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How do you suggest we micro manage all the details we have NO CONTROL OVER?Agreed.What is your solution?The numbers are bad, but the Trumpsters want to ignore what's happening with many who survive. Damage to the heart, lungs, kidneys and other other organs. Neurological damage, including to children and young adults. Unfortunately, talk radio purposely avoids that part, so they're probably not aware of it.There are a lot of articles and videos describing the danger, or lack of danger from the Covid 19 virus. I'll admit it can get a little confusing when you consider that such a low percentage of people will have symptoms even if they get it, and an even lower percentage will die from it. Many think it's not even worth worrying about. They think it's nothing more than a political hoax to try to take down Trump. Like I said, those percentages do sound really small.
I find it helpful to chart against something I can relate to easier than such small percentages
We all know that World War 1 was a terrible war that cost lots of American lives. The official number of American deaths was 116,708 for that approximately four and a half year war (July28, 1914 -Nov 11, 1918)
World War 2 was even worse. In the six years between September 1, 1939 till September2, 1945 we lost 405,399 brave American soldiers.
Of course the Civil War was the most bloody and costly in terms of lives lost that the US ever waged. In the four years between April 12, 1861 and April 9, 1865 we lost 618,222 from both sides.
Nobody in their right mind would say those losses were minor, or not worth worrying about.
Lets chart those deaths against the 135,000 lives lost to Covid 19 so far. It's only been about 5 months since our first Covid 19 death, but lets call it 6 months to make the math easier. To make it easier, we'll just take a six month average for all of them.
Seems the six month death toll for Covid 19 is higher than WW1, WW2, and the Civil War. Only an idiot would claim that isn't enough death to worry about..
View attachment 361579
Everyone go bankrupt from staying home?
Stunt our children's mental, social and educational growth by holding them back?
We MUST move forward the best we can while remaining diligent to areas with spikes and protecting the most vulnerable.
We CAN NOT stay locked in our homes.
At the same time, we have to be intelligent and honest about the risks as we manage them, and not allow partisan politics to pollute the conversation. Avoiding important facts like the damage done to the bodies and lives of many survivors is neither intelligent nor honest.
Keep the at risk protected to the best of our abilities and deal with the fallout as best we can.
Scaring the public daily with stats they have no control over serves no purpose. If you protect the weak you've done all you can.
And just spouting raw numbers without actual current context is dishonest as well. The other thing is if COVID is primarily a threat to people already very ill, what percentage of their mortality do we attribute to COVID, and what percentage do we attribute to the underlying condition. A person with terminal emphysema dies 3 months earlier than they would have due to COVID, is that a pure COVID death? A pure Emphysema death, or a combination of the two?
People from a risk group have a higher risk to die - what doesn't mean people, who are not a member of a risk group, do not die on covid-19. Sometimes die also young people, who were always sane in their life. And often people suffer a post-covid-syndrome or much more worse problems after a light or more heavy infection.
How do you suggest we micro manage all the details we have NO CONTROL OVER?Agreed.What is your solution?The numbers are bad, but the Trumpsters want to ignore what's happening with many who survive. Damage to the heart, lungs, kidneys and other other organs. Neurological damage, including to children and young adults. Unfortunately, talk radio purposely avoids that part, so they're probably not aware of it.There are a lot of articles and videos describing the danger, or lack of danger from the Covid 19 virus. I'll admit it can get a little confusing when you consider that such a low percentage of people will have symptoms even if they get it, and an even lower percentage will die from it. Many think it's not even worth worrying about. They think it's nothing more than a political hoax to try to take down Trump. Like I said, those percentages do sound really small.
I find it helpful to chart against something I can relate to easier than such small percentages
We all know that World War 1 was a terrible war that cost lots of American lives. The official number of American deaths was 116,708 for that approximately four and a half year war (July28, 1914 -Nov 11, 1918)
World War 2 was even worse. In the six years between September 1, 1939 till September2, 1945 we lost 405,399 brave American soldiers.
Of course the Civil War was the most bloody and costly in terms of lives lost that the US ever waged. In the four years between April 12, 1861 and April 9, 1865 we lost 618,222 from both sides.
Nobody in their right mind would say those losses were minor, or not worth worrying about.
Lets chart those deaths against the 135,000 lives lost to Covid 19 so far. It's only been about 5 months since our first Covid 19 death, but lets call it 6 months to make the math easier. To make it easier, we'll just take a six month average for all of them.
Seems the six month death toll for Covid 19 is higher than WW1, WW2, and the Civil War. Only an idiot would claim that isn't enough death to worry about..
View attachment 361579
Everyone go bankrupt from staying home?
Stunt our children's mental, social and educational growth by holding them back?
We MUST move forward the best we can while remaining diligent to areas with spikes and protecting the most vulnerable.
We CAN NOT stay locked in our homes.
At the same time, we have to be intelligent and honest about the risks as we manage them, and not allow partisan politics to pollute the conversation. Avoiding important facts like the damage done to the bodies and lives of many survivors is neither intelligent nor honest.
Keep the at risk protected to the best of our abilities and deal with the fallout as best we can.
Scaring the public daily with stats they have no control over serves no purpose. If you protect the weak you've done all you can.
Keeping us informed serves no purpose? Boy is that such a Trumpian statement.
Why is it that every other country is managing to get COVID under control, but Americans have to just deal with it? We have not "done all we can". Not by a long shot.
Testing, contact tracing, quarantine, widespread mask use.How do you suggest we micro manage all the details we have NO CONTROL OVER?Agreed.What is your solution?The numbers are bad, but the Trumpsters want to ignore what's happening with many who survive. Damage to the heart, lungs, kidneys and other other organs. Neurological damage, including to children and young adults. Unfortunately, talk radio purposely avoids that part, so they're probably not aware of it.There are a lot of articles and videos describing the danger, or lack of danger from the Covid 19 virus. I'll admit it can get a little confusing when you consider that such a low percentage of people will have symptoms even if they get it, and an even lower percentage will die from it. Many think it's not even worth worrying about. They think it's nothing more than a political hoax to try to take down Trump. Like I said, those percentages do sound really small.
I find it helpful to chart against something I can relate to easier than such small percentages
We all know that World War 1 was a terrible war that cost lots of American lives. The official number of American deaths was 116,708 for that approximately four and a half year war (July28, 1914 -Nov 11, 1918)
World War 2 was even worse. In the six years between September 1, 1939 till September2, 1945 we lost 405,399 brave American soldiers.
Of course the Civil War was the most bloody and costly in terms of lives lost that the US ever waged. In the four years between April 12, 1861 and April 9, 1865 we lost 618,222 from both sides.
Nobody in their right mind would say those losses were minor, or not worth worrying about.
Lets chart those deaths against the 135,000 lives lost to Covid 19 so far. It's only been about 5 months since our first Covid 19 death, but lets call it 6 months to make the math easier. To make it easier, we'll just take a six month average for all of them.
Seems the six month death toll for Covid 19 is higher than WW1, WW2, and the Civil War. Only an idiot would claim that isn't enough death to worry about..
View attachment 361579
Everyone go bankrupt from staying home?
Stunt our children's mental, social and educational growth by holding them back?
We MUST move forward the best we can while remaining diligent to areas with spikes and protecting the most vulnerable.
We CAN NOT stay locked in our homes.
At the same time, we have to be intelligent and honest about the risks as we manage them, and not allow partisan politics to pollute the conversation. Avoiding important facts like the damage done to the bodies and lives of many survivors is neither intelligent nor honest.
Keep the at risk protected to the best of our abilities and deal with the fallout as best we can.
Scaring the public daily with stats they have no control over serves no purpose. If you protect the weak you've done all you can.
Keeping us informed serves no purpose? Boy is that such a Trumpian statement.
Why is it that every other country is managing to get COVID under control, but Americans have to just deal with it? We have not "done all we can". Not by a long shot.
What method exactly did those other countries use to get COVID "under control"?
Just stop already with the COVID/Flu comparisons.And just spouting raw numbers without actual current context is dishonest as well. The other thing is if COVID is primarily a threat to people already very ill, what percentage of their mortality do we attribute to COVID, and what percentage do we attribute to the underlying condition. A person with terminal emphysema dies 3 months earlier than they would have due to COVID, is that a pure COVID death? A pure Emphysema death, or a combination of the two?
People from a risk group have a higher risk to die - what doesn't mean people, who are not a member of a risk group, do not die on covid-19. Sometimes die also young people, who were always sane in their life. And often people suffer a post-covid-syndrome or much more worse problems after a light or more heavy infection.
But how different is this from any other viral infection, like the flu, that we deal with every year?
The flu is no joke, and some yearly strains have a mortality profile similar to COVID
Testing, contact tracing, quarantine, widespread mask use.How do you suggest we micro manage all the details we have NO CONTROL OVER?Agreed.What is your solution?The numbers are bad, but the Trumpsters want to ignore what's happening with many who survive. Damage to the heart, lungs, kidneys and other other organs. Neurological damage, including to children and young adults. Unfortunately, talk radio purposely avoids that part, so they're probably not aware of it.There are a lot of articles and videos describing the danger, or lack of danger from the Covid 19 virus. I'll admit it can get a little confusing when you consider that such a low percentage of people will have symptoms even if they get it, and an even lower percentage will die from it. Many think it's not even worth worrying about. They think it's nothing more than a political hoax to try to take down Trump. Like I said, those percentages do sound really small.
I find it helpful to chart against something I can relate to easier than such small percentages
We all know that World War 1 was a terrible war that cost lots of American lives. The official number of American deaths was 116,708 for that approximately four and a half year war (July28, 1914 -Nov 11, 1918)
World War 2 was even worse. In the six years between September 1, 1939 till September2, 1945 we lost 405,399 brave American soldiers.
Of course the Civil War was the most bloody and costly in terms of lives lost that the US ever waged. In the four years between April 12, 1861 and April 9, 1865 we lost 618,222 from both sides.
Nobody in their right mind would say those losses were minor, or not worth worrying about.
Lets chart those deaths against the 135,000 lives lost to Covid 19 so far. It's only been about 5 months since our first Covid 19 death, but lets call it 6 months to make the math easier. To make it easier, we'll just take a six month average for all of them.
Seems the six month death toll for Covid 19 is higher than WW1, WW2, and the Civil War. Only an idiot would claim that isn't enough death to worry about..
View attachment 361579
Everyone go bankrupt from staying home?
Stunt our children's mental, social and educational growth by holding them back?
We MUST move forward the best we can while remaining diligent to areas with spikes and protecting the most vulnerable.
We CAN NOT stay locked in our homes.
At the same time, we have to be intelligent and honest about the risks as we manage them, and not allow partisan politics to pollute the conversation. Avoiding important facts like the damage done to the bodies and lives of many survivors is neither intelligent nor honest.
Keep the at risk protected to the best of our abilities and deal with the fallout as best we can.
Scaring the public daily with stats they have no control over serves no purpose. If you protect the weak you've done all you can.
Keeping us informed serves no purpose? Boy is that such a Trumpian statement.
Why is it that every other country is managing to get COVID under control, but Americans have to just deal with it? We have not "done all we can". Not by a long shot.
What method exactly did those other countries use to get COVID "under control"?
What they didn't do was have their nation's leader pretending the virus doesn't exist as the numbers of dead climb higher and higher.
Just stop already with the COVID/Flu comparisons.And just spouting raw numbers without actual current context is dishonest as well. The other thing is if COVID is primarily a threat to people already very ill, what percentage of their mortality do we attribute to COVID, and what percentage do we attribute to the underlying condition. A person with terminal emphysema dies 3 months earlier than they would have due to COVID, is that a pure COVID death? A pure Emphysema death, or a combination of the two?
People from a risk group have a higher risk to die - what doesn't mean people, who are not a member of a risk group, do not die on covid-19. Sometimes die also young people, who were always sane in their life. And often people suffer a post-covid-syndrome or much more worse problems after a light or more heavy infection.
But how different is this from any other viral infection, like the flu, that we deal with every year?
The flu is no joke, and some yearly strains have a mortality profile similar to COVID
How COVID-19 is different and worse than the flu
I didn't say he said it. I said he's behaving as though it doesn't exist. You know what else other countries didn't do while COVID tore through their nations? They didn't hold packed political rallies with no masks or social distancing.Testing, contact tracing, quarantine, widespread mask use.How do you suggest we micro manage all the details we have NO CONTROL OVER?Agreed.What is your solution?The numbers are bad, but the Trumpsters want to ignore what's happening with many who survive. Damage to the heart, lungs, kidneys and other other organs. Neurological damage, including to children and young adults. Unfortunately, talk radio purposely avoids that part, so they're probably not aware of it.There are a lot of articles and videos describing the danger, or lack of danger from the Covid 19 virus. I'll admit it can get a little confusing when you consider that such a low percentage of people will have symptoms even if they get it, and an even lower percentage will die from it. Many think it's not even worth worrying about. They think it's nothing more than a political hoax to try to take down Trump. Like I said, those percentages do sound really small.
I find it helpful to chart against something I can relate to easier than such small percentages
We all know that World War 1 was a terrible war that cost lots of American lives. The official number of American deaths was 116,708 for that approximately four and a half year war (July28, 1914 -Nov 11, 1918)
World War 2 was even worse. In the six years between September 1, 1939 till September2, 1945 we lost 405,399 brave American soldiers.
Of course the Civil War was the most bloody and costly in terms of lives lost that the US ever waged. In the four years between April 12, 1861 and April 9, 1865 we lost 618,222 from both sides.
Nobody in their right mind would say those losses were minor, or not worth worrying about.
Lets chart those deaths against the 135,000 lives lost to Covid 19 so far. It's only been about 5 months since our first Covid 19 death, but lets call it 6 months to make the math easier. To make it easier, we'll just take a six month average for all of them.
Seems the six month death toll for Covid 19 is higher than WW1, WW2, and the Civil War. Only an idiot would claim that isn't enough death to worry about..
View attachment 361579
Everyone go bankrupt from staying home?
Stunt our children's mental, social and educational growth by holding them back?
We MUST move forward the best we can while remaining diligent to areas with spikes and protecting the most vulnerable.
We CAN NOT stay locked in our homes.
At the same time, we have to be intelligent and honest about the risks as we manage them, and not allow partisan politics to pollute the conversation. Avoiding important facts like the damage done to the bodies and lives of many survivors is neither intelligent nor honest.
Keep the at risk protected to the best of our abilities and deal with the fallout as best we can.
Scaring the public daily with stats they have no control over serves no purpose. If you protect the weak you've done all you can.
Keeping us informed serves no purpose? Boy is that such a Trumpian statement.
Why is it that every other country is managing to get COVID under control, but Americans have to just deal with it? We have not "done all we can". Not by a long shot.
What method exactly did those other countries use to get COVID "under control"?
What they didn't do was have their nation's leader pretending the virus doesn't exist as the numbers of dead climb higher and higher.
Show me exactly where Trump said the Virus didn't exist.
Testy, testy. Stop with the comparison because it is comparing oranges to poison apples.Just stop already with the COVID/Flu comparisons.And just spouting raw numbers without actual current context is dishonest as well. The other thing is if COVID is primarily a threat to people already very ill, what percentage of their mortality do we attribute to COVID, and what percentage do we attribute to the underlying condition. A person with terminal emphysema dies 3 months earlier than they would have due to COVID, is that a pure COVID death? A pure Emphysema death, or a combination of the two?
People from a risk group have a higher risk to die - what doesn't mean people, who are not a member of a risk group, do not die on covid-19. Sometimes die also young people, who were always sane in their life. And often people suffer a post-covid-syndrome or much more worse problems after a light or more heavy infection.
But how different is this from any other viral infection, like the flu, that we deal with every year?
The flu is no joke, and some yearly strains have a mortality profile similar to COVID
How COVID-19 is different and worse than the flu
why? Because it kills your narrative you dried up old twat?
[/QUOTE]I'm talking about American deaths, dumb ass. Who knows what you might be talking abot.Okay you moronic liberal fake news hack...WW2 deaths 60 million. WW1 deaths 40 million. Spanish Flu deaths 20-50 million with 500 million infected. Covid deaths about 1/10th of 1 million. Now STFU.
You should recheck your numbers dumb ass.
Are you a moron? Oh waitYes world wide covid deaths about 1/2 million proving your OP is still 99.9% stupid.
www.statista.com
www.usmessageboard.com
I didn't say he said it. I said he's behaving as though it doesn't exist. You know what else other countries didn't do while COVID tore through their nations? They didn't hold packed political rallies with no masks or social distancing.Testing, contact tracing, quarantine, widespread mask use.How do you suggest we micro manage all the details we have NO CONTROL OVER?Agreed.What is your solution?The numbers are bad, but the Trumpsters want to ignore what's happening with many who survive. Damage to the heart, lungs, kidneys and other other organs. Neurological damage, including to children and young adults. Unfortunately, talk radio purposely avoids that part, so they're probably not aware of it.There are a lot of articles and videos describing the danger, or lack of danger from the Covid 19 virus. I'll admit it can get a little confusing when you consider that such a low percentage of people will have symptoms even if they get it, and an even lower percentage will die from it. Many think it's not even worth worrying about. They think it's nothing more than a political hoax to try to take down Trump. Like I said, those percentages do sound really small.
I find it helpful to chart against something I can relate to easier than such small percentages
We all know that World War 1 was a terrible war that cost lots of American lives. The official number of American deaths was 116,708 for that approximately four and a half year war (July28, 1914 -Nov 11, 1918)
World War 2 was even worse. In the six years between September 1, 1939 till September2, 1945 we lost 405,399 brave American soldiers.
Of course the Civil War was the most bloody and costly in terms of lives lost that the US ever waged. In the four years between April 12, 1861 and April 9, 1865 we lost 618,222 from both sides.
Nobody in their right mind would say those losses were minor, or not worth worrying about.
Lets chart those deaths against the 135,000 lives lost to Covid 19 so far. It's only been about 5 months since our first Covid 19 death, but lets call it 6 months to make the math easier. To make it easier, we'll just take a six month average for all of them.
Seems the six month death toll for Covid 19 is higher than WW1, WW2, and the Civil War. Only an idiot would claim that isn't enough death to worry about..
View attachment 361579
Everyone go bankrupt from staying home?
Stunt our children's mental, social and educational growth by holding them back?
We MUST move forward the best we can while remaining diligent to areas with spikes and protecting the most vulnerable.
We CAN NOT stay locked in our homes.
At the same time, we have to be intelligent and honest about the risks as we manage them, and not allow partisan politics to pollute the conversation. Avoiding important facts like the damage done to the bodies and lives of many survivors is neither intelligent nor honest.
Keep the at risk protected to the best of our abilities and deal with the fallout as best we can.
Scaring the public daily with stats they have no control over serves no purpose. If you protect the weak you've done all you can.
Keeping us informed serves no purpose? Boy is that such a Trumpian statement.
Why is it that every other country is managing to get COVID under control, but Americans have to just deal with it? We have not "done all we can". Not by a long shot.
What method exactly did those other countries use to get COVID "under control"?
What they didn't do was have their nation's leader pretending the virus doesn't exist as the numbers of dead climb higher and higher.
Show me exactly where Trump said the Virus didn't exist.
Your numbers indicate a 4.2% death rate, much higher than than the less than 1% touted by many in the Trump camp. Thanks for at least that level of honesty. I wish the president would do the same.A little perspective.
U.S Covid cases 3,219,955
U.S. Covid deaths 135,808
U.S. recovered from Covid 1,426,428
U.S. estimated population 331,002, 651.
Testy, testy. Stop with the comparison because it is comparing oranges to poison apples.Just stop already with the COVID/Flu comparisons.And just spouting raw numbers without actual current context is dishonest as well. The other thing is if COVID is primarily a threat to people already very ill, what percentage of their mortality do we attribute to COVID, and what percentage do we attribute to the underlying condition. A person with terminal emphysema dies 3 months earlier than they would have due to COVID, is that a pure COVID death? A pure Emphysema death, or a combination of the two?
People from a risk group have a higher risk to die - what doesn't mean people, who are not a member of a risk group, do not die on covid-19. Sometimes die also young people, who were always sane in their life. And often people suffer a post-covid-syndrome or much more worse problems after a light or more heavy infection.
But how different is this from any other viral infection, like the flu, that we deal with every year?
The flu is no joke, and some yearly strains have a mortality profile similar to COVID
How COVID-19 is different and worse than the flu
why? Because it kills your narrative you dried up old twat?
www.statista.com
Your numbers indicate a 4.2% death rate, much higher than than the less than 1% touted by many in the Trump camp. Thanks for at least that level of honesty. I wish the president would do the same.A little perspective.
U.S Covid cases 3,219,955
U.S. Covid deaths 135,808
U.S. recovered from Covid 1,426,428
U.S. estimated population 331,002, 651.
in.dental-tribune.com
Your numbers indicate a 4.2% death rate, much higher than than the less than 1% touted by many in the Trump camp. Thanks for at least that level of honesty. I wish the president would do the same.A little perspective.
U.S Covid cases 3,219,955
U.S. Covid deaths 135,808
U.S. recovered from Covid 1,426,428
U.S. estimated population 331,002, 651.
Your numbers indicate a 4.2% death rate, much higher than than the less than 1% touted by many in the Trump camp. Thanks for at least that level of honesty. I wish the president would do the same.A little perspective.
U.S Covid cases 3,219,955
U.S. Covid deaths 135,808
U.S. recovered from Covid 1,426,428
U.S. estimated population 331,002, 651..New estimate by CDC reduces COVID-19 death rate to just 0.26% (IFR) from WHO’s 3.4% (CFR)
The new CDC estimates for the severity, complications and deaths of COVID-19 bring down the numbers much lower making the overall scenario very optimistic. There is an ever-growing confusion between the two terms used for the death (fatality) rate. Read the addendum to understand the difference...
The new estimates of fatality rate released by the CDC are as follows for different age groups:
0-49 years old: 0.05%
50-64 years old: 0.2%
65+ years old: 1.3%
Overall ages: 0.4%
The CDC has also cautioned that the numbers are likely to change as new data arrives. But, if you consider how we have gone from 3.4 % to 2.0 % to now 0.26 %, it seems more likely that the number might get even lower as we get more data.
MORE FEAR MONGERING........CDC and WHO weren't even close.
There are a lot of articles and videos describing the danger, or lack of danger from the Covid 19 virus. I'll admit it can get a little confusing when you consider that such a low percentage of people will have symptoms even if they get it, and an even lower percentage will die from it. Many think it's not even worth worrying about. They think it's nothing more than a political hoax to try to take down Trump. Like I said, those percentages do sound really small.
I find it helpful to chart against something I can relate to easier than such small percentages
We all know that World War 1 was a terrible war that cost lots of American lives. The official number of American deaths was 116,708 for that approximately four and a half year war (July28, 1914 -Nov 11, 1918)
World War 2 was even worse. In the six years between September 1, 1939 till September2, 1945 we lost 405,399 brave American soldiers.
Of course the Civil War was the most bloody and costly in terms of lives lost that the US ever waged. In the four years between April 12, 1861 and April 9, 1865 we lost 618,222 from both sides.
Nobody in their right mind would say those losses were minor, or not worth worrying about.
Lets chart those deaths against the 135,000 lives lost to Covid 19 so far. It's only been about 5 months since our first Covid 19 death, but lets call it 6 months to make the math easier. To make it easier, we'll just take a six month average for all of them.
Seems the six month death toll for Covid 19 is higher than WW1, WW2, and the Civil War. Only an idiot would claim that isn't enough death to worry about..
View attachment 361579
There are a lot of articles and videos describing the danger, or lack of danger from the Covid 19 virus. I'll admit it can get a little confusing when you consider that such a low percentage of people will have symptoms even if they get it, and an even lower percentage will die from it. Many think it's not even worth worrying about. They think it's nothing more than a political hoax to try to take down Trump. Like I said, those percentages do sound really small.
I find it helpful to chart against something I can relate to easier than such small percentages
We all know that World War 1 was a terrible war that cost lots of American lives. The official number of American deaths was 116,708 for that approximately four and a half year war (July28, 1914 -Nov 11, 1918)
World War 2 was even worse. In the six years between September 1, 1939 till September2, 1945 we lost 405,399 brave American soldiers.
Of course the Civil War was the most bloody and costly in terms of lives lost that the US ever waged. In the four years between April 12, 1861 and April 9, 1865 we lost 618,222 from both sides.
Nobody in their right mind would say those losses were minor, or not worth worrying about.
Lets chart those deaths against the 135,000 lives lost to Covid 19 so far. It's only been about 5 months since our first Covid 19 death, but lets call it 6 months to make the math easier. To make it easier, we'll just take a six month average for all of them.
Seems the six month death toll for Covid 19 is higher than WW1, WW2, and the Civil War. Only an idiot would claim that isn't enough death to worry about..
View attachment 361579
Aaaaaaaand the military deaths were far higher, percentage wise, than the covid deaths. Especially when you figure in the tooth to tale ratio of an army as being 8 to 1.
That means for every trigger puller, there are 8 behind him.
Two stacks of bodies the same height are still two stacks of bodies the same height, no matter how you try to use percentages to make one stack mean more than the other.
