Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse.

[kyzr]

What you are arguing is that Trump was so weak, no one paid any attention to anything he said.

From my post #21:
The "riot" was an FBI setup enabled by democrats (Pelosi & Bowser) keeping the National Guard from being there.

As proven in links from my post #26

I prove my assertions.

 

[pknopp]

From my post #21:
The "riot" was an FBI setup enabled by democrats (Pelosi & Bowser) keeping the National Guard from being there.

As proven in links from my post #26

I prove my assertions.

Now you are arguing Trump supporters are gullible (which granted they are).

 

[kyzr]

Should I assume your myopic focus on the matter of the NG troops means you too believe the lie Trump did not participate in trying to overturn the election?

If the NG was there, there would have been no FBI triggered "riot", aka "insurrection".

Who was it on that video who planted the pipe bomb? He was never caught. Why not?

 

[kyzr]

Now you are arguing Trump supporters are gullible (which granted they are).

Read my post again. The take-away should be that the FBI and democrats setup the J6 "riot".

From my post #21:
The "riot" was an FBI setup enabled by democrats (Pelosi & Bowser) keeping the National Guard from being there.

As proven in links from my post #26. I prove my assertions.

 

[Oddball]

“President Trump oversaw a sophisticated seven-part plan to overturn the 2020 election and prevent the transition of presidential power.

1. President Trump engaged in a massive effort to spread false and fraudulent information to the American public claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him.
2. President Trump corruptly planned to replace the Acting Attorney General, so that the Department of Justice would support his fake election claims.
3. President Trump corruptly pressured Vice President Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in violation of the US Constitution and the law.
4. President Trump corruptly pressured state election officials, and state legislators, to change election results.
5. President Trump’s legal team and other Trump associates instructed Republicans in multiple states to create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to Congress and the National Archives.
6. President Trump summoned and assembled a violent mob in Washington and directed them to march on the US Capitol.
7. As the violence was underway, President Trump ignored multiple pleas for assistance and failed to take immediate action to stop the violence and instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/09/politics/jan-6-hearing-cheney-trump-overturn-election-plan/index.html

The plot was not confined to the events of Jan. 6.

 

[Crepitus]

The FBI said that Trump did NOT incite the riot, dumbass.

When did they say that?

 

[pknopp]

Read my post again. The take-away should be that the FBI and democrats setup the J6 "riot".

From my post #21:
The "riot" was an FBI setup enabled by democrats (Pelosi & Bowser) keeping the National Guard from being there.

As proven in links from my post #26. I prove my assertions.

"The Democrats got the gullible Trump supporters to do their bidding"

Run with that if you wish.

 

[Crepitus]

Democrats also still deny that the whole "Russia" thing was a made up scenario to deflect from losing to a loser.

One side really is no better than the other.

Ummm... the Mueller report is filled with examples of the "Russia thing".

 

[Crepitus]

There's really no way of knowing what they even know. We do know that much is kept from them in their separate informational ecosystem, and what they DO know is often distorted by that same ecosystem. So it's entirely possible they're being completely honest in the survey.

And that's the fuckin' problem.

 

[pknopp]

Ummm... the Mueller report is filled with examples of the "Russia thing".

Meme's posted on Facebook. LOL

 

[kyzr]

When did they say that?

google it.

 

[kyzr]

Trump meme

Trump's presidency was a miracle in itself, the biggest upset in US election history. Hillary and the DNC actually colluded with and paid Russians for "dirt" on Trump, aka the "Steele Dossier". Obama used the power of the DOJ, FBI, CIA and other Federal agencies to illegally spy on and setup Trump for failure. FBI operations Crossfire Hurricane and Razor, the Mueller Investigation, Russian Collusion Hoax, the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage and "fake news", Never-Trump Republicans, the Lincoln Project, globalists of every stripe, the entrenched Deep State who all oppose Trump's policies, the planted leakers and whistle-blowers, and the RINOs who'd rather shill for K-Street than work for main street. Then add to all of that the outright hatred shown by the House democrats toward Trump, to the point of "non-crime" Impeachment Articles, twice!!

Then during the 2020 election the high-tech oligarchs (Twitter & Facebook), et.al colluded with the FBI to cover-up the Biden crimes and buy the election; google “zuckerbucks” as an example. Not even investigating why 2020 had about 30m more votes than expected. Trump got 10m more votes in 2020 than in 2016 and lost?? Biden got 81m votes my ass. When Elon Musk bought Twitter the truth came out. Now the Soros DA in NYC is indicting Trump for a non-crime. The Durham Report confirms that the FBI & DOJ are NOT upholding the LAWs of the United States, the US is on the verge of becoming a Fascist state, especially now since Trump was indicted for mishandling “classified” documents and the Biden crimes are being covered up, including cocaine in the WH.

 

[Oddball]

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[Independent thinker]

Most Republicans say Trump didn’t even try to overturn the election​

The Economist and YouGov this week became the latest to publish a head-scratching poll showing Republicans rejecting basic facts about Trump and his legal jeopardy.

The poll asked people whether Trump was “involved in an attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election in Georgia.” He, of course, was. Myriad pieces of evidence make that abundantly clear. We have a literal recording of him asking Georgia’s secretary of state to “find” just enough votes to overcome his deficit, and Trump on the call explicitly cited “flipping” the results in the state.

But to most Republicans, this apparently never happened. Just 18 percent in the YouGov poll said Trump was involved in trying to overturn Georgia’s results, compared to 59 percent who say he wasn’t.
It’s now the second poll to show the vast majority of Republicans saying Trump wasn’t even involved in trying to overturn the election. YouGov asked similar, non-Georgia-specific questions in August. Republicans said just 38-30 percent that there was an attempt to overturn the election. That’s shocking in and of itself. But then it showed only half of that 38 percent said Trump was personally involved.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/26/trump-republicans-polls/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNjk4MjkyODAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNjk5Njc4Nzk5LCJpYXQiOjE2OTgyOTI4MDAsImp0aSI6IjVlNTk2MmIwLTA0MmYtNDM3Yi05NTBlLTY2YjdlZWUwOGFkNSIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9wb2xpdGljcy8yMDIzLzEwLzI2L3RydW1wLXJlcHVibGljYW5zLXBvbGxzLyJ9.s7QY5q6vDNli5bICb-LGIBiXaX_dVYR5nY6Tg4ZYl7Y

If Repubs can deny Trump's involvement in the attempt to overturn the election then their capacity for distorting reality knows no limit. The danger this capacity poses, having millions of people making their perception of reality conform to what they want it to be, can not be overstated.

He never did. Saying the election was stolen is not trying to overturn the election.

 

[HeyNorm]

Republicans excel at rejecting basic facts about everything – not just the fact that Trump engaged in a treasonous effort to overturn the 2020 election.

He didn’t. But Biden did in fact lose 18 of the 19 bellwether counties that have chosen the winner of the presidential elections for decades. And at the same time garnered more votes than Obama and Hillary.

Mmmmmmm

 

[pknopp]

He never did. Saying the election was stolen is not trying to overturn the election.

As president trying to pressure state officials to "find" you the votes you need is something other than that though.

 

[Blisterfinger]

Sustaining the belief RICO Don did not attempt to remain in power goes beyond willful ignorance. I don't like being redundant because doing so tends to make words lose their impact but I can think of no other way to explain this level of denial other than to say it mirrors cult-like behavior.

Looks like it was a stolen election

 

[Independent thinker]

As president trying to pressure state officials to "find" you the votes you need is something other than that though.

Democrats find votes all the time. There is absolutely nothing illegal about Trump asking a secretary of state to find votes. You have absolutely zero proof that Trump asked the secretary of state to do anything illegal. It's all in your minds and can't possibly stand up in court. You can't convict a person of what you thought he was thinking.

 

[pknopp]

Democrats find votes all the time. There is absolutely nothing illegal about Trump asking a secretary of state to find votes. You have absolutely zero proof that Trump asked the secretary of state to do anything illegal. It's all in your minds and can't possibly stand up in court. You can't convict a person of what you thought he was thinking.

We are going to see about that, aren't we?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

That isn't what we're talking about here.

I'm talking about facts you aren't