Jussie Smollett’s conviction tossed by Illinois Supreme Court on technicality

[BlackSand]

Actually, you are kind of a nut...

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Well, I cannot argue with that ...

I damn sure don't do what asshats like you think is necessary ...
I am not bound to your silly way of thinking ...
Nor am I limited to what other people think they can allow me to do.

If that makes me crazy ... I damn sure don't mind ...
And I am not complaining about it ...

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[JoeB131]

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Well, I cannot argue with that ...

I damn sure don't do what asshats like you think is necessary ...
I am not bound to your silly way of thinking ...
Nor am I limited to what other people think they can allow me to do.

If that makes me crazy ... I damn sure don't mind ...
And I am not complaining about it ...

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Ooookay...

18% of Americans suffer from some form of mental illness...

And most of them seem to show up on USMB.

 

[BlackSand]

Ooookay...

18% of Americans suffer from some form of mental illness...

And most of them seem to show up on USMB.

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Dude ... I don't need you to tell me about the shortcomings of some people here at USMB.
And rest assured I will never suggest your dysfunction is a product of mental illness ...

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[Superbadbrutha]

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I don't tell Jewish people to get over the Holocaust ...
The same way I didn't tell you to get over your shit.

That's exactly what you told me.

I simply said that if what you are doing isn't working ...
Then you don't have to keep trying the same crap to fix it.

Talk about lost in the sauce.

When you are ready to embrace others ... They may surprise you.
If you want to hate them ... Then I really don't give a fuck what you think.

Sucks to be you ...
And at some point you are going to figure out some of that is your fault ...

Evidently you give something or your dumbass wouldn't have said shit to begin with. No racism and discrimination in America isn't my fault.

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[BlackSand]

That's exactly what you told me.

Talk about lost in the sauce.

Evidently you give something or your dumbass wouldn't have said shit to begin with. No racism and discrimination in America isn't my fault.

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No ... I told you that if you want to live in the past ... Get a horse Kemosabe.
That's not telling you to quit ... It's telling you to go ahead and saddle up bitch ...

I have no doubt that just about anything I say will be lost on you.

And I said I don't give a fuck what you think ... Not that I won't tell you what I think.
Plus ... I didn't say anything to begin with ... You asked me what I meant and started this discussion.

I never said racism and discrimination in America is your fault ...
Just that the reason you encounter some of the shit you do is your fault.

Don't argue with me ...
You fucked that response all up ... Top to bottom ...

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[JoeB131]

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Dude ... I don't need you to tell me about the shortcomings of some people here at USMB.
And rest assured I will never suggest your dysfunction is a product of mental illness ...

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I don't have a dysfunction, unlike your delusions of grandeur.

 

[martybegan]

Nothing at all wrong with that.

I think eating broccoli is icky. I don't try to ban broccoli for everyone. I realize my dislike for broccoli is my own issue.

I don't pretend a magic sky pixie demands that I try to eradicate broccoli and scream Bible verses at someone who just came in to shop.

Now, answer the question, do you think that someone who simply hates gays or Mormons or Blacks should have a right to refuse them service?

Yet schools don't try to say broccoli should be eaten by everyone, which is what the whole Pride thing is about. It's not tolerance, it's forced acceptance/celebration.

Why do you think people should be forced to participate in a ceremony they don't believe in simply because you hate them?

 

[JoeB131]

Yet schools don't try to say broccoli should be eaten by everyone, which is what the whole Pride thing is about. It's not tolerance, it's forced acceptance/celebration.

Why do you think people should be forced to participate in a ceremony they don't believe in simply because you hate them?

Again, your metaphors are confused. No one is making you have the gay sex.

Also, no one is asking anyone to participate in a ceremony.

As someone who recently got married, I can tell you that the only "Participation" the baker had was delivering a cake.

 

[martybegan]

Again, your metaphors are confused. No one is making you have the gay sex.

Also, no one is asking anyone to participate in a ceremony.

As someone who recently got married, I can tell you that the only "Participation" the baker had was delivering a cake.

it's about condoning the act, which some people simply don't want to do because of their beliefs. And despite your hatred of religion, that is something they have the right to do, and they don't lose that right simply because they want to sell something.

They asked those bakers and photographers.

You are arguing semantics, they are part of the ceremony even if they just delivered the product, which was contracted specifically for the ceremony.

 

[JoeB131]

it's about condoning the act, which some people simply don't want to do because of their beliefs. And despite your hatred of religion, that is something they have the right to do, and they don't lose that right simply because they want to sell something.

By your logic, the gun store that sold Joker Holmes that AR-15 and that 100 round clip "condoned" his mass shooting at the Aurora Theater.

You are arguing semantics, they are part of the ceremony even if they just delivered the product, which was contracted specifically for the ceremony.

Except the cake doesn't go to the "Ceremony", it goes to the reception afterwards.

 

[martybegan]

By your logic, the gun store that sold Joker Holmes that AR-15 and that 100 round clip "condoned" his mass shooting at the Aurora Theater.


Except the cake doesn't go to the "Ceremony", it goes to the reception afterwards.

Did Holmes buy the gun and tell the person selling it what he was going to do with it?

If not, then your attempted whatboutism fails on the merits.

Same shit, different day.

It's part of the overall act, which the bakers in question don't believe is real.

 

[JoeB131]

Did Holmes buy the gun and tell the person selling it what he was going to do with it?

The guy went in with freakish orange hair and frankly, you don't order a weapon like that unless you are looking to cause trouble.

It's part of the overall act, which the bakers in question don't believe is real.

It's not part of the "Ceremony" and the cake has no religious significance.

Where are wedding cakes mentioned in the Bible? In fact, Wedding Cakes are a pagan ROMAN tradition, except the Romans made the cakes in the shapes of penises and vaginas to encourage fertility.

Maybe the bakers should go tack to that.

 

[martybegan]

The guy went in with freakish orange hair and frankly, you don't order a weapon like that unless you are looking to cause trouble.



It's not part of the "Ceremony" and the cake has no religious significance.

Where are wedding cakes mentioned in the Bible? In fact, Wedding Cakes are a pagan ROMAN tradition, except the Romans made the cakes in the shapes of penises and vaginas to encourage fertility.

Maybe the bakers should go tack to that.

He had his hair like that when he bought the gun?

And your side has the skittle haired people now.

That's your view, that's not the view of the service providers, and despite your attempts contrary, they still have the right to free exercise.

 

[JoeB131]

He had his hair like that when he bought the gun?

Sure, why not? Of course, if the gun

That's your view, that's not the view of the service providers, and despite your attempts contrary, they still have the right to free exercise.

Sure they do. They can grovel in front of their imaginary sky friend all day on Sunday.

But when they go to work, they got to follow the same rules all us non-religious business owners have to.

 

[martybegan]

Sure, why not? Of course, if the gun


Sure they do. They can grovel in front of their imaginary sky friend all day on Sunday.

But when they go to work, they got to follow the same rules all us non-religious business owners have to.

So you don't actually know, you made it up.

Your hostility towards religion is your blindspot. It's kind of pathetic.

Again, where does it state in the constitution you lose your first amendment rights just because you want to sell something?

 

[JoeB131]

So you don't actually know, you made it up.

I know that everyone in Holmes' life knew he was nuts, but he was able to buy a gun anyway.

Your hostility towards religion is your blindspot. It's kind of pathetic.

NO, an aversion to superstitious idiots is healthy.

Again, where does it state in the constitution you lose your first amendment rights just because you want to sell something?

No one is losing their First Amendment rights if the law is perfectly acceptable in a non-religious context.

You keep avoiding the question. Should an Atheist baker have a right to refuse service to gays because he thinks the butt-sex is icky?

If not, then why should a Christian Baker have that right?

 

[martybegan]

I know that everyone in Holmes' life knew he was nuts, but he was able to buy a gun anyway.



NO, an aversion to superstitious idiots is healthy.



No one is losing their First Amendment rights if the law is perfectly acceptable in a non-religious context.

You keep avoiding the question. Should an Atheist baker have a right to refuse service to gays because he thinks the butt-sex is icky?

If not, then why should a Christian Baker have that right?

Nice walk back attempt, you pathetic story teller.

There's that narcissistic miserable old psychopath showing.

They aren't asking for that, they just don't want to provide one contracted service for a ceremony they don't believe in.

None of them ever denied non custom point of sale items, which is what PA laws were about in the first place.

 

[marvin martian]

Okay, if you say so. Sounds to me like you just like thumbing your nose, thinking you are making a difference.

Here's why I try to keep my customers happy... so I get more business from them. So they recommend me to their friends.

I wonder how they would feel if they knew you think half the population of our country is "garbage", "Nazis", and "deplorable"?

 

[JoeB131]

I wonder how they would feel if they knew you think half the population of our country is "garbage", "Nazis", and "deplorable"?

You guys aren't half the population. Nowhere near.

In a year, half of you will be denying you ever supported Trump.

 

[JoeB131]

Nice walk back attempt, you pathetic story teller.

No walkback at all. Everyone in Holmes' life knew he was nuts. His mother was trying to get him committed. The school he was attending was trying to throw him out. The Gun Store sold him an AR-15 and a 100 round magazine.

There's that narcissistic miserable old psychopath showing.

Naw, man, the psychopaths are the people who did THIS.

They aren't asking for that, they just don't want to provide one contracted service for a ceremony they don't believe in.

None of them ever denied non custom point of sale items, which is what PA laws were about in the first place.

Except it isn't for a ceremony, it's for a party afterwards.