KLM Flight Skids off Runway in Oslo

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Commercial airline crashes are rare. This is the fourth one in a week. What on Earth is going on here? Are we just the recipients of bad mathematical odds this week?

 

[kyzr]

Unless someone is tampering with the planes, in Oslo?

The Boeing jet in Korea had mechanical issues, and a stupid concrete wall at the end of the runway.

One was shot down by Russia, so that one is not tampering.

I'm blanking on the 4th?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Unless someone is tampering with the planes, in Oslo?

The Boeing jet in Korea had mechanical issues, and a stupid concrete wall at the end of the runway.

One was shot down by Russia, so that one is not tampering.

I'm blanking on the 4th?

Maybe you're right and it is only three.

Still, to even hear about one a year with casualties is a lot. We've had two within a few days and now this plane slides off the runway. All coincidence, but still makes you uneasy, especially when I fly as often as I do.

 

[Darkwind]

Looks to be a 777-300. Fairly new plane. If this wasn't a pilot error, then one of the auto systems failed, badly. They have a lot of redundancy.

 

[Missourian]

You should definitely fly even more.

I hear Kazakhstan is nice this time of year.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Unless someone is tampering with the planes, in Oslo?

The Boeing jet in Korea had mechanical issues, and a stupid concrete wall at the end of the runway.

One was shot down by Russia, so that one is not tampering.

I'm blanking on the 4th?

I was correct. It was four.

Moment plane spits fire in ANOTHER landing horror on same night as SK crash

THIS is the moment a passenger plane spat flames and sparks from its wing in a horror landing after its one of its wheels failed. It was one of two other landing horrors to happen on the same night…

www.the-sun.com

 

[kyzr]

I was correct. It was four.

I missed the one in Canada.
It was a 737, one of the most reliable planes there is.
Maybe there are terrorists fucking with planes?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Maybe…

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Commercial airline crashes are rare. This is the fourth one in a week. What on Earth is going on here? Are we just the recipients of bad mathematical odds this week?

Technically not a crash. It ran off the runway due to hydraulic failure. Probably caused by something in the engine as a large bang was heard by passengers.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

I just posted about a major KLM incident at Tenerife in the Canary Islands, in passing due to the Netflix series "La Palma" which takes place in the Canary Islands.

I also mentioned that an initial terrorist act set the chain of events in motion that ultimately ended up with the KLM aircraft colliding with a Pan Am aircraft on the runway at Tenerife which resulted in the worst aviation incident to date (1970s).

La Palma--Netflix

Wiki
Tenerife airport disaster - Wikipedia

 

[frigidweirdo]

Commercial airline crashes are rare. This is the fourth one in a week. What on Earth is going on here? Are we just the recipients of bad mathematical odds this week?

I once flew from Girona airport the week after there had been two plane incidents. The airport was packed with people, and it was very stressful. Then you take off straight up over some mountains which has huge turbulence.

These things often come in twos and threes.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Maybe…

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It must be depressing to realize that no matter how much you try to mock Black people that there are still so many of us, women included, whose accomplishments far exceed anything you've ever contributed.

And no, littering the world with your spawn doesn't count as an accomplishment.

1. Historical Context Preceding Affirmative Action​

The Tuskegee Airmen, established in 1941, were subjected to intense discrimination and hostility long before Affirmative Action and DEI policies existed:

• The "Experiment": The U.S. military created the Tuskegee program as a supposed "experiment" to test whether Black Americans were capable of becoming combat pilots. The program was steeped in racist skepticism and assumptions of inferiority.
• Exceptional Performance: Despite systemic barriers, the Tuskegee Airmen proved their worth, becoming some of the most skilled pilots of the war. Their accomplishments were based on merit, perseverance, and excellence—not on any preferential treatment.

---

2. The Bomber Pilots' Requests​

• Performance, Not Tokenism: White bomber crews specifically requested the Tuskegee Airmen for protection because of their stellar combat record. This directly refutes any notion of "lowering standards" for Black professionals.
• Innovative Tactics: Their "weaving pattern" provided unparalleled protection, showcasing innovation and leadership under fire. These were pilots who went above and beyond, excelling in their duties without any external advantages.

---

3. Post-War Racism in Employment​

• Commercial Aviation Exclusion: Despite their proven competence, it took nearly 20 years and a lawsuit before the first African American pilot, David Harris, was hired by a major airline in 1965. This delay was not due to a lack of qualifications but overt racial discrimination in the aviation industry.
• Contrast with White Veterans: White veterans benefited from the GI Bill, gaining access to higher education, home ownership, and professional careers. Meanwhile, Black veterans often faced barriers to accessing these same benefits, perpetuating systemic inequities.

---

4. Military Discrimination During Service​

• Mistreatment and Segregation: The Tuskegee Airmen endured segregation within the military, even while fighting for their country. They faced hostility from both their peers and superiors, who doubted their abilities and sought to discredit them.
• Benjamin O. Davis' Silencing: As a cadet at West Point, Davis was "silenced" by his classmates, who refused to speak to him or acknowledge his existence. Despite this, he graduated and went on to lead the Tuskegee Airmen with distinction.

---

5. Post-War Treatment​

• Segregated Reception: While white service members were celebrated with parades and public honors upon returning home, Black service members, including the Tuskegee Airmen, were directed to segregated areas and denied recognition.
• Better Treatment of German POWs: The U.S. military's treatment of German prisoners of war—enemies in the conflict—was often better than their treatment of Black officers, highlighting the pervasive racism within American society.

---

6. The Legacy of the Tuskegee Airmen​

• Persistence Against Racism: The Airmen's achievements and their fight for equal treatment demonstrate how Black Americans have excelled despite systemic efforts to impede their success.
• Exposing Racist Hypocrisy: The Tuskegee Airmen embody a direct rebuttal to claims of "preferential treatment" or "lowered standards" for Black professionals:
  • They succeeded in an environment that was overtly hostile and where they were held to higher standards.
  • Their accomplishments were not acknowledged or rewarded fairly, even when they outperformed their white counterparts.

---

7. Connecting the Tuskegee Airmen to Modern DEI Efforts​

The story of the Tuskegee Airmen underscores the need for Affirmative Action and DEI initiatives today:

• Addressing Historical Inequities: DEI policies seek to create opportunities for those who have been historically excluded and disadvantaged—not to give unqualified people an unfair advantage.
• Challenging Systemic Racism: The same systemic barriers that the Tuskegee Airmen faced persist in various forms today. DEI is a way to challenge and dismantle those structures.

---

Conclusion​

The Tuskegee Airmen's story is a powerful rebuttal to the false narratives perpetuated by those who oppose DEI and Affirmative Action. Their example demonstrates:

• That Black Americans have historically faced systemic barriers, even when they were clearly the most capable and qualified individuals.
• That claims of reverse discrimination are baseless, given the overwhelming evidence of racism in American history and its ongoing effects.

Using their legacy as an example, you can effectively counter the idea that DEI or Affirmative Action unfairly benefits Black Americans at the expense of white Americans. It is a clear and compelling testament to the necessity of these programs in achieving equity and justice.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

It must be depressing to realize that no matter how much you try to mock Black people that there are still so many of us, women included, whose accomplishments far exceed anything you've ever contributed.

And no, littering the world with your spawn doesn't count as an accomplishment.

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1. Historical Context Preceding Affirmative Action​

The Tuskegee Airmen, established in 1941, were subjected to intense discrimination and hostility long before Affirmative Action and DEI policies existed:

• The "Experiment": The U.S. military created the Tuskegee program as a supposed "experiment" to test whether Black Americans were capable of becoming combat pilots. The program was steeped in racist skepticism and assumptions of inferiority.
• Exceptional Performance: Despite systemic barriers, the Tuskegee Airmen proved their worth, becoming some of the most skilled pilots of the war. Their accomplishments were based on merit, perseverance, and excellence—not on any preferential treatment.

---

2. The Bomber Pilots' Requests​

• Performance, Not Tokenism: White bomber crews specifically requested the Tuskegee Airmen for protection because of their stellar combat record. This directly refutes any notion of "lowering standards" for Black professionals.
• Innovative Tactics: Their "weaving pattern" provided unparalleled protection, showcasing innovation and leadership under fire. These were pilots who went above and beyond, excelling in their duties without any external advantages.

---

3. Post-War Racism in Employment​

• Commercial Aviation Exclusion: Despite their proven competence, it took nearly 20 years and a lawsuit before the first African American pilot, David Harris, was hired by a major airline in 1965. This delay was not due to a lack of qualifications but overt racial discrimination in the aviation industry.
• Contrast with White Veterans: White veterans benefited from the GI Bill, gaining access to higher education, home ownership, and professional careers. Meanwhile, Black veterans often faced barriers to accessing these same benefits, perpetuating systemic inequities.

---

4. Military Discrimination During Service​

• Mistreatment and Segregation: The Tuskegee Airmen endured segregation within the military, even while fighting for their country. They faced hostility from both their peers and superiors, who doubted their abilities and sought to discredit them.
• Benjamin O. Davis' Silencing: As a cadet at West Point, Davis was "silenced" by his classmates, who refused to speak to him or acknowledge his existence. Despite this, he graduated and went on to lead the Tuskegee Airmen with distinction.

---

5. Post-War Treatment​

• Segregated Reception: While white service members were celebrated with parades and public honors upon returning home, Black service members, including the Tuskegee Airmen, were directed to segregated areas and denied recognition.
• Better Treatment of German POWs: The U.S. military's treatment of German prisoners of war—enemies in the conflict—was often better than their treatment of Black officers, highlighting the pervasive racism within American society.

---

6. The Legacy of the Tuskegee Airmen​

• Persistence Against Racism: The Airmen's achievements and their fight for equal treatment demonstrate how Black Americans have excelled despite systemic efforts to impede their success.
• Exposing Racist Hypocrisy: The Tuskegee Airmen embody a direct rebuttal to claims of "preferential treatment" or "lowered standards" for Black professionals:
  • They succeeded in an environment that was overtly hostile and where they were held to higher standards.
  • Their accomplishments were not acknowledged or rewarded fairly, even when they outperformed their white counterparts.

---

7. Connecting the Tuskegee Airmen to Modern DEI Efforts​

The story of the Tuskegee Airmen underscores the need for Affirmative Action and DEI initiatives today:

• Addressing Historical Inequities: DEI policies seek to create opportunities for those who have been historically excluded and disadvantaged—not to give unqualified people an unfair advantage.
• Challenging Systemic Racism: The same systemic barriers that the Tuskegee Airmen faced persist in various forms today. DEI is a way to challenge and dismantle those structures.

---

Conclusion​

The Tuskegee Airmen's story is a powerful rebuttal to the false narratives perpetuated by those who oppose DEI and Affirmative Action. Their example demonstrates:

• That Black Americans have historically faced systemic barriers, even when they were clearly the most capable and qualified individuals.
• That claims of reverse discrimination are baseless, given the overwhelming evidence of racism in American history and its ongoing effects.

Using their legacy as an example, you can effectively counter the idea that DEI or Affirmative Action unfairly benefits Black Americans at the expense of white Americans. It is a clear and compelling testament to the necessity of these programs in achieving equity and justice.

And it’s so sad that the more recent of those accomplished examples you presented have to be tainted with doubt due to quotas and affirmative action, etc.
That's pure logic. That’s what my post addressed. Keep your racism to yourself.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

It must be depressing to realize that no matter how much you try to mock Black people that there are still so many of us, women included, whose accomplishments far exceed anything you've ever contributed.

And no, littering the world with your spawn doesn't count as an accomplishment.

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View attachment 1059408
View attachment 1059409View attachment 1059413
View attachment 1059410

1. Historical Context Preceding Affirmative Action​

The Tuskegee Airmen, established in 1941, were subjected to intense discrimination and hostility long before Affirmative Action and DEI policies existed:

• The "Experiment": The U.S. military created the Tuskegee program as a supposed "experiment" to test whether Black Americans were capable of becoming combat pilots. The program was steeped in racist skepticism and assumptions of inferiority.
• Exceptional Performance: Despite systemic barriers, the Tuskegee Airmen proved their worth, becoming some of the most skilled pilots of the war. Their accomplishments were based on merit, perseverance, and excellence—not on any preferential treatment.

---

2. The Bomber Pilots' Requests​

• Performance, Not Tokenism: White bomber crews specifically requested the Tuskegee Airmen for protection because of their stellar combat record. This directly refutes any notion of "lowering standards" for Black professionals.
• Innovative Tactics: Their "weaving pattern" provided unparalleled protection, showcasing innovation and leadership under fire. These were pilots who went above and beyond, excelling in their duties without any external advantages.

---

3. Post-War Racism in Employment​

• Commercial Aviation Exclusion: Despite their proven competence, it took nearly 20 years and a lawsuit before the first African American pilot, David Harris, was hired by a major airline in 1965. This delay was not due to a lack of qualifications but overt racial discrimination in the aviation industry.
• Contrast with White Veterans: White veterans benefited from the GI Bill, gaining access to higher education, home ownership, and professional careers. Meanwhile, Black veterans often faced barriers to accessing these same benefits, perpetuating systemic inequities.

---

4. Military Discrimination During Service​

• Mistreatment and Segregation: The Tuskegee Airmen endured segregation within the military, even while fighting for their country. They faced hostility from both their peers and superiors, who doubted their abilities and sought to discredit them.
• Benjamin O. Davis' Silencing: As a cadet at West Point, Davis was "silenced" by his classmates, who refused to speak to him or acknowledge his existence. Despite this, he graduated and went on to lead the Tuskegee Airmen with distinction.

---

5. Post-War Treatment​

• Segregated Reception: While white service members were celebrated with parades and public honors upon returning home, Black service members, including the Tuskegee Airmen, were directed to segregated areas and denied recognition.
• Better Treatment of German POWs: The U.S. military's treatment of German prisoners of war—enemies in the conflict—was often better than their treatment of Black officers, highlighting the pervasive racism within American society.

---

6. The Legacy of the Tuskegee Airmen​

• Persistence Against Racism: The Airmen's achievements and their fight for equal treatment demonstrate how Black Americans have excelled despite systemic efforts to impede their success.
• Exposing Racist Hypocrisy: The Tuskegee Airmen embody a direct rebuttal to claims of "preferential treatment" or "lowered standards" for Black professionals:
  • They succeeded in an environment that was overtly hostile and where they were held to higher standards.
  • Their accomplishments were not acknowledged or rewarded fairly, even when they outperformed their white counterparts.

---

7. Connecting the Tuskegee Airmen to Modern DEI Efforts​

The story of the Tuskegee Airmen underscores the need for Affirmative Action and DEI initiatives today:

• Addressing Historical Inequities: DEI policies seek to create opportunities for those who have been historically excluded and disadvantaged—not to give unqualified people an unfair advantage.
• Challenging Systemic Racism: The same systemic barriers that the Tuskegee Airmen faced persist in various forms today. DEI is a way to challenge and dismantle those structures.

---

Conclusion​

The Tuskegee Airmen's story is a powerful rebuttal to the false narratives perpetuated by those who oppose DEI and Affirmative Action. Their example demonstrates:

• That Black Americans have historically faced systemic barriers, even when they were clearly the most capable and qualified individuals.
• That claims of reverse discrimination are baseless, given the overwhelming evidence of racism in American history and its ongoing effects.

Using their legacy as an example, you can effectively counter the idea that DEI or Affirmative Action unfairly benefits Black Americans at the expense of white Americans. It is a clear and compelling testament to the necessity of these programs in achieving equity and justice.

This guy…

…agrees with me.