KKK funded by leftwing SPLC

[Winston]

It’s a news agency…I thought…why? Are they funding the klan?

You thought wrong.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.569823/gov.uscourts.nysd.569823.29.0.pdf

 

[struth]

You thought wrong.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.569823/gov.uscourts.nysd.569823.29.0.pdf

Not sure what your link is to l, or why it’s relevant to the topic of the SPLC funding hate groups

 

[Marener]

The SPLC is not a government agency. That make a difference.

Explain the difference.

 

[Winston]

Not sure what your link is to l, or why it’s relevant to the topic of the SPLC funding hate groups

As an initial matter, there is considerable doubt whether the practices of Project Veritas orits employees generally could be entitled to the protection of a qualified journalistic privilege. Project Veritas is not engaged in journalism within any traditional or accepted definition of that word. Its “reporting” consists almost entirely of publicizing non-consensual, surreptitious, recordings made though unlawful, unethical, and or/dishonest means. And publicly disclosed Project Veritas communications suggest that Project Veritas may not be able to establish that it exercises sufficient independence over whether and when to publish the content it creates in order to be eligible for the protection of the privilege.

 

[struth]

Explain the difference.

The govt prosecutes crimes, not the SPLC, which I suppose to be a non profit legal advocacy group, not an organization having to pay witnesses (which is essentially what you are claiming) in fact paying witnesses is an even bigger issue

 

[struth]

As an initial matter, there is considerable doubt whether the practices of Project Veritas orits employees generally could be entitled to the protection of a qualified journalistic privilege. Project Veritas is not engaged in journalism within any traditional or accepted definition of that word. Its “reporting” consists almost entirely of publicizing non-consensual, surreptitious, recordings made though unlawful, unethical, and or/dishonest means. And publicly disclosed Project Veritas communications suggest that Project Veritas may not be able to establish that it exercises sufficient independence over whether and when to publish the content it creates in order to be eligible for the protection of the privilege.

Ok, I really have no clue nor care l, the group has nothing to do with the topic

 

[theHawk]

Every claim being made by the right in this forum is not true. So, while we see members of this forum rushing to use far-right extremist white supremacist media sources to make claims about the SPLC paying the KKK and how they made up racism, but the facts are more like this:

FBI: SPLC paid informants without donors knowing. Feds pay them too​

The nation’s top law enforcement officials, FBI Director Kash Patel and acting Attorney General Todd Blanche announced a slew of criminal charges against the Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit research and advocacy organization that has worked for decades to investigate, report on and combat White supremacist, neo-Nazi and other hate groups.

The charges allege the SPLC’s use of paid informants defrauded donors to the organization because the donors were not aware their money would be used for that purpose. According to prosecutors, informants were paid large sums of money to infiltrate some of the nation’s most infamous and dangerous extremist groups. This tactic, Blanche said at a news conference, “was not dismantling these groups, it was instead manufacturing the extremism it purports to oppose by paying sources to stoke racial hatred.”

The federal indictment against the SPLC, unveiled April 21, states: “Unbeknownst to donors, some of their donated money was being used to fund the leaders and organizers of racist groups, including the Ku Klux Klan, the Aryan Nation, and the National Alliance.”

Paying informants to infiltrate hate groups has, however, been used by federal law enforcement agencies “for decades, if not longer,” said Javed Ali, associate professor of practice at the Gerald R. Ford School of Public Policy at the University of Michigan and a former senior counterterrorism official at the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security.

The FBI has long paid, and probably is still paying, confidential sources across the country to gather intelligence on extremist groups, including organizations like those named in Tuesday’s indictment, Ali said.

“There are, I would have to imagine, every day those kinds of operations,” Ali said.

The federal indictment contends that the SPLC "explicitly sought donations under the auspices that donor money would be used to help ‘dismantle’ violent extremist groups," and "donors were not told that some of the donated funds were to be used by the SPLC to pay high-level leaders of violent extremist groups, and others, nor were donors ever told that some of the donated funds were used for the benefit of the violent extremist groups or that some of the donated funds would be used in the commission of state and federal crimes."

The indictment describes how the SPLC for years publicized its successes − including by disseminating information and documents provided by paid confidential sources − in articles and newsletters.

Confidential sources who have been paid by the FBI have included “high-level leaders.”

One such source, David Gletty, spent years infiltrating anti-government militia groups and neo-Nazi and biker gangs for the FBI. He told USA TODAY he received “a lot of money” from the agency for his work, which he described as dangerous and exhilarating. But he also got into trouble while working for the agency, Gletty acknowledged.

“I was getting paid $1,000 a week at the beginning, then I went up to $2,000 a week after I did certain crazy stuff, but there were also bonuses,” Gletty said. “ But I got arrested one time working undercover and it cost me."

Back in the 1990s and 2000s, paid operatives like Gletty had the option to work for law enforcement agencies or to hire themselves to organizations like the SPLC, he said. Operatives working for a private entity could “fish” for information by getting inside groups before any probable cause existed to investigate them, a handy loophole for law enforcement agencies that would, invariably, eventually be handed the information gathered by the private group.

FBI: SPLC paid informants without donors knowing. Feds pay them too

The Southern Poverty Law Center was indicted for allegedly paying sources in hate groups without donors knowing. The FBI also pays informants

www.usatoday.com

THE FBI IS DOING THE SAME THING RIGHT NOW!

What we are seeing here is an administration that is basically a white supremacist organization. They are doing everything they can to help white supremacists by eliminating anything threatening opposition to them or their ability to implement a white supremacist agenda. The next group they will try to attack is the ACLU.

Total fluff piece that does not disprove the allegations against the SPLC.


Just because the FBI uses “informants” doesn’t mean an organization like the SPLC can do the same thing legally. There is also no proof they were paying these people as “informants”. They were paying them to keep the organizations alive.

 

[hadit]

Explain the difference.

The government does not collect donations from willing donors who have expectations for the use of the donations.

 

[Winston]

The government does not collect donations from willing donors who have expectations for the use of the donations.

And there you got it. That is what the case will hinge upon. Were donors deceived by the SLPC. Were those payments made to investigate those hate groups, or were they to perpetuate them. Sorry, but that is going to be a hard argument to make. It literally makes no sense.

I mean take the KKK. I mean I am not proud of it, but if anyone knows that organization it is me, just from living where I live. From having them threaten my father, the largest employer in Western North Carolina, in the 1970's, for hiring black people. No worries, same thing from the NAACP, for not hiring enough. They attempted to recruit me once I graduated and started working. And when my daughters were dominating the high-school track circuit, they were recruiting them.

I mean it is the 1990's. Kind of late at night and I am rolling through the back country coming home from my new job in Lincoln county, damn what a racist pit from hell. Even today, check out some of the videos of their racist high school students. And WTF, I see a bunch of white-hooded idiots around a burning cross in the middle of a cow pasture. I honestly do a double take, I know the weed I was smoking wasn't that good. Hell, it is 1990.

The thing is, you can look at the indictment, the list of groups, those groups are still real. Those groups do not need the money from paid informants to operate. And I will admit, sometimes the paid informants, even within law enforcement, cross the line between documenting and instigating, that could be the case here, but it seems really unlikely.

 

[Zincwarrior]

And there you got it. That is what the case will hinge upon. Were donors deceived by the SLPC. Were those payments made to investigate those hate groups, or were they to perpetuate them. Sorry, but that is going to be a hard argument to make. It literally makes no sense.

I mean take the KKK. I mean I am not proud of it, but if anyone knows that organization it is me, just from living where I live. From having them threaten my father, the largest employer in Western North Carolina, in the 1970's, for hiring black people. No worries, same thing from the NAACP, for not hiring enough. They attempted to recruit me once I graduated and started working. And when my daughters were dominating the high-school track circuit, they were recruiting them.

I mean it is the 1990's. Kind of late at night and I am rolling through the back country coming home from my new job in Lincoln county, damn what a racist pit from hell. Even today, check out some of the videos of their racist high school students. And WTF, I see a bunch of white-hooded idiots around a burning cross in the middle of a cow pasture. I honestly do a double take, I know the weed I was smoking wasn't that good. Hell, it is 1990.

The thing is, you can look at the indictment, the list of groups, those groups are still real. Those groups do not need the money from paid informants to operate. And I will admit, sometimes the paid informants, even within law enforcement, cross the line between documenting and instigating, that could be the case here, but it seems really unlikely.

Exactly.

 

[0311]

Classic white denial.

Racist Whites need an excuse blame SPLC. Never that that the SPLC has exposed Nazis, the KKK and other White Nationalist Groups. Never the rampant racism within the ReNaziKLan Party. It is the SPLC who is the enemy. **** THAT, we know who the enemy and it sure as is NOT the SPLC!!

 

[Nostra]

Every claim being made by the right in this forum is not true. So, while we see members of this forum rushing to use far-right extremist white supremacist media sources to make claims about the SPLC paying the KKK and how they made up racism, but the facts are more like this:

FBI: SPLC paid informants without donors knowing. Feds pay them too​

The nation’s top law enforcement officials, FBI Director Kash Patel and acting Attorney General Todd Blanche announced a slew of criminal charges against the Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit research and advocacy organization that has worked for decades to investigate, report on and combat White supremacist, neo-Nazi and other hate groups.

The charges allege the SPLC’s use of paid informants defrauded donors to the organization because the donors were not aware their money would be used for that purpose. According to prosecutors, informants were paid large sums of money to infiltrate some of the nation’s most infamous and dangerous extremist groups. This tactic, Blanche said at a news conference, “was not dismantling these groups, it was instead manufacturing the extremism it purports to oppose by paying sources to stoke racial hatred.”

The federal indictment against the SPLC, unveiled April 21, states: “Unbeknownst to donors, some of their donated money was being used to fund the leaders and organizers of racist groups, including the Ku Klux Klan, the Aryan Nation, and the National Alliance.”

Paying informants to infiltrate hate groups has, however, been used by federal law enforcement agencies “for decades, if not longer,” said Javed Ali, associate professor of practice at the Gerald R. Ford School of Public Policy at the University of Michigan and a former senior counterterrorism official at the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security.

The FBI has long paid, and probably is still paying, confidential sources across the country to gather intelligence on extremist groups, including organizations like those named in Tuesday’s indictment, Ali said.

“There are, I would have to imagine, every day those kinds of operations,” Ali said.

The federal indictment contends that the SPLC "explicitly sought donations under the auspices that donor money would be used to help ‘dismantle’ violent extremist groups," and "donors were not told that some of the donated funds were to be used by the SPLC to pay high-level leaders of violent extremist groups, and others, nor were donors ever told that some of the donated funds were used for the benefit of the violent extremist groups or that some of the donated funds would be used in the commission of state and federal crimes."

The indictment describes how the SPLC for years publicized its successes − including by disseminating information and documents provided by paid confidential sources − in articles and newsletters.

Confidential sources who have been paid by the FBI have included “high-level leaders.”

One such source, David Gletty, spent years infiltrating anti-government militia groups and neo-Nazi and biker gangs for the FBI. He told USA TODAY he received “a lot of money” from the agency for his work, which he described as dangerous and exhilarating. But he also got into trouble while working for the agency, Gletty acknowledged.

“I was getting paid $1,000 a week at the beginning, then I went up to $2,000 a week after I did certain crazy stuff, but there were also bonuses,” Gletty said. “ But I got arrested one time working undercover and it cost me."

Back in the 1990s and 2000s, paid operatives like Gletty had the option to work for law enforcement agencies or to hire themselves to organizations like the SPLC, he said. Operatives working for a private entity could “fish” for information by getting inside groups before any probable cause existed to investigate them, a handy loophole for law enforcement agencies that would, invariably, eventually be handed the information gathered by the private group.

FBI: SPLC paid informants without donors knowing. Feds pay them too

The Southern Poverty Law Center was indicted for allegedly paying sources in hate groups without donors knowing. The FBI also pays informants

www.usatoday.com

THE FBI IS DOING THE SAME THING RIGHT NOW!

What we are seeing here is an administration that is basically a white supremacist organization. They are doing everything they can to help white supremacists by eliminating anything threatening opposition to them or their ability to implement a white supremacist agenda. The next group they will try to attack is the ACLU.

Your support of the KKK and white supremacists is noted.






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[Nostra]

Classic white denial.

Denial of what? The SPLC’s funding of white supremacists?

 

[struth]

Racist Whites need an excuse blame SPLC. Never that that the SPLC has exposed Nazis, the KKK and other White Nationalist Groups. Never the rampant racism within the ReNaziKLan Party. It is the SPLC who is the enemy. **** THAT, we know who the enemy and it sure as is NOT the SPLC!!

Racist white love the SPLC, they were getting paid by them

Yes I get you love getting paid

 

[Zincwarrior]

Racist Whites need an excuse blame SPLC. Never that that the SPLC has exposed Nazis, the KKK and other White Nationalist Groups. Never the rampant racism within the ReNaziKLan Party. It is the SPLC who is the enemy. **** THAT, we know who the enemy and it sure as is NOT the SPLC!!

You understand the hatred for them on here.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Surprise surprise, turns out the KKK is funded by radical leftwing lunatics that need hoax after hoax so they can stir up anti-white hatred.

DOJ Charges Far-Left SPLC With Fraud, Money Laundering

The DOJ charged the far-left Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) with fraud and making false statements to a bank, among other charges.

www.breitbart.com

You left out this part Big Bird

The SPLC has denied the fraud allegations, maintaining that the payments were for a legitimate confidential informant program designed to monitor threats of violence.

• Intelligence Gathering: CEO Bryan Fair stated that the program provided critical intelligence that was shared with law enforcement and that the work "saved lives".
• Defense: The organization has described the indictment as a politically motivated attack intended to "weaponize" the justice system against civil rights groups.

Sources

 

[IM2]

The government does not collect donations from willing donors who have expectations for the use of the donations.

Looking for an excuse to deny the current existence of white supremacy and racism.

 

[Marener]

The government does not collect donations from willing donors who have expectations for the use of the donations.

Donors to the SPLC expected their donations would go to combating extremism and hate.

That’s exactly what they did here.

 

[excalibur]

 

[struth]

Donors to the SPLC expected their donations would go to combating extremism and hate.

That’s exactly what they did here.

And yet it was going to fund it

How gross