why is it up to you to force people to renounce anything at all? why do *you* or *your side* get to make that call after LOSING an election?
isn't that ... fascism? forcing people to think like you OR ELSE??? isn't that what the left accuses OTHERS of doing? strongarming people into their mindset?
yet "just renounce trump and it all be better!!!"
no it won't. it just validates the methods the left is using to get their way and this has nothing to do about trump at this point. not to me and not to many like me. but it has EVERYTHING to do with people demanding to get their way or there will be a foot stomping!
stomp that foot like a baby man. stomp it. trump won. and until this "evidence" proves one thing or another, i'm sure you'll push on with GUILTY w/o a shred of proof. you know the proof the fbi has but has not released yet liberals use it daily against him.
Trump didn't win. he lost by 3 million votes.
Just like the last guy who lost the popular vote gave us Iraq, the Great Recession and Katrina.
So how badly does Trump have to **** things up before you guys (and yes, i include those of you who voted for third parties) admit you made a mistake?
Dear
JoeB131:
you are counting the popular votes under an election run by Electoral votes.
If you want to run the election by popular votes, you would have to
SET UP THE ELECTION under those terms. So the candidates would have
the opportunity to campaign and strategize based on POPULAR votes.
That is a different election system than what was used.
If you want a system that would count both at the same time,
we could have a PREFERENTIAL vote instead of winner-take-all by majority rule.
So THAT WAY, if someone's first choice was Gary Johnson before Trump,
or Trump then Gary Johnson, THAT ISN'T A VOTE FOR HILLARY if one comes in second.
That person's vote still goes to someone OTHER THAN Hillary or Jill Stein, etc.
Another way:
Let each state divide its votes by DISTRICT, so not all the E votes go to one winner,
but they depend on who wins each DISTRICT.
so if STATES are going to throw their E votes to the winning candidate,
why not let DISTRICTS do that.
There are ways to do this JoeB131 but it
HAS TO BE AGREED UPON
BEFORE THE ELECTION IS CONDUCTED UNDER *THOSE* TERMS
Otherwise it's not fair: You can't take the popular votes from NY and CA
"OUT OF CONTEXT WITH THE SYSTEM" by which the election and votes were
conducted and counted. You are changing the meaning of the votes midstream.
Do you understand -- You'd have to change the CONTEXT
first to be based on popular vote IF you are going to count based on THAT factor by itself!
What I suggest is the candidates win BOTH the popular and
the Electoral Vote -- they have to win the people and the states
in a clear majority such as 60-75% or else there is a runoff
(again the runoff can be done by PREFERENTIAL voting
so if no candidates get the Supermajority, then the votes
are taken in preferential order to see who people preferred
had their first choice not won. In the case of this election,
the first round might have had more Gary Johnson's and
Jill Stein votes, if people knew their second choice vote
would get their vote and not the candidate they were voting
against either Trump or Clinton; and then the race would be
between if Trump or Clinton was more people's second choice
instead of ASSUMING if Trump didn't win it would go to Clinton
or if Clinton didn't win it would go to Trump. We could see those numbers instead of guessing)
You may not like my personal idea on this.
But I believe if we mixed the ticket and included candidates/leaders
from mixed parties to fill the positions and cabinets,
we could have more win/win situations and not letting
one party dominate at a time while the others go without equal representation.