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Justice Department sues Texas over restrictive abortion law

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No babies have been murdered.
If those 60 million ? had lived, would they be welcomed ? I don't think so, one poster on here called any woman who would consider having an abortion a " tramp ". Be careful what you ask for, if you get it, you actually have to live up to your end of the bargain. I doubt if it would have been enough people to adopt these children, institutionalized children do not fare well. We have a host of new problems dealing with this surplus population.
 

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If those 60 million ? had lived, would they be welcomed ? I don't think so, one poster on here called any woman who would consider having an abortion a " tramp ". Be careful what you ask for, if you get it, you actually have to live up to your end of the bargain. I doubt if it would have been enough people to adopt these children, institutionalized children do not fare well. We have a host of new problems dealing with this surplus population.
Another poster just said it was 70 million. You guys get to need to agree on the numbers before you post them.
 

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On a different thread I indicated that I had always been taught that in order to sue someone in civil court you have to show how you were harmed as well as show that the defendant was the proximate cause of said harm and then ask for money damages to make one whole again.

i then asked unless you're not the father of the child how have one, as a plaintiff been harmed?

The only reply I got back was that if the law provides for statutory damages then you can sue, apparently without having to show how you've been harmed (because you haven't been according to standard case law). My next thought was that the law is clearly unconstitutional however until something is done to rescind it, a lot of harm to women in Texas and elsewhere can occur as it is the law for the present.
Mammon used world wide is the problem. Money says love me, not giving two cents with the two knocked off regarding people. God gifted us with whatever. God wants his children to be the same way with others.. God knows this world is fallen into sin. That is why he will not try to gather all that is unto himself, through a person.
 

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Correct.
Indeed, conservatives have nothing but contempt for the Constitution, its case law, and the rule of law.
And yet, you agree: the TX abortion is constitutional.
Why won't you admit this?
Can't muster the intellectual honesty?
 

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It isn't a child till it's born, at 20 weeks it's a fetus. With the potential to become a child, only the potential.
It is a life form (human being/God's creation), that begins inside of a woman as soon as her egg is fertilized, and excepts the life form process to begin. Once life is detected, then it is life, otherwise to be protected by the host at all cost because it is the miracle of God's creation process. To snuff that life form out for reason's unheard of or for unethical reasons, then it is wrong period. The conscience, if one still has one should tell the person that very thing, but if brainwashed enough the conscience dies, and the lie's take over.
 

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If those 60 million ? had lived, would they be welcomed ? I don't think so, one poster on here called any woman who would consider having an abortion a " tramp ". Be careful what you ask for, if you get it, you actually have to live up to your end of the bargain. I doubt if it would have been enough people to adopt these children, institutionalized children do not fare well. We have a host of new problems dealing with this surplus population.
So just kill them eh ? What a hypocrite you are.
 

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Exactly.
See: Aaron v Cooper (1958).
And yet, you agree: the TX abortion is constitutional.
Why won't you admit this?
Can't muster the intellectual honesty?
Why do you stand on a lie of omission?
 

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This Texas law is aimed at removing the First Amendment from the Constitution. No government at any level may remove an individual's right not only to exercise a constitutional right, but also to freely discuss a topic, associate freely with others, exercise religious liberty. The legal doctrine of standing is a backbone of our legal system. According to abbott and the Texas legislature, I can sit back and sue any damned Texan I want to while sitting back next to the Potomac. The legal doctrine of standing apparently does not exist anymore.
Yet where is the ACLU defending American Liberties when it comes to The Left's censorship of Free Speech?
 

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If that logic stands. Every victim of gun violence has standing against gun manufacturers. All blue state governors should pass equal laws in those states.
Let them. Aborted babies can't fight back, but gun owners can.
 

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Another poster just said it was 70 million. You guys get to need to agree on the numbers before you post them.
My figure of 70 million was a lowball estimate due to chemical abortions are not counted by proponents of abortion. In recent years, chemical abortion is popular because there is little chance of a woman of childbearing years showing hospital evidence that she killed her baby. I am hearing through educated guesstimates that last year 70% of all abortions were chemically induced. Abortion by chemical means is as sneaky as the mass cancellation of Trump votes and transferring millions of illegal votes to Democrat candidates to be used to institute a socialistic republic since socialists do not show any compunctions for fair play for a number of years. And the socialists of this era want to kill off generations of free people so the Democrats can control everything and everyone which smells like getting even with people who beat them but were cheated out of their Congressional seat or Presidential reelection. The deep state operatives need to be identified, tried for treason and quarantined on Mars. :whipg:
 

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And yet, you agree: the TX abortion is constitutional.
Why won't you admit this?
Can't muster the intellectual honesty?

No the TX abortion law can not possibly be legal even by TX law, much less the federal constitution.
It evades the RvWade ruling by allowing individuals to sue those who get or give abortions, instead of being done by government.
But individuals have no standing.
Their rights are not being infringed upon, so there is no legal basis for them to be able to sue.

The TX law is as legal as if a state passed a law saying that anyone could sue a person with more money than they have.
Individual has no legal standing in either case.
 

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My figure of 70 million was a lowball estimate due to chemical abortions are not counted by proponents of abortion. In recent years, chemical abortion is popular because there is little chance of a woman of childbearing years showing hospital evidence that she killed her baby. I am hearing through educated guesstimates that last year 70% of all abortions were chemically induced. Abortion by chemical means is as sneaky as the mass cancellation of Trump votes and transferring millions of illegal votes to Democrat candidates to be used to institute a socialistic republic since socialists do not show any compunctions for fair play for a number of years. And the socialists of this era want to kill off generations of free people so the Democrats can control everything and everyone which smells like getting even with people who beat them but were cheated out of their Congressional seat or Presidential reelection. The deep state operatives need to be identified, tried for treason and quarantined on Mars. :whipg:

And it should be obvious the US has about 3 times the population it can support for any length of time.
And it will only get much worse in 50 years when fossil fuels start to run out.
Humans have a high reproduction rate because we are inherently prey, not predators.
We only became predators in the last 100,000 years.
Therefore, we instead must artificially keep our population growth down.
 

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Exactly.
See: Aaron v Cooper (1958).
And yet, you agree: the TX abortion is constitutional.
Why won't you admit this?
Can't muster the intellectual honesty?
Why do you stand on a lie of omission?
 

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On a different thread I indicated that I had always been taught that in order to sue someone in civil court you have to show how you were harmed as well as show that the defendant was the proximate cause of said harm and then ask for money damages to make one whole again.

i then asked unless you're not the father of the child how have one, as a plaintiff been harmed?

The only reply I got back was that if the law provides for statutory damages then you can sue, apparently without having to show how you've been harmed (because you haven't been according to standard case law). My next thought was that the law is clearly unconstitutional however until something is done to rescind it, a lot of harm to women in Texas and elsewhere can occur as it is the law for the present.
I agree, I'm a Paralegal for the Attorney Generals office in the State of Montana and it is a joke...... this is happening all over the country.
Just saying.
 

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And it should be obvious the US has about 3 times the population it can support for any length of time.
And it will only get much worse in 50 years when fossil fuels start to run out.
Humans have a high reproduction rate because we are inherently prey, not predators.
We only became predators in the last 100,000 years.
Therefore, we instead must artificially keep our population growth down.
Prayers sent up to God will save those who truly seek God's guidance in the name of Jesus Christ his son and my Savior. God will provide his people sustenance, safety, and best of all his blessings. IOW, he will take care his beloved. Hallelujia.
 

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this should be on flying on the new tx flag:

stirrups.jpg
 

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this should be on flying on the new tx flag:

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That is much more true of those whose souls are troubled when the young woman becomes an adult and realizes how selfish it is to take one's own child to be handed over to those who get rich out of killing unborn human beings who lost their right to life, liberty, and the pursuit happiness the day of their dismemberment and remains placed where people poop and are flushed down or worse yet are burned up at the city or county dump with not so much as a prayer for God to receive their deprived little spirits. They are indeed orphans of the most pathetic types.

This is giving me a sick stomach and a headache that I don,t need.
 

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That is much more true of those whose souls are troubled when the young woman becomes an adult and realizes how selfish it is to take one's own child to be handed over to those who get rich out of killing unborn human beings who lost their right to life, liberty, and the pursuit happiness the day of their dismemberment and remains placed where people poop and are flushed down or worse yet are burned up at the city or county dump with not so much as a prayer for God to receive their deprived little spirits. They are indeed orphans of the most pathetic types.

This is giving me a sick stomach and a headache that I don,t need.

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If you don't understand it yet God does not tolerate killing one's own issue. Now that you know that, best wishes on making your personal apology to God. I will give a thumbs up if you humble yourself enough to be sorry for spreading wrongful information to your fellow human beings. Only best wishes.
 

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If you don't understand it yet God does not tolerate killing one's own issue.

that is false. the bible is chock full of killing.

you best get acquainted with numbers 5:11-31

that's a real eye opener for sure.
 

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