with a new game called "Knockout" - YouTube

I am Certain the Liberal Media tried REALLY hard to find Video of Packs of White Youth doing this to Blacks...

But those Videos just don't seem to be Surfacing.

This is probably the most Disturbing News Report I've seen on this issue.

Maybe it's going to start being taken Seriously now.

This shit was going on Regularly in Denver a few years back and it's been going on from Coast to Coast in almost every Urban area.

I Garundamntee you that if the Races were Reversed we'd have a "National Epidemic" on our hands of "Racism".

I'd be really Careful White Liberals about what you want to Hide about what's going in this Country. I Applaud this News Outlet for covering it, but the Liberals in the National Media aren't going to say a Damned thing.

There may start to be a Backlash against this crap and that's not going to end well for anyone.



peace...

They are hate crimes if their deliberately targetting whites, yes.

Sometimes its called polar bear hunting.

The New Urban Sport??Polar Bear Hunting? » UrbanGrounds

What is ‘polar bear hunting’?

It’s a racist assault by blacks (mostly young men) on whites (mostly men of any age). Most often it involves more than one attacker on a lone victim, and usually from behind with no warning.

In the Champaign, Ill. area “the number of reports of beatings to white men in Champaign appear to be coming in quicker than police can even process them.”

How long do you imagine this is going to continue without some whites going hunting on their own?

I didn't know the attacks were from behind. Maybe we'll have to start attaching small rear view mirrors to the brims of our caps (to go along with out 380. semiautomatics.)

 

[LoneLaugher]

No one should have the right to assault anyone.

History of what happened 50 years ago doesn't give anyone the right.

Who said anyone has such a right? NOBODY! That's who.

 

[LoneLaugher]

What in the whacky world of white douchebaghery are you ranting and raving about?

50 years ago?

No one has a right to assault people. Skin color need not matter and if it matters to you, maybe you're racist.

If I am a victim of KNOCKOUT, you had better believe I am going to the media and telling who it was whether it was black, white or Hispanic. (if IT'S ON TAPE) I don't care if anyone calls me a racist or not.

And that makes you different from anyone else here......HOW????

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I wouldn't count on the media to be the source of what constitutes "urban Black culture". Not very many of them have the faintest clue. Where did you get this 70% 30% figure? I am a father of daughters as well so I understand the delima. However, you have no choise but to accept it. You have to trust you raised your daughter to be able to see specific behaviors as bad or immoral and not blanket condemn cultures you have no real insight to.

I don't rely on the media for much of anything.
I don't need any "real insight"...the raw data is all you need. Crime statistics, the complete collapse of the family structure, extraordinarily few within the race condemning the culture, the popular musical artist and cultural icons...you would have to be an idiot, or a bleeding heart liberal to NOT be prejudicial...the numbers are impossible to ignore.

Thats fascinating since you just said you got "urban Black Culture" from the media. You appear to want to believe what you are told as long as it conforms to your prejudice without questioning. I thought everyone desired "real insight" so they can plan using the truth instead of some statistics. Where did you get this 70% 30% figure from again?

Ok...I see what you are doing. You would rather argue semantics that the issue, which I see you have ignored.
I look at race in the same way I look at everything else of significance - and this is something I have pounded in my children's brain since they were in middle school - you have to deal with things as they ARE, and not how you want them to be.
I am not in the least bit racist, as in I do not have any belief whatsoever that the black race is one iota less than whites on any scale...because of some inferiority within the race. The problems of the black race are by choice, not genetics.
The current culture in the black race, specifically the failure to accept responsibility of their problems, address the collapse of the family structure and it's damning affect on the success of black people in every category.
But NOOOOOO...instead they are not to blame. It is white people's fault. It's racism. And until the day comes where this erroneous nonsense is eradicated from blacks brains - nothing will improve for the race.

 

[Asclepias]

I don't rely on the media for much of anything.
I don't need any "real insight"...the raw data is all you need. Crime statistics, the complete collapse of the family structure, extraordinarily few within the race condemning the culture, the popular musical artist and cultural icons...you would have to be an idiot, or a bleeding heart liberal to NOT be prejudicial...the numbers are impossible to ignore.

Thats fascinating since you just said you got "urban Black Culture" from the media. You appear to want to believe what you are told as long as it conforms to your prejudice without questioning. I thought everyone desired "real insight" so they can plan using the truth instead of some statistics. Where did you get this 70% 30% figure from again?

Ok...I see what you are doing. You would rather argue semantics that the issue, which I see you have ignored.
I look at race in the same way I look at everything else of significance - and this is something I have pounded in my children's brain since they were in middle school - you have to deal with things as they ARE, and not how you want them to be.
I am not in the least bit racist, as in I do not have any belief whatsoever that the black race is one iota less than whites on any scale...because of some inferiority within the race. The problems of the black race are by choice, not genetics.
The current culture in the black race, specifically the failure to accept responsibility of their problems, address the collapse of the family structure and it's damning affect on the success of black people in every category.
But NOOOOOO...instead they are not to blame. It is white people's fault. It's racism. And until the day comes where this erroneous nonsense is eradicated from blacks brains - nothing will improve for the race.

While I agree with most of what you say you miss the first step in troubleshooting a problem. Why is this happening? No one should ever say "someone else is keeping me from succeeding". However, you would be a big fool not to acknowledge how the situation came about. The fact is that slavery and Jim Crow decimated the Black family. Ingrained societal norms still effect how people perceive you and cause more roadblocks. When whites understand to simple be quiet and stop denying it then that would probably get rid of a lot of anger.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Thats fascinating since you just said you got "urban Black Culture" from the media. You appear to want to believe what you are told as long as it conforms to your prejudice without questioning. I thought everyone desired "real insight" so they can plan using the truth instead of some statistics. Where did you get this 70% 30% figure from again?

Ok...I see what you are doing. You would rather argue semantics that the issue, which I see you have ignored.
I look at race in the same way I look at everything else of significance - and this is something I have pounded in my children's brain since they were in middle school - you have to deal with things as they ARE, and not how you want them to be.
I am not in the least bit racist, as in I do not have any belief whatsoever that the black race is one iota less than whites on any scale...because of some inferiority within the race. The problems of the black race are by choice, not genetics.
The current culture in the black race, specifically the failure to accept responsibility of their problems, address the collapse of the family structure and it's damning affect on the success of black people in every category.
But NOOOOOO...instead they are not to blame. It is white people's fault. It's racism. And until the day comes where this erroneous nonsense is eradicated from blacks brains - nothing will improve for the race.

While I agree with most of what you say you miss the first step in troubleshooting a problem. Why is this happening? No one should ever say "someone else is keeping me from succeeding". However, you would be a big fool not to acknowledge how the situation came about. The fact is that slavery and Jim Crow decimated the Black family. Ingrained societal norms still effect how people perceive you and cause more roadblocks. When whites understand to simple be quiet and stop denying it then that would probably get rid of a lot of anger.

Ancient history.
Let me allow to illuminate - today, perceived racism is causing more damage to black people than REAL racism did in the last century. And liberal social programs of the 1960's and 70's virtually shutdown any chance of advancement. It created a generation of dependence and excuse makers.
There is no argument, none, that racism held back black people until civil rights laws were passed. After that, things began to dramatically improve. If you know any history of your race, then you know the tremendous strides that were taking place in the 60's. It was far from where it should be, you bet - but change was happening - and fast. Then enter blindly stupid social engineering of the late 60'-70's and the race stagnated. And remains there still today.
However, as I also tell my children - YOU are the most responsible for your success - and YOU are the most responsible for your failure. Blame only solves the problem in your mind...but only in your mind.
The race MUST reverse the amoral behavior and most importantly - address the collapse of the family.

 

[Sunshine]

give us one example of a black on white "hate crime" prosecuted by Holder's DOJ

That's a different topic than quoting Holder. Hate crimes against whites are usually prosecuted to the fullest by the State therefore no need for the Feds to be involved.

You can provide a link supporting that contention, can you?

200 years ago
150 years ago
yesterday

 

[Asclepias]

Ok...I see what you are doing. You would rather argue semantics that the issue, which I see you have ignored.
I look at race in the same way I look at everything else of significance - and this is something I have pounded in my children's brain since they were in middle school - you have to deal with things as they ARE, and not how you want them to be.
I am not in the least bit racist, as in I do not have any belief whatsoever that the black race is one iota less than whites on any scale...because of some inferiority within the race. The problems of the black race are by choice, not genetics.
The current culture in the black race, specifically the failure to accept responsibility of their problems, address the collapse of the family structure and it's damning affect on the success of black people in every category.
But NOOOOOO...instead they are not to blame. It is white people's fault. It's racism. And until the day comes where this erroneous nonsense is eradicated from blacks brains - nothing will improve for the race.

While I agree with most of what you say you miss the first step in troubleshooting a problem. Why is this happening? No one should ever say "someone else is keeping me from succeeding". However, you would be a big fool not to acknowledge how the situation came about. The fact is that slavery and Jim Crow decimated the Black family. Ingrained societal norms still effect how people perceive you and cause more roadblocks. When whites understand to simple be quiet and stop denying it then that would probably get rid of a lot of anger.

Ancient history.
Let me allow to illuminate - today, perceived racism is causing more damage to black people than REAL racism did in the last century. And liberal social programs of the 1960's and 70's virtually shutdown any chance of advancement. It created a generation of dependence and excuse makers.
There is no argument, none, that racism held back black people until civil rights laws were passed. After that, things began to dramatically improve. If you know any history of your race, then you know the tremendous strides that were taking place in the 60's. It was far from where it should be, you bet - but change was happening - and fast. Then enter blindly stupid social engineering of the late 60'-70's and the race stagnated. And remains there still today.
However, as I also tell my children - YOU are the most responsible for your success - and YOU are the most responsible for your failure. Blame only solves the problem in your mind...but only in your mind.
The race MUST reverse the amoral behavior and most importantly - address the collapse of the family.

You just admitted you perceive Black people differently or is that somehow different? Racism didn't go away because of Civil Rights. You can't legislate how people feel and think due to ingrained norms. Those views have to change and its pretty much going to be a gradual process. Anything that reaffirms your previous racist beliefs will just snap you back to square one. its human nature.

 

[Katzndogz]

I remember the jim crow years.

Black families were incredibly strong and close knit. They were headed by a mother or a grandmother but the fathers were always present. Black neighborhoods were generally safer than white neighborhoods, especially in poor areas. There was a reason why the best nightclubs in the 20s were in Harlem and not downtown. They remained so in the 50s. Black people had a pride, a nobility and an integrity that they don't have today. Their children were important to them. It's like even as late as the 50s, the lessons of slavery had not been forgotten. Men stayed with the mothers of their children because there was a time they couldn't. They loved and cared for their kids because there was a time they couldn't. They built businesses, held down jobs, bought houses and clawed their way into a middle class they made, because it was once denied to them. They respected their women because their women had no respect. They fought against every possible sterotype of the slave becoming a stronger and better people in the process.

Then jim crow ended and there was nothing to fight against. If ONLY black people had kept going in the same direction without jim crow that they were forced into with jim crow. Now they have handed their lives over to a government master, they kill their children debase their women, destroy their neighborhoods and murder one another in numbers that make jim crow blush.

And it's progress.

 

[Asclepias]

I remember the jim crow years.

Black families were incredibly strong and close knit. They were headed by a mother or a grandmother but the fathers were always present. Black neighborhoods were generally safer than white neighborhoods, especially in poor areas. There was a reason why the best nightclubs in the 20s were in Harlem and not downtown. They remained so in the 50s. Black people had a pride, a nobility and an integrity that they don't have today. Their children were important to them. It's like even as late as the 50s, the lessons of slavery had not been forgotten. Men stayed with the mothers of their children because there was a time they couldn't. They loved and cared for their kids because there was a time they couldn't. They built businesses, held down jobs, bought houses and clawed their way into a middle class they made, because it was once denied to them. They respected their women because their women had no respect. They fought against every possible sterotype of the slave becoming a stronger and better people in the process.

Then jim crow ended and there was nothing to fight against. If ONLY black people had kept going in the same direction without jim crow that they were forced into with jim crow. Now they have handed their lives over to a government master, they kill their children debase their women, destroy their neighborhoods and murder one another in numbers that make jim crow blush.

And it's progress.

Yeah I bet those were the good ole days. Somehow my family got a different interpretation of how great it was to be racially oppressed.

 

[gallantwarrior]

******* have to have something to when their not raping, pillaging, murdering, and flash mobbing convenience stores.

Nobody started a riot, but many people have suppressed their anger over the Zimmerman verdict. It is not a surprise that subconsciously teens have found a way to release such tensions.

I thought midnight basketball leagues were supposed to let them release "tensions".

 

[Katzndogz]

I keep remembering Obama's statement about white women locking their cars or clutching their purses when they see a young black man saying "that is so racist."

Now we have to watch out for them again.

Having to grow eyes in the back of your head means you're a racist.

I still can't seem to find videos of packs of Whites Randomly Assaulting Blacks on the Street...

Has anyone?...



peace...

Probably because they are too frightened to do that and not angry enough. Anger is being expressed by Black youth in a very stupid and dangerous way.

It's not anger. They aren't angry. They are having fun. They are desentized by drugs just having fun. Unfortunately there is a culture who says they have some sort of right to do this and that right can be justified by being angry.

 

[Asclepias]

I still can't seem to find videos of packs of Whites Randomly Assaulting Blacks on the Street...

Has anyone?...



peace...

Probably because they are too frightened to do that and not angry enough. Anger is being expressed by Black youth in a very stupid and dangerous way.

It's not anger. They aren't angry. They are having fun. They are desentized by drugs just having fun. Unfortunately there is a culture who says they have some sort of right to do this and that right can be justified by being angry.

Are you a Black youth?

 

[Dante]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pcRpyRnSnc]WHITE MOB ATTACKS BLACK MAN. GUESS WHO GETS CHARGED? - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Dante]

black white who cares?

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