JUST IN: Recovered documents from Joe Biden's personal stash of highly classified White House records is national defense information related to China

[MarathonMike]

They just throw every last post and rumor and assumption against the wall and treat it like Armageddon.

Then, when it turns out to be nothing, there's another 25 for them to choose from. Next.

And it seems like they completely believe every one, every time.

That must be exhausting. What an awful way to go through life.

So tell us Moderate Mac, do u see any bias in the application of "law" pertaining to Biden's classified documents vs Trump's classified documents?

 

[kyzr]

It would if you can prove he knowingly and willingly retained them.
Which is going to be difficult for you.

LOL!! So "intent" works for Hillary and Biden but not for Trump?
Actually, I don't think that the Espionage Act has that excuse.
The only way that Biden could have them is if he stole them from a SCIF.
So he intended to steal them dumbass.

 

[MAGA Macho Man]

So did he show them to any of his donors or friends? Since the story is from twitter or gateway scumnut I doubt there is any truth to it.

It's from Paul Sperry: Senior reporter http://RealClearInvestigations.com; NY Post columnist; longtime Hoover Institution media fellow; ex-DC bureau chief IBD.

When Democrats from the House and Senate Intel committees are leaking against other Democrats, they regularly use Paul Sperry as well as the Daily Mail as conduits.

 

[MAGA Macho Man]

LOL!! So "intent" works for Hillary and Biden but not for Trump?
Actually, I don't think that the Espionage Act has that excuse.
The only way that Biden could have them is if he stole them from a SCIF.
So he intended to steal them dumbass.

Which means it was premeditated.

 

[Mac1958]

So tell us Moderate Mac, do see any bias in the application of "law" pertaining to Biden's classified documents vs Trump's classified documents?

I'm not a moderate, sorry.

No. The two cases are quite different.

Let's review the Trump situation, shall we? In chronological order:

1. Around two years ago, the National Archives tried to verify that Trump had returned any classified documents. This was no big deal, since they knew documents may have accidentally been removed when Trump vacated the White House. It happens.
2. There were many, many communications back and forth. For months. They were told there were no more documents.
3. When they couldn't get Trump to act, the Archives gave up and turned the case over to the Justice Department.
4. The Justice Department contacted him, and once again, there were communications back and forth for months. They were told there were no more documents.
5. The Justice Department finally gave up and served a subpoena for the documents.
6. The Justice Department learned that he had not complied with the subpoena.
7. The Justice Department then went to a judge, and showed probable cause (they were clearly getting ACCURATE LEAKS from TRUMP'S PEOPLE) and got a warrant.
8. Upon executing the warrant, they discovered far more documents than they expected.
9. This is when they began to receive tips, and then testimony, from Trump employees about the hiding and moving of documents.
10. During this time Trump is waving these critical documents around to friends and admitting that he could no longer declassify them.
11. A Grand Jury was empaneled, a full investigation began, and through text messages, emails, actual voice recordings, sworn testimony of Trump employees and Trump attorneys, and attorney's notes, it was concluded that Trump and his employees conspired to lie about the existence of the documents, kept critical documents in bathrooms and ballrooms (no, really) and literally moved boxes of documents around so that they would not be discovered.
12. Trump was indicted, based on direct evidence and sworn testimony received from HIS OWN PEOPLE.

Anyone trying to compare or equate the above facts with what Pence or Biden have done is a blatant liar.

 

[marvin martian]

First they'll say it's fake news, until we see it isn't.

Then they'll say it's "different", until we see it isn't.

Then they'll say Trump did it, too, because they love reminding us that Biden is just like Trump.

Then they'll forget about it and hope you do, too.

Just as I said:

They just throw every last post and rumor and assumption against the wall and treat it like Armageddon.

Then, when it turns out to be nothing, there's another 25 for them to choose from. Next.

And it seems like they completely believe every one, every time.

That must be exhausting. What an awful way to go through life.

 

[marvin martian]

I'm not a moderate, sorry.

No. The two cases are quite different.

Let's review the Trump situation, shall we? In chronological order:

1. Around two years ago, the National Archives tried to verify that Trump had returned any classified documents. This was no big deal, since they knew documents may have accidentally been removed when Trump vacated the White House. It happens.
2. There were many, many communications back and forth. For months. They were told there were no more documents.
3. When they couldn't get Trump to act, the Archives gave up and turned the case over to the Justice Department.
4. The Justice Department contacted him, and once again, there were communications back and forth for months. They were told there were no more documents.
5. The Justice Department finally gave up and served a subpoena for the documents.
6. The Justice Department learned that he had not complied with the subpoena.
7. The Justice Department then went to a judge, and showed probable cause (they were clearly getting ACCURATE LEAKS from TRUMP'S PEOPLE) and got a warrant.
8. Upon executing the warrant, they discovered far more documents than they expected.
9. This is when they began to receive tips, and then testimony, from Trump employees about the hiding and moving of documents.
10. During this time Trump is waving these critical documents around to friends and admitting that he could no longer declassify them.
11. A Grand Jury was empaneled, a full investigation began, and through text messages, emails, actual voice recordings, sworn testimony of Trump employees and Trump attorneys, and attorney's notes, it was concluded that Trump and his employees conspired to lie about the existence of the documents, kept critical documents in bathrooms and ballrooms (no, really) and literally moved boxes of documents around so that they would not be discovered.
12. Trump was indicted, based on direct evidence and sworn testimony received from HIS OWN PEOPLE.

Anyone trying to compare or equate the above facts with what Pence or Biden have done is a blatant liar.

Now do the Biden situation.

 

[Marener]

LOL!! So "intent" works for Hillary and Biden but not for Trump?
Actually, I don't think that the Espionage Act has that excuse.
The only way that Biden could have them is if he stole them from a SCIF.
So he intended to steal them dumbass.

What gave you that idea? The DoJ explained how they will go about proving intent to retain classified documents in Trump’s case.

“The only way…”. Stop right there. You’re speculating and you don’t have enough information to say this with any definitive authority.

 

[iku]

Story is developing right now. Biden had zero authority to possess documents like this as either vice president or senator. This is huge!

I am here for anyone that needs help coping with another disappointment.
So many times. So many disappointments.

 

[MarathonMike]

I'm not a moderate, sorry.

No. The two cases are quite different.

Let's review the Trump situation, shall we? In chronological order:

1. Around two years ago, the National Archives tried to verify that Trump had returned any classified documents. This was no big deal, since they knew documents may have accidentally been removed when Trump vacated the White House. It happens.
2. There were many, many communications back and forth. For months. They were told there were no more documents.
3. When they couldn't get Trump to act, the Archives gave up and turned the case over to the Justice Department.
4. The Justice Department contacted him, and once again, there were communications back and forth for months. They were told there were no more documents.
5. The Justice Department finally gave up and served a subpoena for the documents.
6. The Justice Department learned that he had not complied with the subpoena.
7. The Justice Department then went to a judge, and showed probable cause (they were clearly getting ACCURATE LEAKS from TRUMP'S PEOPLE) and got a warrant.
8. Upon executing the warrant, they discovered far more documents than they expected.
9. This is when they began to receive tips, and then testimony, from Trump employees about the hiding and moving of documents.
10. During this time Trump is waving these critical documents around to friends and admitting that he could no longer declassify them.
11. A Grand Jury was empaneled, a full investigation began, and through text messages, emails, actual voice recordings, sworn testimony of Trump employees and Trump attorneys, and attorney's notes, it was concluded that Trump and his employees conspired to lie about the existence of the documents, kept critical documents in bathrooms and ballrooms (no, really) and literally moved boxes of documents around so that they would not be discovered.
12. Trump was indicted, based on direct evidence and sworn testimony received from HIS OWN PEOPLE.

Anyone trying to compare or equate the above facts with what Pence or Biden have done is a blatant liar.

Whoa!!! Mac admits he is a partisan Democrat! This is a breakthrough!!

 

[Mac1958]

Whoa!!! Mac admits he is a partisan Democrat! This is a breakthrough!!

I'm glad you didn't even try to address my timeline.

Oh, and Where does Mac1958 actually stand on the issues?

You're out of your league.

 

[Batcat]

So does the ESPIONAGE ACT cover Biden's secret national defense documents too?

Joe’s a Democrat. He is untouchable. He can do any damn thing he pleases and get alway with it.

Joe will even tell you, “No one fucks with a Biden.“

Yes, Biden Said 'No One F*cks with a Biden' on 'Hot Mic'

The moment was captured on video while the president and the first lady, Jill, were visiting the state of Florida in the aftermath of Hurricane Ian.

www.snopes.com

 

[kyzr]

What gave you that idea? The DoJ explained how they will go about proving intent to retain classified documents in Trump’s case.
“The only way…”. Stop right there. You’re speculating and you don’t have enough information to say this with any definitive authority.

The only way Biden could have gotten classified documents is to steal them from a SCIF.

 

[kyzr]

Joe’s a Democrat. He is untouchable. He can do any damn thing he pleases and get away with it.
Joe will even tell you, “No one fucks with a Biden.“

No one fucks with a Biden except another Biden...

 

[Marener]

The only way Biden could have gotten classified documents is to steal them from a SCIF.

Says who?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So does the ESPIONAGE ACT cover Biden's secret national defense documents too?

Hopefully your beloved party will act soon

 

[eagle7-31]

Story is developing right now. Biden had zero authority to possess documents like this as either vice president or senator. This is huge!

Biden or most any other Democrat could be tape committing first degree murder and the shit for brains left wingers on this board could care less.

 

[kyzr]

Says who?

other members of congress

Sensitive compartmented information facility - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Biden or most any other Democrat could be tape committing first degree murder and the shit for brains left wingers on this board could care less.

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK"

"It's, like, incredible."

 

[Batcat]

No one fucks with a Biden except another Biden...

Well put.