Kerry: Putin is going to lose

[Stephanie]

my gawd we have a house of clowns running this country

that buffoon Lurch Jon Heinz- Kerry just a few weeks ago was out ranting how Globull warming was our biggest threat and enemy...

gawd save us all from this bunch

 

[kaz]

Kerry: Putin is going to lose

This is going to be like Syria where Putin gets everything he wants and Obama declares victory...

 

[The T]

Your 'fellow' conservatives adore Putin so much right now that one begins to wonder... how long before they eye 'Stalin' with equal respect.

You're full of it.

Putin is also a 'proud member of "Obama's enemies list" along with yourself. So you see, I'm not so far off. How long before you come out of the 'Stalin' admiration club closet?

NO Conservative I know holds ANY of the aforementioned in high esteem as ALL are TYRANTS. Now HOW did you miss that> ? Your talking points didn't state it. Grow up son. Start thinking for yourself. STOP being a follower of FAILURE.

 

[kidrocks]

Kerry: Putin is going to lose

This is going to be like Syria where Putin gets everything he wants and Obama declares victory...

Hold on. Maybe Putin's not through yet... he may want to annex Poland next. And then on to the old Czechoslovakia... that'll teach Obama huh guys?

 

[The T]

Kerry: Putin is going to lose

This is going to be like Syria where Putin gets everything he wants and Obama declares victory...

Hold on. Maybe Putin's not through yet... he may want to annex Poland next. And then on to the old Czechoslovakia... that'll teach Obama huh guys?

AGAIN (As I asked YOU in your other FAIL thread)? WHY did Obama stop the deployment of missle systems in POLAND?

 

[kidrocks]

You're full of it.

Putin is also a 'proud member of "Obama's enemies list" along with yourself. So you see, I'm not so far off. How long before you come out of the 'Stalin' admiration club closet?

NO Conservative I know holds ANY of the aforementioned in high esteem as ALL are TYRANTS. Now HOW did you miss that> ? Your talking points didn't state it. Grow up son. Start thinking for yourself. STOP being a follower of FAILURE.

Give it time, tyrants such as Putin are very attractive to conservatives now days. Weak-kneed liberal Americans such as Obama need not apply.

 

[MACAULAY]

Winston Churchill: The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.


Does anybody disagree with this quote from Churchill (plucked from an earlier post), and if so why?

 

[georgephillip]

This is going to be like Syria where Putin gets everything he wants and Obama declares victory...

Hold on. Maybe Putin's not through yet... he may want to annex Poland next. And then on to the old Czechoslovakia... that'll teach Obama huh guys?

AGAIN (As I asked YOU in your other FAIL thread)? WHY did Obama stop the deployment of missle systems in POLAND?

"The US missile defense complex in Poland, also called the European Interceptor Site (EIS), was part of the Ballistic Missile Defense European Capability of the US. It was intended to be in Redzikowo, Słupsk, and Poland, forming a Ground-Based Midcourse Defense system in conjunction with an US narrow-beam midcourse tracking and discrimination radar system in the Brdy, or hills located in the Czech Republic.

"It was to consist of up to 10 silo-based interceptors: two-stage versions of the existing three-stage Ground Based Interceptors with Exoatmospheric Kill Vehicles and a closing speed of about 7 km/s.

"The plan was cancelled in 2009 and superseded by a more phased, practical one—the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System, which will include SM-3 Block IIA interceptors to be positioned in Poland around 2018."

US missile defense complex in Poland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now explain what YOUR reaction would be if Putin installed similar "interceptors" in Cuba because he wanted to protect Canada from North Korean nukes.

"Russia threatened to place short-range nuclear missiles on its borders with NATO if the United States refused to abandon its plans to deploy 10 interceptor missiles and a radar in Poland and the Czech Republic.[12][13] In April 2007, then-President Putin warned of a new Cold War if the Americans deployed the shield in Central Europe.[14] Putin also said that Russia was prepared to abandon its obligations under a Nuclear Forces Treaty of 1987 with the United States."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_missile_defense_complex_in_Poland#History

 

[kaz]

Now explain what YOUR reaction would be if Putin installed similar "interceptors" in Cuba because he wanted to protect Canada from North Korean nukes.

While I disagree with our judgement to invade Iraq or nation build in Afghanistan, clearly we aren't there to rule them. I reject your premise that we are or need to pretend to be equivalent to Russia.

 

[Iceweasel]

"The plan was cancelled in 2009 and superseded by a more phased, practical one—the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System, which will include SM-3 Block IIA interceptors to be positioned in Poland around 2018."

US missile defense complex in Poland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now explain what YOUR reaction would be if Putin installed similar "interceptors" in Cuba because he wanted to protect Canada from North Korean nukes.

What is it with liberals and Wikipedia anyway? It's like your Bible. If a quote on Wikipedia says something is better, then it's better, no need for thought or further investigation. Does Poland think it's better and are they holding their breath for 2018? It may be too late and it may not happen at all.

And your analogy doesn't make any more sense than it did before.

 

[MisterBeale]

"Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke about the Russia-propelled crisis in Crimea in a news conference on Tuesday, where he presented a number of opinions that are unlikely to win over the international community.

"Putin started out by saying that the changing of the guard in the Ukraine — from ousted president Viktor Yanukovych to an interim government holding down the political fort until December elections — was the result of an 'unconstitutional coup and armed seizure of power.'

"Yesterday, Russian officials presented a document purportedly penned by Yanukovych asking Moscow to send troops into Crimea 'to establish legitimacy, peace, law and order, stability and defending the people of Ukraine.'

"But last week, Yanukovych said during a press conference in Russia that 'any military action in this situation is unacceptable,' though Russia could not ignore the situation unfolding in Crimea."

Vladimir Putin Thinks He Has the Right to Do a Lot of Things in Ukraine - The Wire

Ick. This source slammed RT? That's the pot calling the kettle black.

I thought the analysis of this source was pretty sober.

Both these articles seemed pretty unbiased. The Chinese government has not yet officially recognized the ruling authority of the new Ukranian Government. That should tell us something.

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90777/8552726.html

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/98649/8546932.html

 

[RoadVirus]

Your 'fellow' conservatives adore Putin so much right now that one begins to wonder... how long before they eye 'Stalin' with equal respect.

You're full of it.

Putin is also a 'proud member of "Obama's enemies list" along with yourself. So you see, I'm not so far off. How long before you come out of the 'Stalin' admiration club closet?

The day i praise the work of Stalin is the day i cut my balls off with a rusty knife.

Now go back to playing in the sandbox with your friends, Kiddy.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Go Kerry... kick Putin's ass all the way back to Siberia.






Kerry condemns Russia's 'act of aggression' | MSNBC

Kerry declared Putin will come out of this ordeal the loser. “He’s going to lose on the international stage, Russia is going to lose, the Russian people are going to lose, and he’s going to lose all of the glow that came out of the Olympics, his $60 billion extravaganza.”

is this guy serious, this adminstration couldnt kick my ass

 

[The T]

Hold on. Maybe Putin's not through yet... he may want to annex Poland next. And then on to the old Czechoslovakia... that'll teach Obama huh guys?

AGAIN (As I asked YOU in your other FAIL thread)? WHY did Obama stop the deployment of missle systems in POLAND?

"The US missile defense complex in Poland, also called the European Interceptor Site (EIS), was part of the Ballistic Missile Defense European Capability of the US. It was intended to be in Redzikowo, Słupsk, and Poland, forming a Ground-Based Midcourse Defense system in conjunction with an US narrow-beam midcourse tracking and discrimination radar system in the Brdy, or hills located in the Czech Republic.

"It was to consist of up to 10 silo-based interceptors: two-stage versions of the existing three-stage Ground Based Interceptors with Exoatmospheric Kill Vehicles and a closing speed of about 7 km/s.

"The plan was cancelled in 2009 and superseded by a more phased, practical one—the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System, which will include SM-3 Block IIA interceptors to be positioned in Poland around 2018."

US missile defense complex in Poland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now explain what YOUR reaction would be if Putin installed similar "interceptors" in Cuba because he wanted to protect Canada from North Korean nukes.

"Russia threatened to place short-range nuclear missiles on its borders with NATO if the United States refused to abandon its plans to deploy 10 interceptor missiles and a radar in Poland and the Czech Republic.[12][13] In April 2007, then-President Putin warned of a new Cold War if the Americans deployed the shield in Central Europe.[14] Putin also said that Russia was prepared to abandon its obligations under a Nuclear Forces Treaty of 1987 with the United States."

US missile defense complex in Poland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's a false premise so you WON'T get an answer. I reject it and YOU

 

[georgephillip]

Now explain what YOUR reaction would be if Putin installed similar "interceptors" in Cuba because he wanted to protect Canada from North Korean nukes.

While I disagree with our judgement to invade Iraq or nation build in Afghanistan, clearly we aren't there to rule them. I reject your premise that we are or need to pretend to be equivalent to Russia.

You should be willing to consider the possibility that we, the greatest purveyor of violence in the world, don't care how many human beings we maim, murder, or displace in order to control resources on the opposite side of the planet from our homeland.

Regarding Ukraine, I believe we need to establish which side of the struggle used snipers to murder police officers and civilians in the days immediately preceding a democratically elected president being driven from office.

Would you agree?

 

[georgephillip]

"The plan was cancelled in 2009 and superseded by a more phased, practical one—the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System, which will include SM-3 Block IIA interceptors to be positioned in Poland around 2018."

US missile defense complex in Poland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now explain what YOUR reaction would be if Putin installed similar "interceptors" in Cuba because he wanted to protect Canada from North Korean nukes.

What is it with liberals and Wikipedia anyway? It's like your Bible. If a quote on Wikipedia says something is better, then it's better, no need for thought or further investigation. Does Poland think it's better and are they holding their breath for 2018? It may be too late and it may not happen at all.

And your analogy doesn't make any more sense than it did before.

Does Poland know it's a member of NATO, do you?

"Russia threatened to place short-range nuclear missiles on its borders with NATO if the United States refused to abandon its plans to deploy 10 interceptor missiles and a radar in Poland and the Czech Republic."

US missile defense complex in Poland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why do conservatives automatically suspect any source that doesn't depend on corporate advertising?

 

[georgephillip]

AGAIN (As I asked YOU in your other FAIL thread)? WHY did Obama stop the deployment of missle systems in POLAND?

"The US missile defense complex in Poland, also called the European Interceptor Site (EIS), was part of the Ballistic Missile Defense European Capability of the US. It was intended to be in Redzikowo, Słupsk, and Poland, forming a Ground-Based Midcourse Defense system in conjunction with an US narrow-beam midcourse tracking and discrimination radar system in the Brdy, or hills located in the Czech Republic.

"It was to consist of up to 10 silo-based interceptors: two-stage versions of the existing three-stage Ground Based Interceptors with Exoatmospheric Kill Vehicles and a closing speed of about 7 km/s.

"The plan was cancelled in 2009 and superseded by a more phased, practical one—the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System, which will include SM-3 Block IIA interceptors to be positioned in Poland around 2018."

US missile defense complex in Poland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now explain what YOUR reaction would be if Putin installed similar "interceptors" in Cuba because he wanted to protect Canada from North Korean nukes.

"Russia threatened to place short-range nuclear missiles on its borders with NATO if the United States refused to abandon its plans to deploy 10 interceptor missiles and a radar in Poland and the Czech Republic.[12][13] In April 2007, then-President Putin warned of a new Cold War if the Americans deployed the shield in Central Europe.[14] Putin also said that Russia was prepared to abandon its obligations under a Nuclear Forces Treaty of 1987 with the United States."

US missile defense complex in Poland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's a false premise so you WON'T get an answer. I reject it and YOU

Because you support American Exceptionalism.
You believe Americans have the right to base missiles on the borders of Russia because we're the "good guys?"
Mention that to the Iraqis, Libyans, and Syrians, etc, etc, etc.

 

[Iceweasel]

And your analogy doesn't make any more sense than it did before.

Does Poland know it's a member of NATO, do you?

"Russia threatened to place short-range nuclear missiles on its borders with NATO if the United States refused to abandon its plans to deploy 10 interceptor missiles and a radar in Poland and the Czech Republic."

US missile defense complex in Poland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why do conservatives automatically suspect any source that doesn't depend on corporate advertising?

It costs Wikipedia too. Everything cost money, I'd rather see where the money is coming from. I suspect Wikipedia is funded by leftists, given the nature of the op-ed pieces that liberals accept as fact.

How did Russian make an agreement with NATO to put missles in Russia? I don't think you understand why NATO was formed.

 

[Iceweasel]

Because you support American Exceptionalism. You believe Americans have the right to base missiles on the borders of Russia because we're the "good guys?"

Yes, we're the good guys. Ask Germany, South Korea, Japan, England, etc., etc. Russia has a track record too. If you prefer it, please move there.

 

[dannyboys]

Dumbya ruined any leverage we had in world politics.

lol, you just brought up Bush as to why Obama sucks. That's funny.

Who said Obama sucks?

That would be Larry Sinclair pal. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kbhkFrrxNs]Larry Sinclair Press Conference about Gay Love Affair with Barack Obama FULL MOVIE - YouTube[/ame]