Kirks killer got away

[ThisIsMe]

The more I see information come out about this shooting, the more im thinking that Robinson isnt the guy. Several analysis videos ive watched are making me rethink.

First, the wound on his neck is much too large. It appears to be about the size of a half dollar, the entry wound for a .30-06 would only be about just a little larger than 1/4 of an inch. Meaning the neck wound we see would have to be the exit wound, which is plausible because, in about a 6 inch to 8 inch diameter (the thickness of the neck) wouldn't be enough tissue to deform the bullet much. If it did deform much at all, the exit wound would have been MUCH larger and more violent.

However, it couldn't have been a .30-06 because if it were, it would have passed through his neck, out his back, through the tent behind him and probably through anyone who was standing behind that. As it is, we dont see any exit wounds from the back, if there were, there would have been a spray of blood out the back, which we didnt see.

Im no ballistics expert, im just going off of what I've seen in the numerous analysis videos ive seen, but something caught my attention today. I was watching one video that said that it might be hard for them to convict Robinson of murder because the whole thing doesnt add up. It appears there was a wider conspiracy, with the old man at first, and then robinson who may have been cover for the real shooter to get away. Also several people in a discord chat room and even more in a steam chat room

Its obvious that robinson was involved, but there may be some doubt about him being the shooter.

Thoughts?

 

[buttercup]

I agree that he was a patsy.

This is a must-watch...

 

[Chuz Life]

The more I see information come out about this shooting, the more im thinking that Robinson isnt the guy. Several analysis videos ive watched are making me rethink.

First, the wound on his neck is much too large. It appears to be about the size of a half dollar, the entry wound for a .30-06 would only be about just a little larger than 1/4 of an inch. Meaning the neck wound we see would have to be the exit wound, which is plausible because, in about a 6 inch to 8 inch diameter (the thickness of the neck) wouldn't be enough tissue to deform the bullet much. If it did deform much at all, the exit wound would have been MUCH larger and more violent.

However, it couldn't have been a .30-06 because if it were, it would have passed through his neck, out his back, through the tent behind him and probably through anyone who was standing behind that. As it is, we dont see any exit wounds from the back, if there were, there would have been a spray of blood out the back, which we didnt see.

Im no ballistics expert, im just going off of what I've seen in the numerous analysis videos ive seen, but something caught my attention today. I was watching one video that said that it might be hard for them to convict Robinson of murder because the whole thing doesnt add up. It appears there was a wider conspiracy, with the old man at first, and then robinson who may have been cover for the real shooter to get away.

Its obvious that robinson was involved, but there may be some doubt about him being the shooter.

Thoughts?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Yeah, Gary over at Paramount Tactical has been talking about that. At first they thought it might be an ear piece cord, but kirk wasnt wearing an earpiece. They are now saying it might be his necklace that was blown backwards by shock wave force.

Its just that the front entry angle is hard to buy since there was no visible exit wound and the entry wound was just too big. The only way that entry wound could have been that big is if the bullet was deflected and started tumbling or keyholed, but there wasnt anything to deflect off of

 

[toobfreak]

First, the wound on his neck is much too large. It appears to be about the size of a half dollar, the entry wound for a .30-06 would only be about just a little larger than 1/4 of an inch.

The wound in his neck was about that size.

However, it couldn't have been a .30-06 because if it were, it would have passed through his neck, out his back, through the tent behind him and probably through anyone who was standing behind that.

I'm not so sure. What if the round was not fully filled or filled with a less volatile compound so to impart less velocity? I've yet to see anyone conduct tests on a dummy hitting him in the cervical spine as he was after passing through the neck, all of which is highly movable, thus able to defer impact energy.

Put another way, why would they say he was shot with a 30-06 if he wasn't, and could be easily shown not to have? They could have easily lied or swapped out the rifle for another.

 

[Rambunctious]

Don't fall for this stuff guys... I watched so called ex military snipers analyzing this as a shot from behind or from the crowd and its just ridiculous... they should be ashamed...

 

[TemplarKormac]

Thread moved to Conspiracy Theories

 

[ThisIsMe]

Here's a new angle.



At the 1:50 mark he shows a brief clip. Listen to the gun sound. It sounds different, also, you hear the shot and then a thud after it. Now the secondary thud could be an echo effect, but it really sounds like either the bullet did exit (but we see no evidence of this), or, it might indicate a second shot? (Conspiracy).

 

[Chuz Life]

Yeah, Gary over at Paramount Tactical has been talking about that. At first they thought it might be an ear piece cord, but kirk wasnt wearing an earpiece. They are now saying it might be his necklace that was blown backwards by shock wave force.

Its just that the front entry angle is hard to buy since there was no visible exit wound and the entry wound was just too big. The only way that entry wound could have been that big is if the bullet was deflected and started tumbling or keyholed, but there wasnt anything to deflect off of

I think the necklace, rope like. Took a direct hit.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Don't fall for this stuff guys... I watched so called ex military snipers analyzing this as a shot from behind or from the crowd and its just ridiculous... they should be ashamed...

You very well may be right, but, we can plainly see that the current prevailing theory doesn't make sense.

Also, those ex snipers are not "so called", you can look them up online. They have had multiple other former snipers come on their feed to talk about it

 

[Doc7505]

The more I see information come out about this shooting, the more im thinking that Robinson isnt the guy. Several analysis videos ive watched are making me rethink.

First, the wound on his neck is much too large. It appears to be about the size of a half dollar, the entry wound for a .30-06 would only be about just a little larger than 1/4 of an inch. Meaning the neck wound we see would have to be the exit wound, which is plausible because, in about a 6 inch to 8 inch diameter (the thickness of the neck) wouldn't be enough tissue to deform the bullet much. If it did deform much at all, the exit wound would have been MUCH larger and more violent.

However, it couldn't have been a .30-06 because if it were, it would have passed through his neck, out his back, through the tent behind him and probably through anyone who was standing behind that. As it is, we dont see any exit wounds from the back, if there were, there would have been a spray of blood out the back, which we didnt see.

Im no ballistics expert, im just going off of what I've seen in the numerous analysis videos ive seen, but something caught my attention today. I was watching one video that said that it might be hard for them to convict Robinson of murder because the whole thing doesnt add up. It appears there was a wider conspiracy, with the old man at first, and then robinson who may have been cover for the real shooter to get away. Also several people in a discord chat room and even more in a steam chat room

Its obvious that robinson was involved, but there may be some doubt about him being the shooter.

Thoughts?

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You're correct in that your not a firearms expert..
The ammunition used is the shooting was more than likely hunting ammo that when striking bone causing almost immediate expansion. The bullet most likely hit Kirk's clavicle causing the damage to his upper chest, neck and face.

 

[Rambunctious]

Bullets are not magic they are unpredictable.... a real sniper would know this...

 

[Rambunctious]

You very well may be right, but, we can plainly see that the current prevailing theory doesn't make sense.

Also, those ex snipers are not "so called", you can look them up online. They have had multiple other former snipers come on their feed to talk about it

But have they shot humans or just targets on a range?....
Not one of them has examined the body.... snipers rarely do.... if ever... they are not doctors...

 

[Chuz Life]

Bullets are not magic they are unpredictable.... a real sniper would know this...

Agreed.

Who knows why people try so hard to complicate things like this? Some of the "experts" theories actually defy the physics and the testimony of the witnesses as well.

 

[Darkwind]

Don't fall for this stuff guys... I watched so called ex military snipers analyzing this as a shot from behind or from the crowd and its just ridiculous... they should be ashamed...

I am amazed sometimes at how these conspiracies bloom.

They have the guy who killed him. They need only know to make sure they have the right guy, then take him out in the Utah desert, stake him to the ground, cover him in honey, and then force him to watch Roseanne Barr clips until the honey hardens into an impenetrable glaze and his eyes melt.

Then show his boyfriend images of his tiny little balls and ask him why he thought this was the shit.

Okay, I may be a bit bitter, but it's only Wednesday for Chrissake.

 

[ozro]

Conspiracy nutters always know more than anyone that was there.
No point in trusting what eye witnesses, local police, local hospital staff or especially what the perpetrator himself says.
Some dumbass on the Internet always knows more.

 

[Rambunctious]

Agreed.

Who knows why people try so hard to complicate things like this? Some of the "experts" theories actually defy the physics and the testimony of the witnesses as well.

Click bait for their channels...

 

[Chuz Life]

Click bait for their channels...

Pretty lame way to get clicks.

 

[EMH]

The narrative that this one emaciated trans

marched into campus with a long gun
climbed a roof
set up the gun and scope
hit Charlie in the neck
unscrewed the gun, packed in a knapsack
jumped off the roof like Anakin Skywalker
ran off
nobody saw nothing
no cops did anything
no state police did anything
no local FBI did anything
just the daddy turned the kid in...


NO, NOT BUYING THAT....

EMH has warned all along about John Ratcliffe, and the risk of these type of assassinations increasing grows every day Trump doesn't fire his treasonous ass...

 

[hjmick]

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