Keeping guns from criminals - liberals, what is your plan?

[Pete7469]

KAZ: I ask people what should we do and they don't have an answer. You know what we should do to solve a problem? Nothing!!

I'm not sure what that means.

Of course you don't...

You say that liberals don't have an answer. Your answer to gun violence? Do nothing.

So you and liberals both have something in common

Bullshit.

Our plan is simple. Allow people to defend themselves from sociopathic killers. Make sure people are trained to safely and effectively use weapons.

 

[martybegan]

Canada, Australia and the UK all have gun laws that we could rely on as positive foreign models. They are not perfect, and gun crimes exist there, but not to the extent they do here. Guns are everywhere in America, and so is gun violence. It's not some amazing coincidence.

Then move there you anti-american troll asshole.

 

[kaz]

Canada, Australia and the UK all have gun laws that we could rely on as positive foreign models. They are not perfect, and gun crimes exist there, but not to the extent they do here. Guns are everywhere in America, and so is gun violence. It's not some amazing coincidence.

Please don't try and use common sense here. "Why don't you move to Socialist Australia" is the response you should expect shortly.

Still a non-answer. Explain how when any kid can get unlimited pot, which is entirely against the law, gun laws are going to prevent criminals from getting guns which are everywhere inside and outside the country.

 

[RDD_1210]

A good first step is registration of all firearms and background checks on ALL gun sales. Even between private parties. This will allow responsible gun owners to continue to own anything they want but will help place responsibility on to people who sell guns to people who shouldn't have them or end up using them for murder/crime.

We can certainly start there.

As soon as we start registering every book you own, every website you visit, and requiring registration for trial by jury or public defense, we will get right on it.

Didn't realize people were being slaughtered daily with books and websites. But other than that, good analogy.

 

[RDD_1210]

Canada, Australia and the UK all have gun laws that we could rely on as positive foreign models. They are not perfect, and gun crimes exist there, but not to the extent they do here. Guns are everywhere in America, and so is gun violence. It's not some amazing coincidence.

Then move there you anti-american troll asshole.

I fucking called this canned response from a mile away. You sheep are all the same.

 

[RDD_1210]

Canada, Australia and the UK all have gun laws that we could rely on as positive foreign models. They are not perfect, and gun crimes exist there, but not to the extent they do here. Guns are everywhere in America, and so is gun violence. It's not some amazing coincidence.

Please don't try and use common sense here. "Why don't you move to Socialist Australia" is the response you should expect shortly.

Still a non-answer. Explain how when any kid can get unlimited pot, which is entirely against the law, gun laws are going to prevent criminals from getting guns which are everywhere inside and outside the country.

I answered on the last page. You ignored it. Not my fault.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Canada, Australia and the UK all have gun laws that we could rely on as positive foreign models. They are not perfect, and gun crimes exist there, but not to the extent they do here. Guns are everywhere in America, and so is gun violence. It's not some amazing coincidence.

This is where they will do their famous routine called: If a law hasn't stopped something 100% then its a waste of time

 

[ClosedCaption]

Canada, Australia and the UK all have gun laws that we could rely on as positive foreign models. They are not perfect, and gun crimes exist there, but not to the extent they do here. Guns are everywhere in America, and so is gun violence. It's not some amazing coincidence.

Please don't try and use common sense here. "Why don't you move to Socialist Australia" is the response you should expect shortly.

Right on the money.

 

[ba1614]

Canada, Australia and the UK all have gun laws that we could rely on as positive foreign models. They are not perfect, and gun crimes exist there, but not to the extent they do here. Guns are everywhere in America, and so is gun violence. It's not some amazing coincidence.

Again, take out the progressive Utopias of gun control like Chicago and Detroit out of the equation and American gun crime stats are in line with the rest of the planet.

 

[Steven_R]

A good first step is registration of all firearms and background checks on ALL gun sales. Even between private parties. This will allow responsible gun owners to continue to own anything they want but will help place responsibility on to people who sell guns to people who shouldn't have them or end up using them for murder/crime.

We can certainly start there.

As soon as we start registering every book you own, every website you visit, and requiring registration for trial by jury or public defense, we will get right on it.

Didn't realize people were being slaughtered daily with books and websites. But other than that, good analogy.

Let's say you get your way and guns are registered which has invariably led to outrght banned because governments don't keep lists unless they intended to use them. Then what? I'm not giving up my guns, so that means someone is going to have to come and take them. Are you willing to kick in my door or will you just send other people to take the risk?

 

[ClosedCaption]

I'm not sure what that means.

Of course you don't...

You say that liberals don't have an answer. Your answer to gun violence? Do nothing.

So you and liberals both have something in common

Bullshit.

Our plan is simple. Allow people to defend themselves from sociopathic killers. Make sure people are trained to safely and effectively use weapons.

By....doing nothing. Like I said. You and those awful awful liberals both have something in common. Liberals don't know what to do and you say do nothing.

 

[Yurt]

KAZ: I ask people what should we do and they don't have an answer. You know what we should do to solve a problem? Nothing!!

i've asked you for a suggestion and you have yet to give one

 

[ClosedCaption]

Canada, Australia and the UK all have gun laws that we could rely on as positive foreign models. They are not perfect, and gun crimes exist there, but not to the extent they do here. Guns are everywhere in America, and so is gun violence. It's not some amazing coincidence.

Again, take out the progressive Utopias of gun control like Chicago and Detroit out of the equation and American gun crime stats are in line with the rest of the planet.

Ahahaha, translation: how about we fudge the numbers and it will look great

 

[ClosedCaption]

KAZ: I ask people what should we do and they don't have an answer. You know what we should do to solve a problem? Nothing!!

i've asked you for a suggestion and you have yet to give one

Following your lead sweet cheeks

 

[Yurt]

notice how the liberals who responded did not offer any suggestions, rather, just mocked the thread

FACT: liberals don't have a plan, just fear mongering and rabid anti gun nut rants, but no plans

 

[Yurt]

KAZ: I ask people what should we do and they don't have an answer. You know what we should do to solve a problem? Nothing!!

i've asked you for a suggestion and you have yet to give one

Following your lead sweet cheeks

when did you ask me for a suggestion?

oh wait, you didn't liar.

 

[kaz]

Please don't try and use common sense here. "Why don't you move to Socialist Australia" is the response you should expect shortly.

Still a non-answer. Explain how when any kid can get unlimited pot, which is entirely against the law, gun laws are going to prevent criminals from getting guns which are everywhere inside and outside the country.

I answered on the last page. You ignored it. Not my fault.

Seriously? You think this addresses the question?

A good first step is registration of all firearms and background checks on ALL gun sales. Even between private parties. This will allow responsible gun owners to continue to own anything they want but will help place responsibility on to people who sell guns to people who shouldn't have them or end up using them for murder/crime.

We can certainly start there.

There are so many problems with your post. I didn't ask for a first step. That it would allow gun owners to "own anything" actually is not true unless you undo a bunch of laws and address carrying them. Having a gun at home's not going to help you when the shooting starts.

Most of all, you addressed legal ownership, not illegal ownership. You didn't address the main question at all.

In particular, address given that drugs are illegal, and yet any parent knows any kid can get as much pot as they want. There are millions of guns in the US, millions more in the world. So don't just say more laws, explain how more laws are going to actually work

 

[RDD_1210]

Canada, Australia and the UK all have gun laws that we could rely on as positive foreign models. They are not perfect, and gun crimes exist there, but not to the extent they do here. Guns are everywhere in America, and so is gun violence. It's not some amazing coincidence.

Again, take out the progressive Utopias of gun control like Chicago and Detroit out of the equation and American gun crime stats are in line with the rest of the planet.

False.

 

[RDD_1210]

As soon as we start registering every book you own, every website you visit, and requiring registration for trial by jury or public defense, we will get right on it.

Didn't realize people were being slaughtered daily with books and websites. But other than that, good analogy.

Let's say you get your way and guns are registered which has invariably led to outrght banned because governments don't keep lists unless they intended to use them. Then what? I'm not giving up my guns, so that means someone is going to have to come and take them. Are you willing to kick in my door or will you just send other people to take the risk?

Holy fucking leap you're taking there. Who said anything about taking them. Was your car taken away when you registered it?

 

[RDD_1210]

Still a non-answer. Explain how when any kid can get unlimited pot, which is entirely against the law, gun laws are going to prevent criminals from getting guns which are everywhere inside and outside the country.

I answered on the last page. You ignored it. Not my fault.

Seriously? You think this addresses the question?

A good first step is registration of all firearms and background checks on ALL gun sales. Even between private parties. This will allow responsible gun owners to continue to own anything they want but will help place responsibility on to people who sell guns to people who shouldn't have them or end up using them for murder/crime.

We can certainly start there.

There are so many problems with your post. I didn't ask for a first step. That it would allow gun owners to "own anything" actually is not true unless you undo a bunch of laws and address carrying them. Having a gun at home's not going to help you when the shooting starts.

Most of all, you addressed legal ownership, not illegal ownership. You didn't address the main question at all.

In particular, address given that drugs are illegal, and yet any parent knows any kid can get as much pot as they want. There are millions of guns in the US, millions more in the world. So don't just say more laws, explain how more laws are going to actually work

Which part of my response didn't you like? Because you certainly didn't respond to anything I actually suggested.

And just like I thought, this is a troll thread started by someone who has ZERO interest in actual discussion.

How naive of me to even think that was possible.