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[martybegan]

You tell me. When did Trump invite the archivist to come to Mar a Lago and search the property.

It becomes a criminal matter when classified documents are involved.

When did document arguments become a criminal act besides being politicized by Biden's admin?

Trump was authorized to have them, they were created under his admin and classified under his admin.

 

[struth]

You're fooling yourself, hack.

The PRA doesn't give the president the authority to wave a magic wand and turn classified government documents into "personal documents" anymore than it could give the president the authority to declare the sky to be green.

Even if it could, that doesn't permit a former president to lie to the government about responding to a court ordered subpoena.

I agree, the President doesn't need the PRA to make documents classified or unclassified, the Constitution gives him that authority.

 

[PeanutGallery]

They'd have to prove they took the documents knowingly and willingly.

That's a lot easier for Trump given he was actively hiding them from investigators. If he had just turned everything over to the archives when they asked for it shortly after he left office, it would have been nearly impossible to prosecute him.

Considering that classified documents have the classification stamped on the document itself, you can't say that they didn't knowingly and willingly take those documents out from a secure area to somewhere it didn't belong. What was classified material doing at Pence's home in Indiana? What was it doing in Biden's garage in Delaware?

 

[Marener]

When did document arguments become a criminal act besides being politicized by Biden's admin?

Trump was authorized to have them, they were created under his admin and classified under his admin.

When they’re classified documents. It’s criminal when they’re classified documents. It’s especially criminal when Trump obstructs justice and lies to federal agents.

That’s obvious.

 

[martybegan]

When they’re classified documents. It’s criminal when they’re classified documents. It’s especially criminal when Trump obstructs justice and lies to federal agents.

That’s obvious.

Not when they were classified by the person possessing them.

Are you saying the CIA has more power than the sitting President does?

 

[struth]

You tell me. When did Trump invite the archivist to come to Mar a Lago and search the property.

It becomes a criminal matter when classified documents are involved.

Geez, the NARA was working with Trump as far back as May of 2021 https://www.archives.gov/files/foia/category-1.pdf

Records responsive to FOIA requests about President Trump's return of 15 boxes of records from Mar-a-Lago

NARA has received more than 50 FOIA requests seeking records related to the 15 boxes received from Mar-a-Lago. To respond most efficiently to these overlapping requests, NARA is processing all related requests in the same manner: identifying categories of records that are commonly requested and...

www.archives.gov

It only became a "criminal" matter after Trump announced he weas running against Xiden....then Xiden, in an unprecedented fashion decided to weapon the DOJ to go after the man running against him.

It's want we'd expect from demafascist.

 

[Marener]

Considering that classified documents have the classification stamped on the document itself, you can't say that they didn't knowingly and willingly take those documents out from a secure area to somewhere it didn't belong. What was classified material doing at Pence's home in Indiana? What was it doing in Biden's garage in Delaware?

Presidents and vice presidents work with a ton of classified documents in an open setting. It’s easy for classified documents to become mixed in with unclassified documents, making it easy for them to inadvertently be removed.

 

[struth]

When they’re classified documents. It’s criminal when they’re classified documents. It’s especially criminal when Trump obstructs justice and lies to federal agents.

That’s obvious.

Jack Smith was running an illegal investigation, Trump, nor anyone, could obstruct the illegally appointed AG and his illegal investigation.

 

[struth]

Presidents and vice presidents work with a ton of classified documents in an open setting. It’s easy for classified documents to become mixed in with unclassified documents, making it easy for them to inadvertently be removed.

what? No, President and VP, and anyone with top secret clearance does not work with those documetns in an open setting....did Xiden tell you that as his excuse to have them all over his garage after he stole them? hahaha

They work with them in a secured area, often called a SCIF, which Trump had at Mar Largo, and has reestablished there. Xiden didn't have one at his Delaware home, garage, or office at UPenn....nor did Clinton have one were she keep her illegal server.

 

[Marener]

Not when they were classified by the person possessing them.

Are you saying the CIA has more power than the sitting President does?

Trump wasn’t the sitting president and didn’t even have a security clearance let alone a reason to possess them.

But hey, it’s a fine argument to make before a judge and see if they buy it. The problem that you’ll never acknowledge is that Trump obstructed justice during the investigation into the handling of the documents.

 

[martybegan]

Trump wasn’t the sitting president and didn’t even have a security clearance let alone a reason to possess them.

But hey, it’s a fine argument to make before a judge and see if they buy it. The problem that you’ll never acknowledge is that Trump obstructed justice during the investigation into the handling of the documents.

He was president when they were classified.

And you will never admit this was purely a political exercise by the Biden Admin.

Which is was, and obviously, to anyone not an SJW idiot.

 

[Marener]

He was president when they were classified.

And you will never admit this was purely a political exercise by the Biden Admin.

Which is was, and obviously, to anyone not an SJW idiot.

Who gives a fuck if he was president when they were classified?

There’s nothing political about the government wanting to keep classified government documents secure. Why would you suggest that would be their only motivation? We've seen the government go after all kinds of people who are keeping classified documents after they leave government.

 

[martybegan]

Who gives a fuck if he was president when they were classified?

There’s nothing political about the government wanting to keep classified government documents secure. It’s idiotic to suggest that would be the only motivation.

because all power in the executive branch flows through the elected President. He has the authority to see whatever he wants. Or are you saying the CIA has more power?

There is everything political about this. Everyone but you idiots saw it, and with the others it's why you lost the 2024 election.

 

[struth]

Who gives a fuck if he was president when they were classified?

There’s nothing political about the government wanting to keep classified government documents secure. It’s idiotic to suggest that would be the only motivation.

No it's political to try to lock up your political rival....notice Obama didn't criminalize it when Clinton was caught with them, and she wasn't even President, and it was YEARS later after he hiding them was exposed, meanwhile, same with Xiden....magically he was too senile to prosecute for what he was doing as a Senate and VP...which included selling classified material for hundreds of thousands of dollars in a case advance for a book deal.....but at the same time not to senile to run for re-election.

Meanwhile, a former President who is actively working with the National Arch the min he leaves office is criminalized the day he decides to run for re-election.

That's political. That 's demafascsit

 

[Marener]

because all power in the executive branch flows through the elected President. He has the authority to see whatever he wants. Or are you saying the CIA has more power?

There is everything political about this. Everyone but you idiots saw it, and with the others it's why you lost the 2024 election.

I have no idea what you mean by "the CIA ha more power". This has absolutely nothing to do with the authority of a sitting president since Trump was not the sitting president.

The issue was that classified government documents were being kept unsecured in a private residence. That's obviously something the government would want to deal with since it's a national security issue.

 

[martybegan]

I have no idea what you mean by "the CIA ha more power". This has absolutely nothing to do with the authority of a sitting president since Trump was not the sitting president.

The issue was that classified government documents were being kept unsecured in a private residence. That's obviously something the government would want to deal with since it's a national security issue.

he was at the time the documents were classified.

they were secured. please show me where you got the information they were not. And not some opinion piece.

 

[Marener]

he was at the time the documents were classified.

they were secured. please show me where you got the information they were not. And not some opinion piece.

Who cares what he was when the documents were classified? It makes no difference.

How could you consider them to be "secured"? They were in a private residence, not in government custody. That means they're unsecured.

 

[martybegan]

Who cares what he was when the documents were classified? It makes no difference.

How could you consider them to be "secured"? They were in a private residence, not in government custody. That means they're unsecured.

yes, it does. Classified under his authority as President.

government custody is "Secure"?

2.9 billion records, including Social Security numbers, stolen in data hack: What to know

 

[Marener]

yes, it does. Classified under his authority as President.

government custody is "Secure"?

2.9 billion records, including Social Security numbers, stolen in data hack: What to know

Why does it matter if they were classified when he was president?

Yes, for classified documents to be secure they have to be under government custody. Obviously.

 

[martybegan]

Why does it matter if they were classified when he was president?

Yes, for classified documents to be secure they have to be under government custody. Obviously.

It matters because the classification only comes from his powers as elected president.

Ask Hillary about her Email server on that one.