Judge Cannon weighs dismissal of Trump classified documents case

[elektra]

Look the indictment up yourself dumbass. This has been going on for a fucking year. Your aggressive ignorance is tiring.

If you claim to be the expert on what is contained in the indictment, it is perfectly reasonable to demand that you provide the proof of your statement

calm down, you are way too angry over comments you were not involved with

 

[Care4all]

There’s a big difference. When the sole declassification and classification authority declassifies a document, it is no longer classified, get it? Doesn’t matter what the markings say at that point.

The classified markings are changed when the classifications change.

Granted, this declassification could have happened after Trump took, (or stole) the documents, and he never got a new copy with the proper markings, but that is highly unlikely....

Fyi- The documents found with markings were checked by the FBI, and there was no mention of any of the top secret or secret or special access marked documents found... that had been declassified after Trump took them....

There is no evidence, at all, that Trump declassified the top secret documents....and the Appeals court over ruled Judge Cannon and Trump, and the top secret and secret documents of Trump's that he was fighting to keep as personal records, had to be turned over to the DOJ/FBI.

 

[Zincwarrior]

If you claim to be the expert on what is contained in the indictment, it is perfectly reasonable to demand that you provide the proof of your statement

calm down, you are way too angry over comments you were not involved with

Stick your head out and read the indictment. I dare you.

 

[elektra]

Stick your head out and read the indictment. I dare you.

How about reading the laws Trump is charged with then show evidence that Trump violated the law. You cant do thar, it exposes the democrat's tyranny

 

[Zincwarrior]

Cannon denied the appeal.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-tell-judge-that-keeping-classified-records-was-legal-2024-03-14/

Fani WIllis remains on the case.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/03/15/fani-willis-trump-georgia-case/

Should have went with Haley. Are you tired of Trump0 Winning yet?

 

[elektra]

Cannon denied the appeal.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-tell-judge-that-keeping-classified-records-was-legal-2024-03-14/

Fani WIllis remains on the case.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/03/15/fani-willis-trump-georgia-case/

Should have went with Haley. Are you tired of Trump0 Winning yet?

it makes an appeal to the supreme court easy to win, when you have evidence that the Willis perjured herself not once but twice, three times

 

[Zincwarrior]

it makes an appeal to the supreme court easy to win, when you have evidence that the Willis perjured herself not once but twice, three times

Based on your microseconds of expertise?
Loser Loser Loser. Should have picked DeSantis, then no one would care what happens to this criminal.

 

[bendog]

jfc, did electra keep going all night? lol

Anyway, back to sanity, Cannon's move was genius. She can now rule mid-trial that the govt case was unconstitutional, and that's the end of Trump's stealing docs.

 

[elektra]

Based on your microseconds of expertise?
Loser Loser Loser. Should have picked DeSantis, then no one would care what happens to this criminal.

expertise, as if you got a brain, move on moron, that is, pick up your foot and place it in front of you, lean a little forward...

 

[0311]

The classified markings are changed when the classifications change.

Granted, this declassification could have happened after Trump took, (or stole) the documents, and he never got a new copy with the proper markings, but that is highly unlikely....

Fyi- The documents found with markings were checked by the FBI, and there was no mention of any of the top secret or secret or special access marked documents found... that had been declassified after Trump took them....

There is no evidence, at all, that Trump declassified the top secret documents....and the Appeals court over ruled Judge Cannon and Trump, and the top secret and secret documents of Trump's that he was fighting to keep as personal records, had to be turned over to the DOJ/FBI.

Once P01135809 left the White House, he had no power to declassify a damn thing.

 

[Zincwarrior]

expertise, as if you got a brain, move on moron, that is, pick up your foot and place it in front of you, lean a little forward...

Meanwhile the trial continues. This is why its bad to nominate a candidate who is under both federal and state indictment.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Trump literally said on recording that focs he was holding were classified and he could not declassify them.

But Trumpers are not shown this, in their bubble.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

jfc, did electra keep going all night? lol

Anyway, back to sanity, Cannon's move was genius. She can now rule mid-trial that the govt case was unconstitutional, and that's the end of Trump's stealing docs.

What is this bizarre fantasy? That would be really dumb and would get her tossed.

 

[bendog]

What is this bizarre fantasy? That would be really dumb and would get her tossed.

I admit that I didn't see this until I read J. Vance's comments.

Vance noted that if Cannon had ruled against the government on Thursday, Smith’s team could have appealed.

“But that’s not the case if, after today’s ruling in the government’s favor, she permits Trump to resurrect the motion at trial,” Vance explained. “She could grant the motion to dismiss the case then and at that point, with very rare exceptions (that the Judge would be in a position to prevent), the government can’t appeal. That’s because once a jury has been empaneled, double jeopardy ‘attaches’ and prevents the government from retrying the defendant on the same charges if he’s acquitted, which is what would happen if the Judge granted a motion to dismiss at that point and before a jury rendered a guilty verdict. That’s the nightmare scenario here.”

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I admit that I didn't see this until I read J. Vance's comments.

Vance noted that if Cannon had ruled against the government on Thursday, Smith’s team could have appealed.

“But that’s not the case if, after today’s ruling in the government’s favor, she permits Trump to resurrect the motion at trial,” Vance explained. “She could grant the motion to dismiss the case then and at that point, with very rare exceptions (that the Judge would be in a position to prevent), the government can’t appeal. That’s because once a jury has been empaneled, double jeopardy ‘attaches’ and prevents the government from retrying the defendant on the same charges if he’s acquitted, which is what would happen if the Judge granted a motion to dismiss at that point and before a jury rendered a guilty verdict. That’s the nightmare scenario here.”

MSN

www.msn.com

Tha would definitely get appealed and reversed. Even Cannon has appeared to admit that they have no constitutional grounds to dismiss. There are protections baked into our system to protect it against corrupt judges.

 

[Care4all]

Tha would definitely get appealed and reversed. Even Cannon has appeared to admit that they have no constitutional grounds to dismiss. There are protections baked into our system to protect it against corrupt judges.

He's right though. That kind of judgement during a trial, can not be appealed if that were to hapoened....she dismissed without prejudice, which allows them to try again during trial...she put her thumb on the scale.

If she were to have done it now, she could have been reviewed and rejected by a circuit court again...for the third time!!!

Look, it may not happen during trial, and if they moved to dismiss again during trial, she may even reject it, (it would simply stall the trial again, which also ain't good).

But the way it sits, it is a huge gift and opening for her pal Trump, down the road....which should not have been left open, by her.... Is what is being reported.

 

[WEATHER53]

Meanwhile the trial continues. This is why its bad to nominate a candidate who is under both federal and state indictment.

Persecutions are intended to thwart an otherwise unbeatable candidate and that’s what is being done
NONE of this has Any Intent to put Trump in jail. it’s All about Election Interference

I will ask this to Dems
Stop all the legal bullshit and can you then beat him?? You all know that answer is No and that’s why the smearing is ongoing

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He's right though. That kind of judgement during a trial, can not be appealed if that were to hapoened.

It can be appealed and tossed and a new trial started after refling of charges.

Cannon already argued there were no constitutional grounds. If she contradicts herself, she and her decision can be vacated.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

But the way it sits, it is a huge gift and opening for her pal Trump, down the road....which should not have been left open, by her.... Is what is being reported.

And there are ways to hold her accountable.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Persecutions are intended to thwart an otherwise unbeatable candidate and that’s what is being done

UNbeatable? A reminder, he lost in 2020, badly. DeSantis was ahead of him before the indictments.