Kevin Costner In 13 days - the cuban missile crisis

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Our missiles in Turkey were obsolete and going to be pulled out anyway. We got something for nothing.

That was an excuse. They would have been replaced. The key was doing it under the table so we wouldn’t look bad to our allies and it provided plausible deniability.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I didn't get vaccinated because someone told me to. I did it because its the right thing to do.
The difference between you and I is one of culture. The Cherokee elder, Stan Rushworth, said it best when he said "The difference between a Western settler mindset of, I have rights and an indigenous mindset of I have an obligation.” Instead of thinking that I am born with rights, I choose to think that I was born with obligations to serve past, present, and future generations, and the planet herself.”

I got vaxxed and came down with a bad case of the chicom bio attack shortly thereafter. The vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission and is counterproductive for some.
Your obligations should be rooted in logic. You don’t shoot yourself in the foot in order to honor previous generations. That results in extinction. You need to progress.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That was an excuse. They would have been replaced. The key was doing it under the table so we wouldn’t look bad to our allies and it provided plausible deniability.

What was "under the table"?

 

[Hellbilly]

I got vaxxed and came down with a bad case of the chicom bio attack shortly thereafter. The vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission and is counterproductive for some.
Your obligations should be rooted in logic. You don’t shoot yourself in the foot in order to honor previous generations. That results in extinction. You need to progress.

Logic, you say? I am 63 years old. For the last 62 years either me or someone I know got sick during the winter. That was until last year. Last year was the first year that no one I know got a sickness of any kind. The flu, a cold, the sniffles. Nothing. It was also the first winter where everyone was wearing masks and avoiding crowds. Logic would say that those two things prevented people from getting sick. As far as the vaccine goes anyone with at least half a brain knows its not a cure. It doesn't prevent you from getting Covid. What it does do is lessens the chances of getting it and if you do get it it'll be less severe.
My obligations are not to honor previous generations but to help protect future generations.

 

[Dayton3]

Remember that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were both airbursts. No fallout from those two?

Very little.

 

[Dayton3]

How? I am not disclosing my personally identifiable information to you or anyone else.

Then you can't use it to support your position.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Then you can't use it to support your position.

Fine. You STFU too!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Very little.

Ever watched a fireball from a nuclear blast? No updraft in that mushroom cloud, huh?

 

[Dayton3]

Ever watched a fireball from a nuclear blast? No updraft in that mushroom cloud, huh?

I never said that.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I never said that.

Who the fuck cares what you said? What do you think causes fallout? Radioactive air?

 

[Dayton3]

Who the fuck cares what you said? What do you think causes fallout? Radioactive air?

radioactive fallout consists mainly of soil irradiated and blown aloft

 

[whitehall]

I cannot agree with Turtlesoup in post #33

but I do agree with your claim that the soviets thought kennedy was weak

JFK Was Completely Unprepared For His Summit with Khrushchev | HISTORY

'He just beat the hell out of me,' Kennedy said of his meeting with his Cold War adversary.

www.history.com

JFK lived in a bubble created by the fawning media. It was Camelot for God's sake. How could anyone criticize the new US royalty? JFK's speech to the German people while the "Wall" was being constructed by the Russians was vapid and meaningless and insulting to the Germans but it was met with a rousing cheer in the media. That's the way the system worked. It's no secret that JFK's peculiar A.G. brother spent his time plotting how to assassinate the leader, Castro, of a sovereign nation. The media didn't flinch even when JFK authorized the CIA to invade a freaking foreign country. The CIA welcomed a freaking traitor who abandoned his post and renounced his citizenship back to the U.S. with his KGB bride and lost track of the little weasel who went by the name of Lee Oswald. What were they thinking? It did 't matter if nothing made sense during the JFK years but the media justified it so it wasn't discussed and the media writes the history books.

 

[airplanemechanic]

My mother was in grade school during the CMC and told me that we were within 1 hour of nuclear holocaust.

 

[Dayton3]

JFK lived in a bubble created by the fawning media. It was Camelot for God's sake. How could anyone criticize the new US royalty? JFK's speech to the German people while the "Wall" was being constructed by the Russians was vapid and meaningless and insulting to the Germans but it was met with a rousing cheer in the media. That's the way the system worked. It's no secret that JFK's peculiar A.G. brother spent his time plotting how to assassinate the leader, Castro, of a sovereign nation. The media didn't flinch even when JFK authorized the CIA to invade a freaking foreign country. The CIA welcomed a freaking traitor who abandoned his post and renounced his citizenship back to the U.S. with his KGB bride and lost track of the little weasel who went by the name of Lee Oswald. What were they thinking? It did 't matter if nothing made sense during the JFK years but the media justified it so it wasn't discussed and the media writes the history books.

In fairness almost all of the prep for the Bay of Pigs invasion had taken place before JFK took office.

 

[Dayton3]

My mother was in grade school during the CMC and told me that we were within 1 hour of nuclear holocaust.

She was wrong.

 

[airplanemechanic]

She was wrong.

Also heard the same thing on Discovery about the CMC.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

She was wrong.

But she couldn’t have known that.
It was a scary time.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

radioactive fallout consists mainly of soil irradiated and blown aloft

Congratulations! That's about the first thing you have right. I guess Google works, huh?

 

[Mac-7]

But she couldn’t have known that.

One hour or one day

What difference does it make?

We were on the brink

 

[Dayton3]

Congratulations! That's about the first thing you have right. I guess Google works, huh?

I've known that for years.