Judge says Trump illegally deployed National Guard to help with LA protests, must return control

[drudge X]

Judge has no standing

Newsom was celebrating too soon.

Appeals court temporarily blocks judge's ruling to return control of National Guard to California

The court said it would hold a hearing on the matter on June 17.

www.pbs.org

 

[Cougarbear]

Wrong.
If they had been in front of judges who issued deportation orders, then they never would have had to have been arrested, since they would already have been in custody.
They would have been able to present their side.
And that obvious is not the case.
There have been many mistakes made that would then not have happened.
Like Kilmar, who had a judicial protection order in 2019, and was illegal to deport.
It is obviously illegal to arrest or deport those under DACA, Dream, have anchor babies, etc.
In fact, just having a citizen spouse is enough to legally prevent deportation.

There is NO evidence anyone crossed the border illegally.
They can cross anywhere they want if they are applying for asylum, and if they crossed on a tourist visa that expired, that is not a crime. It is just a civil regulatory violation.
And NO, missing a court date can get you arrested, but is NOT a crime.
You could be in the hospital or just forgot.
That is not criminal since it does not abuse the rights of anyone else.
And a crimes gets its authority only from those it protects from abuse.

The law gives states authority over the National Guard until a rebellion, insurrection, or civil war allows the president to request the governor to allocate the NG to him.
So the judge is correct and does not have to write or change any law.

You are so clueless! Keep it up. Californication will soon be back to California great again.

 

[scruffy]

It is just a matter of following the laws and organization of states National Guard. As for LA burning, all I saw was some Waymo Cars.

The protesters are targeting Google?

 

[scruffy]

Wrong.
What the Constitution demands and the Founders wanted was for the judiciary to watch over EVERYTHING.
It is ONLY the judiciary that differentiates and protects us from being a monarchy.

It is the judiciary that determines when executive actions or congressional legislation violate rights or the Constitution.
The judiciary is what makes this a republic instead of a monarchy.

You get dumber by the minute.

 

[scruffy]

ICE does not need a warrant unless entering private property.

ICE had warrants.

Rigby is just ignorant.

 

[gipper]

You don't seem to understand the way the American government works. Three separate but equal branches and the states have their own powers as well.

Maybe someone should tell that to Trump.

 

[TimFitz]

Democrats mad the riots aren't worse.

Democrats = traitors

Actually, it’s Trump and his sheep that are disappointed that they didn’t get the riots they wanted.
Trump and his stooges, Hegseth and Bondi, along with most of Trumpster media tried to pretend that they did get the riots they wanted.

But it didn’t happen.
As the reality consistantly refused to conform to the apocalyptic fantasies being hawked by the right wing noise machine.

 

[TimFitz]

ICE had warrants.

Rigby is just ignorant.

No, they did not.

This is the second time I’ve seen a Trumpster make this obviously false claim.

Nobody issues a warrant to randomly roust people on a public street.

 

[Crepitus]

Aaaaaand...

Well that was rather stupid of them.

 

[Crepitus]

Judge has no standing

YOu don't understand what the word means. The plaintiff must have standing, not the judge.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Well that was rather stupid of them.

(chuckles)

You who presume to know the law better, think it was "stupid of them?"

Let me ask:

Under what premise do you think it was "stupid of them?"

 

[Crepitus]

Maybe someone should tell that to Trump.

Definitely.

 

[TemplarKormac]

YOu don't understand what the word means. The plaintiff must have standing, not the judge.

Judges have standing in their jurisdiction. Plaintiffs have standing when or if an action of the law affects them.

 

[White 6]

Too bad he has no authority in this matter.

The law is very clear. The President has authority to quell public disturbances.

No judge can take it away from him.

Not clear at all, on taking control of state National Guards for Federal Domestic law enforcement. We will see, on the 17th or after. If they decide not to support the takeover, I assume a Trump administration would make an appeal to SCOTUS. I have never looked at 9th Circuit, as being particularly conservative or right wing dominated. This is the same court that upheld the lower Federal Judge's decision, that trump could not take over the power of the purse strings from Congress, when Trump stole the money from military base schools, fixing military base sewage being dumped into streams without processing, new processing for water supply on Marine base, and making the repairs to Pensacola Air Naval Station severely damaged by Hurricane, (all projects fully funded by line paragraph in budget passed by both houses of Congress and signed into law, on budget deal, not only signed by Trump, but celebrated by trump), then Trump appealed to SCOTUS, and won the right to change, even over line paragraph congressional appropriating, signed into law. This was in his first term, long before SCOTUS ruled that anything a President did, that could be considered policy, was in fact legal and non-prosecutable. So, he got the power of the purse, then got the authority to break any law, if it was for policy he considered good for the country. Would SCOTUS give him the power of autocratically take control of the domestic use of military for law enforcement in the streets, strictly against the constitution, same as power or the purse. These days, I would not hazard a guess, certainly not taking bets on it, either way. The Constitution, isn't as strong and binding, these days, and Congress is more scared of Trump and keeping their jobs, than of support for the Constitution and actually having to go on record.

 

[Blisterfinger]

You are the one who should be arrested you lying sack of shit. Trump is the one committing treason. Trump created the chaos as a excuse to seize control. The NG and marines have no business being there.

That is exactly what the Democrats told you.

 

[Crepitus]

(chuckles)

You who presume to know the law better, think it was "stupid of them?"

Let me ask:

Under what premise do you think it was "stupid of them?"

It's obviously unconstitutional and if I, who am not a lawyer, can see it then they should be able to as well.

 

[Crepitus]

Judges have standing in their jurisdiction. Plaintiffs have standing when or if an action of the law affects them.

Lol, judges have jurisdiction, not standing.

 

[TemplarKormac]

It's obviously unconstitutional and if I, who am not a lawyer, can see it then they should be able to as well.

"Obviously unconstitutional"

Is not a sufficient premise. You don't need to be a lawyer to know the law.

 

[Crepitus]

"Obviously unconstitutional"

Yes.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Yes.

You're putting forth very little effort for someone who feels so strongly. How disappointing.