toobfreak
Tungsten/Glass Member
Through much of this country's history, there has been a balance of thought represented by two independent parties existing fairly within a zone of reasonable ideological differences. Both wanted the same things, just saw two different ways of going about getting it. Both parties wanted a stronger, healthier, freer country.
The Left and the Right disagreed on the means to that end, often using politics to exaggerate what the other side was doing for political gain, but in the end, worked together making fair compromises to get to that end trading turns in how they did so.
Where we started to really see a divergence was heading into the Clinton years where divisive politics really took hold. For whatever reasons, the two parties really started to pull away with the democrats going increasingly further Left while the Republican party mainly held further right since the days of Reagan. But by the end of the Clinton years, while the Right still basically held to the mandate of a constitutional republic, the Left was approaching fanaticism.
Thus going into the GW Bush years and all of 9/11, the democratic party fell into extremes of idealism and divisiveness where destroying and blaming Bush became more the central theme than the war itself we were fighting with radical Islam! And by the time Bush was out, through the terms of Obama, the democrats were no longer even recognizable as the progressive liberal movement they had long held sway to up through the '90's. They had so far left the playing field of conventional ideology, that it was no longer a matter of disagreement, they had become radicalized themselves in a violence of thought to where they took on patterns of hatred, excesses and destructiveness. The Obama Administration practiced a sort of naked totalitarianism where they seemed hellbent on releasing a sort of long pent up frustration over obscure issues like standardizing sexual perversion in everything from our classrooms and schools where they championed the rights of men to shower with little girls to restructuring our military to eliminate commanders who did not agree, while much larger issues of jobs, economy, crime and terrorism took a back seat.
Now this is an over-simplification for the sake of brevity and one could argue many things, but the general pattern since the days of GW Bush has increasingly been more of an intolerance of the Left, a win-at-all-costs as the goal itself, while seeing themselves as having stood still while the Republican Party has moved away toward an extreme! Indeed, because the GOP is mainly made up of more independent and diverse views, they are pretty self-regulating that overall, the party does not tolerate any internal deviation too far to the left or the right. Overall, the party has held pretty steady over the past 45 years as being somewhere between centrist to soft right, generally more or less endorsing a sort of constitutional moderation.
I have tried to illustrate all of this in the chart below:
Today, it no longer seems that both parties want the same thing; while the Republicans still generally champion economic growth and strength, opportunity, and limited government, the goals of the Democrats are hard to discern. During Hillary's campaign, she herself often failed to present a clear picture of exactly why anyone should vote for her!
The trend now is that the Democrats just generally disagree with EVERYTHING the Republicans want to do, even before they do it, it is tried or done! Even if it is the same things they want to do, wanted to do, or is good for the country. Immediately, the Republicans are attacked at every level before they even set out to do anything, often largely due to their obstruction, and are labeled as idiots, traitors, incompetent, embarrassing or even a danger to the nation. And if you support the party, you are labelled and attacked as well.
SO I THOUGHT I WOULD ASK (the following is based on national published and verifiable data):
* With the DOW Jones being up about 15% to new all-time highs since Trump taking office over a rebirth in business confidence, with the fastest 2000 point run ever and the stock market gaining two trillion since Trump got in, what is your complaint there? Would you rather it be lower or do you think Hillary would have taken it even higher?
* Trump has reduced the national debt so far by 100 billion. Just what is wrong with that?
* Trump added 300,000 jobs in his first month. Was that wrong?
* Housing sales are hot! Time on market has been cut in half since 2011. Is that bad?
* Illegal immigration is down by nearly 70%. Where do you disagree this isn't good?
* Then there is healthcare reform in progress, a new, simpler tax code on the horizon, dismantling oppressive regulations stifling business, stepping up national security, rethinking trade deals to more favor the USA, addressing the world's biggest threats and taking steps to better unify nations toward improving NATO funding and concerns over Iran, etc. Where is any of this so bad?
When the Left attacks Trump as being incompetent, how can he be so highly successful and be incompetent? When you say he is a puppet for Russia or a Spy, nothing he has done has benefited or pleasured them! None of the claims or arguments have any PROOF, just allegations.
So when a group of people are so reviled against a leader that has done so much in so short a time that they call for his impeachment with nothing to support it or no chance of success, what goal do you really think you are serving? For the good of the nation? Maybe get a Hillary recount? To get Mike Pence put in? How will any of this serve the nation other than to try to preserve as much of the Obama Agenda as is possible which you know will never happen. So, just who really is the puppets here? Us, Trump or maybe YOU?
Food for thought.
The Left and the Right disagreed on the means to that end, often using politics to exaggerate what the other side was doing for political gain, but in the end, worked together making fair compromises to get to that end trading turns in how they did so.
Where we started to really see a divergence was heading into the Clinton years where divisive politics really took hold. For whatever reasons, the two parties really started to pull away with the democrats going increasingly further Left while the Republican party mainly held further right since the days of Reagan. But by the end of the Clinton years, while the Right still basically held to the mandate of a constitutional republic, the Left was approaching fanaticism.
Thus going into the GW Bush years and all of 9/11, the democratic party fell into extremes of idealism and divisiveness where destroying and blaming Bush became more the central theme than the war itself we were fighting with radical Islam! And by the time Bush was out, through the terms of Obama, the democrats were no longer even recognizable as the progressive liberal movement they had long held sway to up through the '90's. They had so far left the playing field of conventional ideology, that it was no longer a matter of disagreement, they had become radicalized themselves in a violence of thought to where they took on patterns of hatred, excesses and destructiveness. The Obama Administration practiced a sort of naked totalitarianism where they seemed hellbent on releasing a sort of long pent up frustration over obscure issues like standardizing sexual perversion in everything from our classrooms and schools where they championed the rights of men to shower with little girls to restructuring our military to eliminate commanders who did not agree, while much larger issues of jobs, economy, crime and terrorism took a back seat.
Now this is an over-simplification for the sake of brevity and one could argue many things, but the general pattern since the days of GW Bush has increasingly been more of an intolerance of the Left, a win-at-all-costs as the goal itself, while seeing themselves as having stood still while the Republican Party has moved away toward an extreme! Indeed, because the GOP is mainly made up of more independent and diverse views, they are pretty self-regulating that overall, the party does not tolerate any internal deviation too far to the left or the right. Overall, the party has held pretty steady over the past 45 years as being somewhere between centrist to soft right, generally more or less endorsing a sort of constitutional moderation.
I have tried to illustrate all of this in the chart below:
Today, it no longer seems that both parties want the same thing; while the Republicans still generally champion economic growth and strength, opportunity, and limited government, the goals of the Democrats are hard to discern. During Hillary's campaign, she herself often failed to present a clear picture of exactly why anyone should vote for her!
The trend now is that the Democrats just generally disagree with EVERYTHING the Republicans want to do, even before they do it, it is tried or done! Even if it is the same things they want to do, wanted to do, or is good for the country. Immediately, the Republicans are attacked at every level before they even set out to do anything, often largely due to their obstruction, and are labeled as idiots, traitors, incompetent, embarrassing or even a danger to the nation. And if you support the party, you are labelled and attacked as well.
SO I THOUGHT I WOULD ASK (the following is based on national published and verifiable data):
* With the DOW Jones being up about 15% to new all-time highs since Trump taking office over a rebirth in business confidence, with the fastest 2000 point run ever and the stock market gaining two trillion since Trump got in, what is your complaint there? Would you rather it be lower or do you think Hillary would have taken it even higher?
* Trump has reduced the national debt so far by 100 billion. Just what is wrong with that?
* Trump added 300,000 jobs in his first month. Was that wrong?
* Housing sales are hot! Time on market has been cut in half since 2011. Is that bad?
* Illegal immigration is down by nearly 70%. Where do you disagree this isn't good?
* Then there is healthcare reform in progress, a new, simpler tax code on the horizon, dismantling oppressive regulations stifling business, stepping up national security, rethinking trade deals to more favor the USA, addressing the world's biggest threats and taking steps to better unify nations toward improving NATO funding and concerns over Iran, etc. Where is any of this so bad?
When the Left attacks Trump as being incompetent, how can he be so highly successful and be incompetent? When you say he is a puppet for Russia or a Spy, nothing he has done has benefited or pleasured them! None of the claims or arguments have any PROOF, just allegations.
So when a group of people are so reviled against a leader that has done so much in so short a time that they call for his impeachment with nothing to support it or no chance of success, what goal do you really think you are serving? For the good of the nation? Maybe get a Hillary recount? To get Mike Pence put in? How will any of this serve the nation other than to try to preserve as much of the Obama Agenda as is possible which you know will never happen. So, just who really is the puppets here? Us, Trump or maybe YOU?
Food for thought.
