Justice Kentanji Jackson says laws banning sex changes for young children are "sort of the same thing" as banning interracial marriage.

[M14 Shooter]

The left argues we shouldn't punish murderers under 25 too hard because their brains haven't developed yet.
And yet 6 year olds can decide with their parent's "help" to drug themselves?

Liberals argue whatever position they believe benefits them at the moment.
The fact they might contradict themselves 5 minutes later does not matter, as that is a different moment.

 

[martybegan]

Yes, putting up with someone's charade, is part of America. You have no right to not be offended.

I also have no obligation to participate.

 

[Zincwarrior]

That's not what anyone is claiming.

See post #32 for exactly that.

Especially when those fundamental rights are specifically protected by the constitution from infringement.

Thats the question. There is the Bill of Rights, but the 9th Amendment appears almost completely forgotten. If its a fundamental right, then the State cannot unreasonably impugn upon it. Again, I think its going to get Dobbs'd. US citizens no longer have a fundamental right to bodily autonomy.

Ninth Amendment​

Ninth Amendment Explained

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I also have no obligation to participate.

Exactly.

 

[martybegan]

Exactly.

But participation is part of it. Demanding to be called certain pronouns, demanding to use a given changing or dressing room.

 

[Foxfyre]

This is why having an advanced education doesn't necessarily make you smart. This is the kind of clown show that makes the western world look like a big circus. The idea that we even entertain, let alone allow emotionally driven children to be given drugs to change their body's physiology, which can and have caused long term damaging effects, simply because they feel they are different is shear insanity. We don't allow them to smoke or drink alcohol or get tattoos for a reason. They aren't emotionally mature enough to make responsible decisions, but letting them "change genders" and take pharmaceuticals to physically alter their bodies is perfectly fine.

SCOTUS needs to rule against "gender affirming care" and help put an end to these Frankenstein experiments in minors once and for all. Years from now we're going to look back at these treatments the way we view lobotomies today.

Laws forbidding interracial marriage were dumb but at least based on belief that the races should not mix whether out of sincere belief, racist criteria, or humanitarian understanding that 'half-bred' or 'mulatto' or 'hapa' children resulting from such unions can feel like they don't fit in anywhere and indeed could be ostracized. I would imagine few, if any, would agree that interracial marriages should be banned now. For sure interracial marriage in and of itself is not physically and/or unalterably 'dangerous' for either individual.

But the fact is, many if not most children entertaining ideas of transgendering no longer feel that way by the time they become adults. Many as kids are influenced or intrigued by their peers or in this 'woke' culture in education, being different in that way is cool. But mutilating surgeries to transgender are permanent and cannot be reversed and administering dangerous hormones and drugs to minors to implement transgendering can cause permanent damage.

I wonder if there are people who truly are incapable of understanding the difference?

 

[MisterBeale]

The real issue is that by putting this to the state, they are saying the state can ban this for adults as well.

Fundamental rights can be limited somewhat in childhood, but not in adulthood (marriage as an example).

This Tennessee law has absolutely NOTHING to do with the rights of adults.

Bogus staw-manning.



Whether you believe she is doing that, or you are repeating such nonsense.

Tennessee SB0001 | 2023-2024 | 113th General Assembly

Bill Text (2023-03-22) AN ACT to amend Tennessee Code Annotated, Title 28; Title 29; Title 33; Title 34; Title 36; Title 37; Title 39; Title 40; Title 49; Title 56; Title 63; Title 68 and Title 71, relative to medical care of the young. [Effective date(s) 07/01/2023]

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[22lcidw]

Actually you can with parental approval.

The real issue is that by putting this to the state, they are saying the state can ban this for adults as well. She was asking if it were a fundamental right, like marriage. I listened to the oral arguments while working this morning.

If this does not end, the division will get wider. And the Republicans will take more of your votes. Even with the cheating they will control D.C. Find an answer.

 

[Zincwarrior]

But participation is part of it. Demanding to be called certain pronouns, demanding to use a given changing or dressing room.

Then don't. thats not a fundamental right.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Thats the question. There is the Bill of Rights, but the 9th Amendment appears almost completely forgotten.

Well... while the 9th allows for rights not specifically listed in the bill of rights, it provides no protection for them - said protections, if they exist, must be found elsewhere.

I think its going to get Dobbs'd. US citizens no longer have a fundamental right to bodily autonomy.

The right to bodily autonomy, if it ever existed, died long before Dobbs and Roe - if not before, it unquestionably died in Arver v US, 1918.

 

[Zincwarrior]

This Tennessee law has absolutely NOTHING to do with the rights of adults.

Right. IF YOU LISTENED TO THE ARGUMENTS, thats what Tennessee was arguing.

She was posting hypotheticals to support her argument, just as Alito and Thomas were supporting theirs. Kavanaugh appeared more on the fence actually. Sotamayor and she were in favor. I couldn't tell the rest.

 

[martybegan]

Then don't. thats not a fundamental right.

There are repercussions for that. Have you sat through your yearly HR harassment video yet?

 

[M14 Shooter]

There are repercussions for that. Have you sat through your yearly HR harassment video yet?

Damn good thing we don't have an HR department

 

[martybegan]

Damn good thing we don't have an HR department

my 2 hour video is overdue. Plan to watch it while recuperating from dental work tomorrow. Figure that pain will mitigate the bullshit I will have to sit through.

 

[MisterBeale]

Actually you can with parental approval.

This also, is factually untrue. Why do you do this? You are smarter than that.

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H.R.4892 - Uniform Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984​

https://www.congress.gov/bill/98th-congress/house-bill/4892

Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor​

https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-charges/contributing-to-the-delinquency-of-a-minor.html

 

[task0778]

Justice Kentanji Jackson says laws banning sex changes for young children are "sort of the same thing" as banning interracial marriage.​

What an incredibly stupid thing to say, and by a SCOTUS justice too. It calls into question her thinking about so many issues we face today, how biased is she politically and socially? I'll be honest here, I do not like DJT and do not support some of his policies but I voted for him anyway mainly because I did not want another progressive liberal justice on the Supreme Court and I fear that Kamala would have possibly had the chance to appoint 1 or 3 new justices in the next 4 years.

 

[Zincwarrior]

There are repercussions for that. Have you sat through your yearly HR harassment video yet?

You have a right to do something. You do not avoid the permutations. HR is not the US government.

Personally I don't know why they took up the case. Lower Fed courts had already affirmed Tennessee's law. Again personally although I may not like the law I don't see how its not Constitutionally ok. The rights of states to limit minor care is pretty established.

 

[martybegan]

You have a right to do something. You do not avoid the permutations. HR is not the US government.

Personally I don't know why they took up the case. Lower Fed courts had already affirmed Tennessee's law. Again personally although I may not like the law I don't see how its not Constitutionally ok. The rights of states to limit minor care is pretty established.

The HR policies are created by laws passed by government.

Nice dodge attempt there slick.

 

[Zincwarrior]

This also, is factually untrue. Why do you do this? You are smarter than that.

H.R.4892 - Uniform Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984​

https://www.congress.gov/bill/98th-congress/house-bill/4892

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To quote the Terminator: WRONG. Alcohol laws are governed by the states. I am not aware of any state (maybe UTAH) where minors cannot drink with consent of their parents.

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You suddenly desire to make all Catholic parents felons???

 

[Zincwarrior]

The HR policies are created by laws passed by government.

Cite the Fed law.