Katyn massacre

[eagle7-31]

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One of Stalin's moves. tried to blame the Nazis but this one was on Stalin and the NKDV.

 

[1srelluc]

I don't remember how it happened but there were a bunch of survivors from that to tell the tale.

 

[odanny]

It was Stalin removing the officer corps of the Polish military, including both junior and senior officers. It's what despots do, and the targets are usually senior clergy, members of academia, and senior military officers.

It is so sadly ironic to hear of the Nazi's finding this site and saying "Hey, look at all the innocent people Stalin killed."

 

[0311]

Katyn massacre - Wikipedia

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One of Stalin's moves. tried to blame the Nazis but this one was on Stalin and the NKDV.

No, those Russian Troops that did that. But thank you for our daily dose of MAGA MAGGOT Propaganda.

 

[eagle7-31]

No, those Russian Troops that did that. But thank you for our daily dose of MAGA MAGGOT Propaganda.

The Katyn massacre<a href="Katyn massacre - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>a<span>]</span></a> was a series of mass executions of nearly 22,000 Polish military and police officers, border guards, and intelligentsia prisoners of war carried out by the Soviet Union, specifically the NKVD (the Soviet secret police), at Joseph Stalin's order in April and May 1940. Though the killings also occurred in the Kalinin and Kharkiv NKVD prisons and elsewhere,

As pointed out it was Stalin's orders. What does MAGA have to do with that?

 

[0311]

The Katyn massacre<a href="Katyn massacre - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>a<span>]</span></a> was a series of mass executions of nearly 22,000 Polish military and police officers, border guards, and intelligentsia prisoners of war carried out by the Soviet Union, specifically the NKVD (the Soviet secret police), at Joseph Stalin's order in April and May 1940. Though the killings also occurred in the Kalinin and Kharkiv NKVD prisons and elsewhere,

As pointed out it was Stalin's orders. What does MAGA have to do with that?

Katyn was in the Russian Zone of Occupation prior to the German Invasion of Russia. Stalin ordered it, maybe you want believe that Hitler was good guy, either way you are wrong.

 

[eagle7-31]

Katyn was in the Russian Zone of Occupation prior to the German Invasion of Russia. Stalin ordered it, maybe you want believe that Hitler was good guy, either way you are wrong.

Hitler and Stalin were both evil.

 

[Deadstick]

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One of Stalin's moves. tried to blame the Nazis but this one was on Stalin and the NKDV.

Was it? that explains all the German bullets in the victims.

 

[Deadstick]

Hitler and Stalin were both evil.

But Hitler was by far the more evil otherwise we would have invaded the Soviet Union with Hitler glad to say most Western leaders at that time knew it.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Katyn massacre - Wikipedia

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One of Stalin's moves. tried to blame the Nazis but this one was on Stalin and the NKDV.

Yes, and it's worth remembering that FDR parroted the Soviet line that the Germans carried out the Katyn Massacre, even though he knew it was false. FDR also parroted the Soviet line on the war in China, blaming everything on the Japanese and painting the Chinese as the innocent victims of unprovoked aggression.

Deadstick said:

But Hitler was by far the more evil otherwise we would have invaded the Soviet Union with Hitler glad to say most Western leaders at that time knew it.

Oh, no, no. As bad as Hitler was, Stalin was worse. Stalin killed far more people than Hitler killed. Both men were evil to the core, but Stalin was definitely the worst of the two.

If we had had an anti-communist president, we would indeed have tried to bring down the Soviet Union, but we had FDR, who did everything he could to prop up the Soviet Union.

 

[Deadstick]

Yes, and it's worth remembering that FDR parroted the Soviet line that the Germans carried out the Katyn Massacre, even though he knew it was false. FDR also parroted the Soviet line on the war in China, blaming everything on the Japanese and painting the Chinese as the innocent victims of unprovoked aggression.



Oh, no, no. As bad as Hitler was, Stalin was worse. Stalin killed far more people than Hitler killed. Both men were evil to the core, but Stalin was definitely the worst of the two.

If we had had an anti-communist president, we would indeed have tried to bring down the Soviet Union, but we had FDR, who did everything he could to prop up the Soviet Union.

Try telling six million dead Jews and 26million Russians, Western Countries have killed millions with their Colonialism and Imperialism over the years, about two million Vietnamese died under US Imperialism.

 

[Litwin]

Katyn massacre - Wikipedia

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One of Stalin's moves. tried to blame the Nazis but this one was on Stalin and the NKDV.

I don't remember how it happened but there were a bunch of survivors from that to tell the tale.

It was Stalin removing the officer corps of the Polish military, including both junior and senior officers. It's what despots do, and the targets are usually senior clergy, members of academia, and senior military officers.

It is so sadly ironic to hear of the Nazi's finding this site and saying "Hey, look at all the innocent people Stalin killed."

mikegriffith1​

This story is not over, By the way Who knows what the word 'Katyn´' means?

 

[whitehall]

Why did FDR's foreign intelligence ignore Stalin's atrocities and cozy up to Russia? Was FDR misinformed?

 

[Litwin]

Yes, and it's worth remembering that FDR parroted the Soviet line that the Germans carried out the Katyn Massacre, even though he knew it was false. FDR also parroted the Soviet line on the war in China, blaming everything on the Japanese and painting the Chinese as the innocent victims of unprovoked aggression.



Oh, no, no. As bad as Hitler was, Stalin was worse. Stalin killed far more people than Hitler killed. Both men were evil to the core, but Stalin was definitely the worst of the two.

If we had had an anti-communist president, we would indeed have tried to bring down the Soviet Union, but we had FDR, who did everything he could to prop up the Soviet Union.

what is interesting, stalin´s gang has targeted not only class enemies, something what our commie members dont want to admit
EXECUTE THE POLES: THE GENOCIDE OF POLES IN THE SOVIET UNION, 1937-1938 DOCUMENTS FROM HEADQUARTERS

https://www.jstor.org/stable/27920673

 

[Litwin]

It was Stalin removing the officer corps of the Polish military, including both junior and senior officers. It's what despots do, and the targets are usually senior clergy, members of academia, and senior military officers.

It is so sadly ironic to hear of the Nazi's finding this site and saying "Hey, look at all the innocent people Stalin killed."

Hitler and Stalin were both evil.

Why did FDR's foreign intelligence ignore Stalin's atrocities and cozy up to Russia? Was FDR misinformed?

full film :

KATYŃ (2007) English subtitles KATYN MASSACRE by stalin´s Bolshevik SECRET POLICE #NKVD, APRIL and MAY 1940​

 

[Litwin]

tried to blame the Nazis

 

[Litwin]

Why did FDR's foreign intelligence ignore Stalin's atrocities and cozy up to Russia? Was FDR misinformed?

they didn´t , US elites knew about stalinist crimes against humanity . Communists -traitors -stain´s spies had very strong position in US , in 30-50s they have penetrated literally all US institutes. Watch this video :

 

[Litwin]

Yes, and it's worth remembering that FDR parroted the Soviet line that the Germans carried out the Katyn Massacre, even though he knew it was false. FDR also parroted the Soviet line on the war in China, blaming everything on the Japanese and painting the Chinese as the innocent victims of unprovoked aggression.



Oh, no, no. As bad as Hitler was, Stalin was worse. Stalin killed far more people than Hitler killed. Both men were evil to the core, but Stalin was definitely the worst of the two.

If we had had an anti-communist president, we would indeed have tried to bring down the Soviet Union, but we had FDR, who did everything he could to prop up the Soviet Union.

ps By the way, do you know the name of Stalin's number one executor, who personally killed many, maybe AS MUCH AS 2,000, Poles in Katyn'

 

[Litwin]

I don't remember how it happened but there were a bunch of survivors from that to tell the tale.

IT WAS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE, it took 2 years to "walk" from GULAG back to civilization

 

[mikegriffith1]

Why did FDR's foreign intelligence ignore Stalin's atrocities and cozy up to Russia? Was FDR misinformed?

FDR was pro-Soviet. He saved the Soviet Union from collapse by granting it diplomatic recognition and then by providing massive economic and military aid. Of course, we now know that FDR had several advisers who were Soviet agents or operatives. He berated anti-communist Japan for every real and imagined sin but excused or ignored Soviet brutality and aggression. He also routinely parroted Soviet and Chinese propaganda about Japanese actions in the war in China.

One example: When the Japanese took China’s largest city, Shanghai, the Soviets, the British, the French, FDR, and FDR’s allies in the American press condemned Japan for its supposed “aggression.” However, the Japanese were not the aggressors in that battle. The Japanese did not want to attack Shanghai. The Japanese had been trying to defuse the tense situation in Shanghai when the Nationalists attacked a small Japanese garrison because they thought they could easily overrun the garrison before the Japanese could get reinforcements to the area. But, the 2,000-man garrison fought with unbelievable courage and held off the 30,000-man Chinese army that attacked it just long enough for reinforcements to arrive. However, this incident did not lead to an all-out battle for Shanghai. A compromise was reached, and Shanghai returned to some sense of normalcy.

But, this situation changed when Chiang Kai-Shek, commanding general of the Chinese forces, decided to attack the Japanese section of Shanghai with two elite divisions. The Japanese brought in more reinforcements and an enormous battle ensued, ending with the Nationalist forces being expelled from Shanghai and the Japanese taking control of the city.

Chiang Kai-Shek’s reasons for picking a fight with the Japanese at Shanghai remain a subject of debate. Peter Harmsen:

Chiang may have genuinely thought that by concentrating his best troops in a shock attack on the meager Japanese garrison in Shanghai, he would be able to score a quick, dramatic victory that could rally the nation.

Japan, on the other hand, only entered the battle reluctantly. The army already felt overstretched in the north of China, and for the wrong reasons. Many Japanese generals considered the Soviet Union to be the main threat and the one that most resources had to be directed towards. The Chinese themselves understood this was the case, and on occasion admitted so in public. “Japan had no wish to fight at Shanghai,” Chinese General Zhang Fakui, one of the top field commanders during the struggle for the city, said in a post-war interview. “It should be simple to see that we took the initiative.” (Storm Clouds Over the Pacific, 1931-1941, Casemate Publishers, 2018, Kindle version, loc. 1453)

Yet, as mentioned, FDR and his allies in the press blamed the Japanese and cited their capture of Shanghai as another alleged example of Japanese "aggression."