Judge Merchan

[struth]

Well humans for one like your own link says, moron. Did you not read it? Can you even read?

Hence isn't an argument. It's a suggestion of one. What about makes them different that the need to compete in different leagues? Males typically produce more testosterone than females but some males have a genetic condition where they produce less and some intersexed females produce a lot more. If your concern was testosterone levels for instance then sport leagues would be divided by your testosterone level, not your sex.

1) wow, talk about circular logic..

2) you don't know what about men and women are biologically different? hahaha....wow....first, hormones, second reproductive organs. Hormones are a big thing though, men produce more testosterone, which in most cases, makes them bigger and stronger.

Yes, it is true that humans, both male and females can have disorders impacting their development. With that said, it's a small percentage of the population. But at least now you are admitting it's a genetic disorder, and not natural, but in fact, a disorder.

 

[struth]

Except the Bible really does say that and you're just making up this argument that I think males can get pregnant.

No, the Dems in Congress, literally called a Planned Parenthood doctor to testify in Congress to say that. FOX NEWS: Planned Parenthood doctor tells Congress men can get pregnant: ‘This is medicine’

A Planned Parenthood doctor told a House hearing Thursday that men can get pregnant and have babies.

"Men can have pregnancies, especially trans men," said Dr. Bhavik Kumar, medical director for primary and trans care at Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast.

Kumar was testifying at a House Oversight and Reform Committee hearing called by Democrats to discuss how restricting abortions can harm patients. He was replying to a question from Rep. Andrew Clyde, R-Ga., who interrupted Kumar and specified that he was asking if biological men can become pregnant.

"Somebody with a uterus may have the capability of becoming pregnant, whether they’re a woman or a man," Kumar said. "That doesn’t make a difference."

"OK, we’re done," Clyde replied.

"Not every person with a uterus has the ability to become pregnant," Kumar continued. "This is medicine."

Clyde rejected that answer and said basic biology holds that men and women have different chromosomes that make the two sexes different and gives only women the option of bearing children.

"I can’t believe it’s necessary to say this, but men cannot get pregnant and cannot give birth, regardless of how they identify themselves," Clyde said. "Why in the world would Democrats have brought in a person whose title is ‘director of trans care’ for an abortion hearing when only biological women can become pregnant?"

 

[Captain Caveman]

I know I'm correct.

Obviously you need to re-read the posts and understand their contents

 

[Delldude]

They had IVF in Jerusalem in the B.C.?

The three wise guys

 

[Curried Goats]

1) wow, talk about circular logic..

Why don't you try describing it instead of just pretending it's there?

2) you don't know what about men and women are biologically different? hahaha....wow....first, hormones, second reproductive organs. Hormones are a big thing though, men produce more testosterone, which in most cases, makes them bigger and stronger.

I asked you if you knew. This only typically the case, that doesn't mean it's always the case. Separating competition by testosterone would allow intersexed females who produce more testosterone to compete with males in many cases.

Yes, it is true that humans, both male and females can have disorders impacting their development. With that said, it's a small percentage of the population. But at least now you are admitting it's a genetic disorder, and not natural, but in fact, a disorder.

A genetic disorder is just the term we use to describe things in nature that go against what we typically see you moron. People with genetic variations have these variations naturally. Dipshit.

 

[Curried Goats]

No, the Dems in Congress, literally called a Planned Parenthood doctor to testify in Congress to say that. FOX NEWS: Planned Parenthood doctor tells Congress men can get pregnant: ‘This is medicine’

A Planned Parenthood doctor told a House hearing Thursday that men can get pregnant and have babies.

"Men can have pregnancies, especially trans men," said Dr. Bhavik Kumar, medical director for primary and trans care at Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast.

Kumar was testifying at a House Oversight and Reform Committee hearing called by Democrats to discuss how restricting abortions can harm patients. He was replying to a question from Rep. Andrew Clyde, R-Ga., who interrupted Kumar and specified that he was asking if biological men can become pregnant.

"Somebody with a uterus may have the capability of becoming pregnant, whether they’re a woman or a man," Kumar said. "That doesn’t make a difference."

"OK, we’re done," Clyde replied.

"Not every person with a uterus has the ability to become pregnant," Kumar continued. "This is medicine."

Clyde rejected that answer and said basic biology holds that men and women have different chromosomes that make the two sexes different and gives only women the option of bearing children.

"I can’t believe it’s necessary to say this, but men cannot get pregnant and cannot give birth, regardless of how they identify themselves," Clyde said. "Why in the world would Democrats have brought in a person whose title is ‘director of trans care’ for an abortion hearing when only biological women can become pregnant?"

Did you not read your own link and excerpt you dumb Bitch?

He's talking about trans and men and the intersexed. Trans men have biologically female genitalia and the intersex who have working uteruses. You're just too ignorant to really understand what the educated doctor is talking about.

 

[struth]

Why don't you try describing it instead of just pretending it's there?

I asked you if you knew. This only typically the case, that doesn't mean it's always the case. Separating competition by testosterone would allow intersexed females who produce more testosterone to compete with males in many cases.

A genetic disorder is just the term we use to describe things in nature that go against what we typically see you moron. People with genetic variations have these variations naturally. Dipshit.

1) it's when a man thinks he's a woman, or a woman thinks she's a man.....you said that happens in nature, that's it's a natural thing, and happens...the discussion was that it wasn't....

2) yes, it could it certain cases. however, that's not what is happening and what people are pushing back against. People are pushing back against men, who are college or high school age, taking drugs to lower their levels to get scholorships in women's sports, or to compete against women, who otherwise wouldn't of had the advantage of years of developing as a male.

3) correct, we call things disorders that are disorders. I get you want to change the meaning of words...it's what dembots have to do to to make sense of their radical views.

 

[Curried Goats]

Obviously you need to re-read the posts and understand their contents

Nope. I'm good with you admitting I'm correct and Struth making a dipshit out of themselves as usual.

 

[struth]

Did you not read your own link and excerpt you dumb Bitch?

He's talking about trans and men and the intersexed. Trans men have biologically female genitalia and the intersex who have working uteruses. You're just too ignorant to really understand what the educated doctor is talking about.

I did....and science is clear, men, no matter what they call themselves, can't get pregnant...regardless of what you and Planned Parenthood claim. A woman, who might call herself a man, certainly could.

The reason is that women and men are biology different and have different reproductive systems.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Nope. I'm good with you admitting I'm correct and Struth making a dipshit out of themselves as usual.

Are you ok?

Your false beliefs reflects in your strange behaviour.

 

[Curried Goats]

1) it's when a man thinks he's a woman, or a woman thinks she's a man.....you said that happens in nature, that's it's a natural thing, and happens...the discussion was that it wasn't....

It does happen in nature. Your identity is a product of your brain physiology and we're just now learning about the differences in trans brain physiology.

2) yes, it could it certain cases. however, that's not what is happening and what people are pushing back against. People are pushing back against men, who are college or high school age, taking drugs to lower their levels to get scholorships in women's sports, or to compete against women, who otherwise wouldn't of had the advantage of years of developing as a male.

People are taking these drugs to live a life more in line with their identity and some of those lives include wanting to play sports, just like everyone else. If your concern was testosterone levels as you claim, then it shouldn't matter if they have higher testosterone because they're an intersexed female or a trans man, higher testosterone is higher testosterone.

3) correct, we call things disorders that are disorders. I get you want to change the meaning of words...it's what dembots have to do to to make sense of their radical views.

I'm explaining to you what the word means you dumb Bingo. It doesn't mean unnatural.

 

[Curried Goats]

I did....and science is clear, men, no matter what they call themselves, can't get pregnant...regardless of what you and Planned Parenthood claim. A woman, who might call herself a man, certainly could.

The reason is that women and men are biology different and have different reproductive systems.

The science is clear, the science coming from the trained physician and not you, internet Doogie Howser. It does matter if the person getting pregnant is typical female, a female who couldn't get pregnant naturally and needed IVF, a intersexed female or a trans man because each of these people have various health concerns related to their pregnancies so while it might not matter to an ignorant fucker like you who isn't actually responsible for the health of any of these people it does actually matter to the people responsible for providing them care.

 

[Curried Goats]

Are you ok?

Your false beliefs reflects in your strange behaviour.

I'm ok. I'm happy watching Struth make a bingo of themselves and you shy away from making an actual counter argument to anything I offer from the actual professional medical community.

 

[Delldude]

It does happen in nature. Your identity is a product of your brain physiology and we're just now learning about the differences in trans brain physiology.

People are taking these drugs to live a life more in line with their identity and some of those lives include wanting to play sports, just like everyone else. If your concern was testosterone levels as you claim, then it shouldn't matter if they have higher testosterone because they're an intersexed female or a trans man, higher testosterone is higher testosterone.

I'm explaining to you what the word means you dumb Bingo. It doesn't mean unnatural.

Muscle mass is a big factor..... testosterone aside.

 

[Lisa558]

Muscle mass is a big factor..... testosterone aside.

So is lung capacity - a big advantage in swimming.

 

[struth]

It does happen in nature. Your identity is a product of your brain physiology and we're just now learning about the differences in trans brain physiology.

People are taking these drugs to live a life more in line with their identity and some of those lives include wanting to play sports, just like everyone else. If your concern was testosterone levels as you claim, then it shouldn't matter if they have higher testosterone because they're an intersexed female or a trans man, higher testosterone is higher testosterone.

I'm explaining to you what the word means you dumb Bingo. It doesn't mean unnatural.

You claiming it happens doesn’t mean it does

I appreciate these folks have a disorder and they have decided to treat it by taking these drugs…but that doesn’t make it fair to the other competitors playing womens sports. They have higher levels because they are men that believe they are women.

I know what the word means I have an Oxford. I don’t need you to redefine the word so you can justify biological men taking women scholarships and beating up on them.

 

[Curried Goats]

Muscle mass is a big factor..... testosterone aside.

It is but the studies are inconclusive on how exactly. Some show no advantage given after two years of hormone blockers. Some show that changes in physiology can be negligible in young people who transition earlier. Some show the extra mass and bone structure is a hindrance without the levels of testosterone meant to move them.

 

[Curried Goats]

So is lung capacity - a big advantage in swimming.

Well then Michael Phelps should of competed in a league of his own.

 

[Delldude]

It is but the studies are inconclusive on how exactly. Some show no advantage given after two years of hormone blockers. Some show that changes in physiology can be negligible in young people who transition earlier. Some show the extra mass and bone structure is a hindrance without the levels of testosterone meant to move them.

So I was right .

 

[DBA]

I just can't believe that we have people arguing that biological men and women are not physically AND mentally different. It is like Twilight Zone stuff. What's next? Are people going to start arguing that furries are actually the animal they profess to be? As absurd as that sounds, it is not long ago that this male/female argument would have been just as absurd to the average person. Obviously politics are at play here, but I also blame the academic community for politicizing medical science, and the minds of psychiatrists. I want to trust doctors, but this kind of stuff is very concerning.

PS: My wife is a physician and feels the same. She is disgusted that at least parts of science and medicine has succumbed to politics.