Kicking Trump off Twitter is 'problematic' and infringes on free speech, Germany and France say

[francoHFW]

Big monopolized tech crushing any competition like Parler..completely anti American....

Actual violent sedition is frowned upon.

 

[dblack]

Big monopolized tech crushing any competition like Parler..completely anti American....

Nah. It's just another variation on shunning, a valuable expression of social values.

 

[Claudette]

Pretty sad day when Europe is lecturing the United States about the infringement of free speech.

Yup and an even sadder day when big tech only wants to have liberal speech on their sites. They have been ousting conservative speak for quite some time. I'm glad Trump is setting up his own media site and a new political party. Should be very interesting.

 

[billyerock123]

The alt-left bastards have pushed your allies into Chinas arms and they have single handedly allowed America to lose their influence. These moron CEOs have now cut off their noses to spite their faces. Stupid, son of b____s. Now Europe has the perfect excuse they need to regulate, punish and control these networks. Good job political party boot lickers. You did well. Dumb asses.

Since about year 3 of Trumps admin, I never believed that allies hated him as much as the media tried to present. Canada and England might have felt they lost out, that's because they were all in for Hillary. The rest, probably understood the message Trump and U.S intel were giving them. Notice silence from Canada and England on the issue of censorship. That's because THEY want to do the same here in Canada, as an example.

Now, what do they think? How will they react? I give Germany and France some credit. The French have a history of liberty, the Germans have been slower adopters, but it's good to see them all speak out.

Kicking Trump off Twitter is 'problematic' and infringes on free speech, Germany and France say
Angela Merkel said the free speech should be governed by lawmakers, not private technology companies

Kicking Trump off Twitter is 'problematic' and infringes on free speech, Germany and France say

Angela Merkel said the free speech should be governed by lawmakers, not private technology companies

nationalpost.com

Germany and France attacked Twitter Inc. and Facebook Inc. after U.S. President Donald Trump was shut off from the social media platforms, in an extension of Europe’s battle with big tech.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel objected to the decisions, saying on Monday that lawmakers should set the rules governing free speech and not private technology companies.

“The chancellor sees the complete closing down of the account of an elected president as problematic,” Steffen Seibert, her chief spokesman, said at a regular news conference in Berlin. Rights like the freedom of speech “can be interfered with, but by law and within the framework defined by the legislature — not according to a corporate decision.”

The German leader’s stance is echoed by the French government. Junior Minister for European Union Affairs Clement Beaune said he was “shocked” to see a private company make such an important decision. “This should be decided by citizens, not by a CEO,” he told Bloomberg TV on Monday. “There needs to be public regulation of big online platforms.” Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire earlier said that the state should be responsible for regulations, rather than “the digital oligarchy,” and called big tech “one of the threats” to democracy.

Europe is increasingly pushing back against the growing influence of big technology companies. The EU is currently in the process of setting up regulation that could give the bloc power to split up platforms if they don’t comply with rules.

Twitter permanently banned Trump last week after it decided the outgoing president’s tweets breached its rules against glorifying violence. It cited his posts on the riots in the U.S. capital.

Things change when you have a seditious riot running through the capital. Trump is just another ignoramus who watched too much Fox Russ slimball etc. A total disgrace we need the fairness convention again. We need to add debate to Fox prime Time and Rush Limbaugh and all our crazies. Pure missinformation

look men, women, the 1st amendment only ably to the government .... go read the damn constitution... it will tell you that they have no control over free speech when it concerns these corporation ... yes there are laws that they have to follow but free speech isn't one of the ... so they can shut down anybody they want fro any reason like they don't like you so out you go...

 

[billyerock123]

Big monopolized tech crushing any competition like Parler..completely anti American....

Nah. It's just another variation on shunning, a valuable expression of social values.

apple or twitter can be anti American ... they have no loyalty to a country they only have to follow the laws and free speech isn't something that they have to follow like it or not thats the law... that you and your republicans voted for ... so do you want cheese with that wine of yours...

 

[billyerock123]

Maybe Putin can form a kind of NATO to protect them from the Left wing US now.

Frankly a Vlad Putin is exactly the kind of man we need right now, here in America, to reign in blood.

you know I'm a liberal been ... one all as long as I can remember or I could understand what government is about ... all my life I've been called a commie because I felt that people should have some government protection ... and some health care where we don't lose everything we own I was call a commie all my life ... thats all I ever heard from you right wing but jobs is I'm a commie and now you are saying the republicans should become commies ... priceless ...personally I don't think they will let you into the club...

 

[night_son]

Maybe Putin can form a kind of NATO to protect them from the Left wing US now.

Frankly a Vlad Putin is exactly the kind of man we need right now, here in America, to reign in blood.

you know I'm a liberal been ... one all as long as I can remember or I could understand what government is about ... all my life I've been called a commie because I felt that people should have some government protection ... and some health care where we don't lose everything we own I was call a commie all my life ... thats all I ever heard from you right wing but jobs is I'm a commie and now you are saying the republicans should become commies ... priceless ...personally I don't think they will let you into the club...

Envision the sound of the loudest, most annoying game show buzzer imaginable. It just went off. Vlad Putin is not a communist, for several self-serving reasons we won't entertain at this moment. What Putin is, is a pure nationalist; a man who loves his nation so deeply he would do anything to preserve it. Anything. Sure, he's an oligarchical dictator and former KGB killer, but the total "good guy" package always comes with a caveat or two.

Where you most misunderstand our current American crisis, apparently, is in the total effort by our elected officials, corporate giants and media to outright hand over our nation to foreign powers. See, we love America unconditionally. We want our America to be preserved and survive at all costs; to protect her sovereignty by any means necessary. Your "side", however, was and remains willing to sell America out to China and others all for the "prize" of bringing down one man: Donald J. Trump. Your "side" holds no allegiance to our Flag, our history, our Constitution, our values or our God. Your side are godless anti-Americans who believe the fulfillment of your own lives to be worth more than the preservation of our country.

You nauseate us.

 

[francoHFW]

The alt-left bastards have pushed your allies into Chinas arms and they have single handedly allowed America to lose their influence. These moron CEOs have now cut off their noses to spite their faces. Stupid, son of b____s. Now Europe has the perfect excuse they need to regulate, punish and control these networks. Good job political party boot lickers. You did well. Dumb asses.

Since about year 3 of Trumps admin, I never believed that allies hated him as much as the media tried to present. Canada and England might have felt they lost out, that's because they were all in for Hillary. The rest, probably understood the message Trump and U.S intel were giving them. Notice silence from Canada and England on the issue of censorship. That's because THEY want to do the same here in Canada, as an example.

Now, what do they think? How will they react? I give Germany and France some credit. The French have a history of liberty, the Germans have been slower adopters, but it's good to see them all speak out.

Kicking Trump off Twitter is 'problematic' and infringes on free speech, Germany and France say
Angela Merkel said the free speech should be governed by lawmakers, not private technology companies

Kicking Trump off Twitter is 'problematic' and infringes on free speech, Germany and France say

Angela Merkel said the free speech should be governed by lawmakers, not private technology companies

nationalpost.com

Germany and France attacked Twitter Inc. and Facebook Inc. after U.S. President Donald Trump was shut off from the social media platforms, in an extension of Europe’s battle with big tech.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel objected to the decisions, saying on Monday that lawmakers should set the rules governing free speech and not private technology companies.

“The chancellor sees the complete closing down of the account of an elected president as problematic,” Steffen Seibert, her chief spokesman, said at a regular news conference in Berlin. Rights like the freedom of speech “can be interfered with, but by law and within the framework defined by the legislature — not according to a corporate decision.”

The German leader’s stance is echoed by the French government. Junior Minister for European Union Affairs Clement Beaune said he was “shocked” to see a private company make such an important decision. “This should be decided by citizens, not by a CEO,” he told Bloomberg TV on Monday. “There needs to be public regulation of big online platforms.” Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire earlier said that the state should be responsible for regulations, rather than “the digital oligarchy,” and called big tech “one of the threats” to democracy.

Europe is increasingly pushing back against the growing influence of big technology companies. The EU is currently in the process of setting up regulation that could give the bloc power to split up platforms if they don’t comply with rules.

Twitter permanently banned Trump last week after it decided the outgoing president’s tweets breached its rules against glorifying violence. It cited his posts on the riots in the U.S. capital.

Things change when you have a seditious riot running through the capital. Trump is just another ignoramus who watched too much Fox Russ slimball etc. A total disgrace we need the fairness convention again. We need to add debate to Fox prime Time and Rush Limbaugh and all our crazies. Pure missinformation

look men, women, the 1st amendment only ably to the government .... go read the damn constitution... it will tell you that they have no control over free speech when it concerns these corporation ... yes there are laws that they have to follow but free speech isn't one of the ... so they can shut down anybody they want fro any reason like they don't like you so out you go...

We had a fairness doctrine for years until Reagan did away with it. We should have debate 5 or 10 minutes an hour so that you people get to hear the truth every once in awhile. The GOP base is so missinformed they have another planet. And imaginary planet that has run into law enforcement now. All your idiotic disrespect and conspiracy theories about our elections and public servants is a disgrace and it's no wonder sedition is produced.

 

[francoHFW]

Maybe Putin can form a kind of NATO to protect them from the Left wing US now.

Frankly a Vlad Putin is exactly the kind of man we need right now, here in America, to reign in blood.

you know I'm a liberal been ... one all as long as I can remember or I could understand what government is about ... all my life I've been called a commie because I felt that people should have some government protection ... and some health care where we don't lose everything we own I was call a commie all my life ... thats all I ever heard from you right wing but jobs is I'm a commie and now you are saying the republicans should become commies ... priceless ...personally I don't think they will let you into the club...

Envision the sound of the loudest, most annoying game show buzzer imaginable. It just went off. Vlad Putin is not a communist, for several self-serving reasons we won't entertain at this moment. What Putin is, is a pure nationalist; a man who loves his nation so deeply he would do anything to preserve it. Anything. Sure, he's an oligarchical dictator and former KGB killer, but the total "good guy" package always comes with a caveat or two.

Where you most misunderstand our current American crisis, apparently, is in the total effort by our elected officials, corporate giants and media to outright hand over our nation to foreign powers. See, we love America unconditionally. We want our America to be preserved and survive at all costs; to protect her sovereignty by any means necessary. Your "side", however, was and remains willing to sell America out to China and others all for the "prize" of bringing down one man: Donald J. Trump. Your "side" holds no allegiance to our Flag, our history, our Constitution, our values or our God. Your side are godless anti-Americans who believe the fulfillment of your own lives to be worth more than the preservation of our country.

You nauseate us.

You are a brainwashed functional moron hater dupe of the greedy idiot lying corrupt scumbag GOP. There was no election fraud and GOP propaganda and Trump are a disgrace. Not to mention the poor fools who listened to them.....

 

[francoHFW]

Pretty sad day when Europe is lecturing the United States about the infringement of free speech.

Yup and an even sadder day when big tech only wants to have liberal speech on their sites. They have been ousting conservative speak for quite some time. I'm glad Trump is setting up his own media site and a new political party. Should be very interesting.

What bologna lol. Stuff happens when you believe the election was fraudulent without evidence and you attack the capital. It's kind of frowned upon lol.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The alt-left bastards have pushed your allies into Chinas arms and they have single handedly allowed America to lose their influence. These moron CEOs have now cut off their noses to spite their faces. Stupid, son of b____s. Now Europe has the perfect excuse they need to regulate, punish and control these networks. Good job political party boot lickers. You did well. Dumb asses.

Since about year 3 of Trumps admin, I never believed that allies hated him as much as the media tried to present. Canada and England might have felt they lost out, that's because they were all in for Hillary. The rest, probably understood the message Trump and U.S intel were giving them. Notice silence from Canada and England on the issue of censorship. That's because THEY want to do the same here in Canada, as an example.

Now, what do they think? How will they react? I give Germany and France some credit. The French have a history of liberty, the Germans have been slower adopters, but it's good to see them all speak out.

Kicking Trump off Twitter is 'problematic' and infringes on free speech, Germany and France say
Angela Merkel said the free speech should be governed by lawmakers, not private technology companies

Kicking Trump off Twitter is 'problematic' and infringes on free speech, Germany and France say

Angela Merkel said the free speech should be governed by lawmakers, not private technology companies

nationalpost.com

Germany and France attacked Twitter Inc. and Facebook Inc. after U.S. President Donald Trump was shut off from the social media platforms, in an extension of Europe’s battle with big tech.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel objected to the decisions, saying on Monday that lawmakers should set the rules governing free speech and not private technology companies.

“The chancellor sees the complete closing down of the account of an elected president as problematic,” Steffen Seibert, her chief spokesman, said at a regular news conference in Berlin. Rights like the freedom of speech “can be interfered with, but by law and within the framework defined by the legislature — not according to a corporate decision.”

The German leader’s stance is echoed by the French government. Junior Minister for European Union Affairs Clement Beaune said he was “shocked” to see a private company make such an important decision. “This should be decided by citizens, not by a CEO,” he told Bloomberg TV on Monday. “There needs to be public regulation of big online platforms.” Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire earlier said that the state should be responsible for regulations, rather than “the digital oligarchy,” and called big tech “one of the threats” to democracy.

Europe is increasingly pushing back against the growing influence of big technology companies. The EU is currently in the process of setting up regulation that could give the bloc power to split up platforms if they don’t comply with rules.

Twitter permanently banned Trump last week after it decided the outgoing president’s tweets breached its rules against glorifying violence. It cited his posts on the riots in the U.S. capital.

Let me know when those two countries tender an offer to buy out the private platforms to they can set their rules.

Let me know when the FedGov will buy the cake shops.

 

[billyerock123]

Maybe Putin can form a kind of NATO to protect them from the Left wing US now.

Frankly a Vlad Putin is exactly the kind of man we need right now, here in America, to reign in blood.

you know I'm a liberal been ... one all as long as I can remember or I could understand what government is about ... all my life I've been called a commie because I felt that people should have some government protection ... and some health care where we don't lose everything we own I was call a commie all my life ... thats all I ever heard from you right wing but jobs is I'm a commie and now you are saying the republicans should become commies ... priceless ...personally I don't think they will let you into the club...

Envision the sound of the loudest, most annoying game show buzzer imaginable. It just went off. Vlad Putin is not a communist, for several self-serving reasons we won't entertain at this moment. What Putin is, is a pure nationalist; a man who loves his nation so deeply he would do anything to preserve it. Anything. Sure, he's an oligarchical dictator and former KGB killer, but the total "good guy" package always comes with a caveat or two.

Where you most misunderstand our current American crisis, apparently, is in the total effort by our elected officials, corporate giants and media to outright hand over our nation to foreign powers. See, we love America unconditionally. We want our America to be preserved and survive at all costs; to protect her sovereignty by any means necessary. Your "side", however, was and remains willing to sell America out to China and others all for the "prize" of bringing down one man: Donald J. Trump. Your "side" holds no allegiance to our Flag, our history, our Constitution, our values or our God. Your side are godless anti-Americans who believe the fulfillment of your own lives to be worth more than the preservation of our country.

You nauseate us.

ya have to remember republicans aren't to bright ... they ll think Putin is a commie...

 

[blackhawk]

 

[dblack]

The alt-left bastards have pushed your allies into Chinas arms and they have single handedly allowed America to lose their influence. These moron CEOs have now cut off their noses to spite their faces. Stupid, son of b____s. Now Europe has the perfect excuse they need to regulate, punish and control these networks. Good job political party boot lickers. You did well. Dumb asses.

Since about year 3 of Trumps admin, I never believed that allies hated him as much as the media tried to present. Canada and England might have felt they lost out, that's because they were all in for Hillary. The rest, probably understood the message Trump and U.S intel were giving them. Notice silence from Canada and England on the issue of censorship. That's because THEY want to do the same here in Canada, as an example.

Now, what do they think? How will they react? I give Germany and France some credit. The French have a history of liberty, the Germans have been slower adopters, but it's good to see them all speak out.

Kicking Trump off Twitter is 'problematic' and infringes on free speech, Germany and France say
Angela Merkel said the free speech should be governed by lawmakers, not private technology companies

Kicking Trump off Twitter is 'problematic' and infringes on free speech, Germany and France say

Angela Merkel said the free speech should be governed by lawmakers, not private technology companies

nationalpost.com

Germany and France attacked Twitter Inc. and Facebook Inc. after U.S. President Donald Trump was shut off from the social media platforms, in an extension of Europe’s battle with big tech.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel objected to the decisions, saying on Monday that lawmakers should set the rules governing free speech and not private technology companies.

“The chancellor sees the complete closing down of the account of an elected president as problematic,” Steffen Seibert, her chief spokesman, said at a regular news conference in Berlin. Rights like the freedom of speech “can be interfered with, but by law and within the framework defined by the legislature — not according to a corporate decision.”

The German leader’s stance is echoed by the French government. Junior Minister for European Union Affairs Clement Beaune said he was “shocked” to see a private company make such an important decision. “This should be decided by citizens, not by a CEO,” he told Bloomberg TV on Monday. “There needs to be public regulation of big online platforms.” Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire earlier said that the state should be responsible for regulations, rather than “the digital oligarchy,” and called big tech “one of the threats” to democracy.

Europe is increasingly pushing back against the growing influence of big technology companies. The EU is currently in the process of setting up regulation that could give the bloc power to split up platforms if they don’t comply with rules.

Twitter permanently banned Trump last week after it decided the outgoing president’s tweets breached its rules against glorifying violence. It cited his posts on the riots in the U.S. capital.

Let me know when those two countries tender an offer to buy out the private platforms to they can set their rules.

Let me know when the FedGov will buy the cake shops.

What does that mean?

 

[billyerock123]

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Do you understand what the constitution says ??? free speech is only for the government ...you can say what you want about the government ... you don't get this right when it comes to a corporation ... no corporations in this country or any country will allow anyone the benefit of free speech ... you republican seem to say well, its my constitution right... so why don't you read the damn constitution... tell us all where it says corporations has to accept what the constitution free speech ... I'll wait ...

 

[billyerock123]

View attachment 442754

Do you understand what the constitution says ??? free speech is only for the government ...you can say what you want about the government ... you don't get this right when it comes to a corporation ... no corporations in this country or any country will allow anyone the benefit of free speech ... you republican seem to say well, its my constitution right... so why don't you read the damn constitution... tell us all where it says corporations has to accept what the constitution free speech ... I'll wait ...

heres what Germany said: German chancellor Angela Merkel regards Donald Trump's permanent ban from Twitter as 'problematic' because it gives too much power to social media … she didn't say it was wrong violating his rights they were concerned about the media being to strong ... so nice spin ...

 

[blackhawk]

View attachment 442754

Do you understand what the constitution says ??? free speech is only for the government ...you can say what you want about the government ... you don't get this right when it comes to a corporation ... no corporations in this country or any country will allow anyone the benefit of free speech ... you republican seem to say well, its my constitution right... so why don't you read the damn constitution... tell us all where it says corporations has to accept what the constitution free speech ... I'll wait ...

heres what Germany said: German chancellor Angela Merkel regards Donald Trump's permanent ban from Twitter as 'problematic' because it gives too much power to social media … she didn't say it was wrong violating his rights they were concerned about the media being to strong ... so nice spin ...

Facebook and Twitter claim they are platforms for free speech if that is the case all speech is allowed. If you are banning and censoring people based on arbitrary standards you are a publisher and no longer entitled to the protection of section 230. I suspect the left will finally understand this when they express a view or opinion Zuckerberg or Dorsey don’t approve of and get censored or banned sadly by then it will be to late as they will have let them gain to much power and control.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The alt-left bastards have pushed your allies into Chinas arms and they have single handedly allowed America to lose their influence. These moron CEOs have now cut off their noses to spite their faces. Stupid, son of b____s. Now Europe has the perfect excuse they need to regulate, punish and control these networks. Good job political party boot lickers. You did well. Dumb asses.

Since about year 3 of Trumps admin, I never believed that allies hated him as much as the media tried to present. Canada and England might have felt they lost out, that's because they were all in for Hillary. The rest, probably understood the message Trump and U.S intel were giving them. Notice silence from Canada and England on the issue of censorship. That's because THEY want to do the same here in Canada, as an example.

Now, what do they think? How will they react? I give Germany and France some credit. The French have a history of liberty, the Germans have been slower adopters, but it's good to see them all speak out.

Kicking Trump off Twitter is 'problematic' and infringes on free speech, Germany and France say
Angela Merkel said the free speech should be governed by lawmakers, not private technology companies

Kicking Trump off Twitter is 'problematic' and infringes on free speech, Germany and France say

Angela Merkel said the free speech should be governed by lawmakers, not private technology companies

nationalpost.com

Germany and France attacked Twitter Inc. and Facebook Inc. after U.S. President Donald Trump was shut off from the social media platforms, in an extension of Europe’s battle with big tech.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel objected to the decisions, saying on Monday that lawmakers should set the rules governing free speech and not private technology companies.

“The chancellor sees the complete closing down of the account of an elected president as problematic,” Steffen Seibert, her chief spokesman, said at a regular news conference in Berlin. Rights like the freedom of speech “can be interfered with, but by law and within the framework defined by the legislature — not according to a corporate decision.”

The German leader’s stance is echoed by the French government. Junior Minister for European Union Affairs Clement Beaune said he was “shocked” to see a private company make such an important decision. “This should be decided by citizens, not by a CEO,” he told Bloomberg TV on Monday. “There needs to be public regulation of big online platforms.” Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire earlier said that the state should be responsible for regulations, rather than “the digital oligarchy,” and called big tech “one of the threats” to democracy.

Europe is increasingly pushing back against the growing influence of big technology companies. The EU is currently in the process of setting up regulation that could give the bloc power to split up platforms if they don’t comply with rules.

Twitter permanently banned Trump last week after it decided the outgoing president’s tweets breached its rules against glorifying violence. It cited his posts on the riots in the U.S. capital.

Both France and Germany are ignorant as to what constitutes free speech in the United States, and both are consequently wrong.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Free is the opposite of governed, by lawmakers or big tech...

This is ignorant and wrong; social media is not 'government,' it has no authority to either preempt or limit speech, social media cannot 'violate' free speech.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Free is the opposite of governed, by lawmakers or big tech...

Big tech has no power to "govern". That's a conceit propagated by socialists who want government to take over social media.

Dblack you make an excellent point that Big Tech has no power to govern, yet that exact intent is there without question based upon banning certain users but not others for the same action. Gagging a specific action should mean that all people doing same/similar thing should be gagged/banned as well, that is if the corporation professes to be apolitical, but that has not been the case (Madonna’s political call for violence passed their standards for unknown reasons if truly apolitical in nature while banning Trump).

Ok, fine. But it's not government's concern. I have no problem with pointing out that some of these company's policies are biased and, arguably, unfair. But when Trumpsters start talking about nationalizing them, declaring them public utilities, or otherwise using government to "go after" the companies who don't cater to the President - that's an abuse of government.

An abuse of government? You mean the democrats who are calling for the companies to ban people.

Insanely disgusting... the people who always take issues with loopholes have created an enormous first amendment loop hole and dancing around as if this is some type of moral victory. Or if you want to hear more accurate assessment, Satanists are being Satanic.

This is an idiotic lie.

Democrats are not telling social media to 'ban' people.