Judge Cannon weighs dismissal of Trump classified documents case

[LeroyDumonde]

The lengths you folks go to avoid holding Trump accountable is awe inspiring.

What part of the law are you having trouble understanding?

 

[Delldude]

You would be correct. Bush, Obama, and Clinton have classified documents in their presidential records.

Since they were turned over the the National Archives and are maintained by the United States Government there is not case for prosecution.

They possessed them for some time.......prior.

None of the documents in the Biden case were classified.

Who the fuck are you trying to bullshit?

 

[Leviticus]

So trump's argument is that as president he had the legal right to proclaim any documents as his Personal property.

 

[Care4all]

They possessed them for some time.......prior.

Nope. The Archives possessed all of our president's presidential records physically, from when the President leaves office.....since the PRA. The only exception is Trump...he never turned them over before leaving office.

That's what the National Archives STATES.

Fyi

The PRA has nothing to do with the Trump indictment.

 

[Care4all]

So trump's argument is that as president he had the legal right to proclaim any documents as his Personal property.

Yes, that is his insane argument!

 

[Care4all]

The law says that once the President's term ends the Archivist is responsible.

It's the Archivist's job to know what documents exist.

Jebus!

Where do you get this crap from Leroy? Seriously?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Trump legal news brief: Trump set to attend hearing as Judge Cannon weighs dismissal of classified documents case​

Yahoo News' succinct daily update on the criminal and civil cases against the 45th president of the United States.​

David Knowles
·Senior Editor
Wed, March 13, 2024, 5:46 PM CDT·

Former President Donald Trump is expected to attend a Thursday hearing in Judge Aileen Cannon’s Florida courtroom on whether to dismiss the felony charges against him brought

Trump legal news brief: Trump set to attend hearing as Judge Cannon weighs dismissal of classified documents case

Former President Donald Trump is expected to attend a Thursday hearing in Judge Aileen Cannon’s Florida courtroom on whether to dismiss the felony charges against him brought by special counsel Jack Smith stemming from his handling of classified documents.

www.yahoo.com

Judge Cannon weighs dismissal of Trump classified documents case​

 

[WorldWatcher]

None of the documents in the Biden case were classified.

See, he secretly and mentally declassified all documents in his possession and on top of that he gave himself a secret and mental pardon. So he's off the hook.

(Like FPOTUS#45 claims he did when he told the public he declassified them after leaving office but didn't tell anyone at the time.)

WW

Who the fuck are you trying to bullshit?

Sarcasm

WW

 

[Coyote]

What part of the law are you having trouble understanding?

Well clearly not part that you do.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

Jebus!

Where do you get this crap from Leroy? Seriously?

I get it from the legal statutes. You may want to read them some time. The text is unambiguous.

 

[j-mac]

Exactly what would you charge the DA with - doing his job?

42 USC 1983

 

[Delldude]

Nope. The Archives possessed all of our president's presidential records physically, from when the President leaves office.....since the PRA.

I think you are wrong:

Key Facts​

Mark Bradley, the director of the National Archive’s Information Security Oversight Office, told the House Intelligence Committee the office has found boxes of classified information in unclassified containers from every administration since the Reagan Administration, according to a report, which the committee voted to release Wednesday.

Since 2010, the National Archives have received calls from roughly 80 libraries that have received classified papers sent from lawmakers, including members of Congress, Bradley said.

The National Archives had reportedly requested former presidents and vice presidents review their personal records for sensitive material, after boxes of classified documents were found in Biden and Trump’s possession—though representatives and aides to former presidents George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama told CNN in January the former presidents did not keep classified records.

Not Just Trump And Biden: Every Administration Since Reagan Mishandled Classified Records, National Archives Finds

Aides to former presidents George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George Bush and Barack Obama had previously said the presidents did not keep classified documents.

www.forbes.com

The PRA has nothing to do with the Trump indictment.

That hasn't been determined.

That's what the National Archives STATES.

Looks like they fumbled the ball, just like past presidents and VP's.

National Archives Asks Former Presidents And Vice Presidents To Search For Classified Records

The discovery of classified documents at the homes of President Biden, former President Trump and former Vice President Mike Pence have raised questions about whether earlier administrations might also have sensitive records.

www.forbes.com

 

[struth]

Except the NARA didn't refuse anything to FPOTUS#45.

He DIDN'T setup a Presidential Library foundation.

No joke, Karen.

WW

Is there e some sort of requirment to set up a presidential library foundation?

 

[WorldWatcher]

Is there e some sort of requirment to set up a presidential library foundation?

For the NARA to display documents at the Presidential Library? Ya.

Now what the rules are if no such Library is created and the documents are stored in a NARA warehouse? I don't know.

LOLz

WW

 

[Care4all]

I get it from the legal statutes. You may want to read them some time. The text is unambiguous.

It's clear as day. Every president has followed and understood it, including Clinton, except Trump.

 

[jbander]

Joe is massively weak in foreign affairs costing us prestige and massive resources. Domestically, he is like a Pope that brings trials and tribulations to his own flock. That is where we are coming from.

Shitpants is loved by our enemy's and Biden is loved by our allies. NO confusion here at all. Trump is scum Biden is a good man.

 

[struth]

Shitpants is loved by our enemy's and Biden is loved by our allies. NO confusion here at all. Trump is scum Biden is a good man.

You only think that cause the demafacist allies are Iran, the taliban, China and the cartels

 

[0311]

Trump legal news brief: Trump set to attend hearing as Judge Cannon weighs dismissal of classified documents case​

Yahoo News' succinct daily update on the criminal and civil cases against the 45th president of the United States.​

David Knowles
·Senior Editor
Wed, March 13, 2024, 5:46 PM CDT·

Former President Donald Trump is expected to attend a Thursday hearing in Judge Aileen Cannon’s Florida courtroom on whether to dismiss the felony charges against him brought

Trump legal news brief: Trump set to attend hearing as Judge Cannon weighs dismissal of classified documents case

Former President Donald Trump is expected to attend a Thursday hearing in Judge Aileen Cannon’s Florida courtroom on whether to dismiss the felony charges against him brought by special counsel Jack Smith stemming from his handling of classified documents.

www.yahoo.com

Judge Rejects Trump Request To Dismiss Classified Documents Prosecution.

Judge rejects Trump request to dismiss classified documents prosecution

A federal judge has refused to throw out the classified documents prosecution against Donald Trump. U.S.

apnews.com

WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge refused Thursday to throw out the classified documents prosecution against Donald Trump, turning aside defense arguments that a decades-old law permitted the former president to retain the sensitive records after he left office.

Lawyers for Trump had cited a 1978 statute known as the Presidential Records Act in demanding that the case, one of four against the presumptive Republican nominee, be tossed out before trial. That law requires presidents upon leaving office to turn over presidential records to the federal government but permits them to retain purely personal papers.

Prosecutors on special counsel Jack Smith’s team countered that that law had no relevance to a case concerning the mishandling of classified documents and said the records Trump is alleged to have hoarded at his Mar-a-Lago estate were unquestionably presidential records, not personal files, and therefore had to be returned to the government when Trump left the White House in January 2021.

U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, who heard arguments on the matter last month, permitted the case to proceed in a three-page order that rejected the Trump team claims. She wrote that the 40-count indictment against Trump makes “no reference to the Presidential Records Act” nor does it “rely on that statute for purposes of stating an offense.”

So much losing. So much very bigly losing.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Judge Rejects Trump Request To Dismiss Classified Documents Prosecution.

Judge rejects Trump request to dismiss classified documents prosecution

A federal judge has refused to throw out the classified documents prosecution against Donald Trump. U.S.

apnews.com

WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge refused Thursday to throw out the classified documents prosecution against Donald Trump, turning aside defense arguments that a decades-old law permitted the former president to retain the sensitive records after he left office.

Lawyers for Trump had cited a 1978 statute known as the Presidential Records Act in demanding that the case, one of four against the presumptive Republican nominee, be tossed out before trial. That law requires presidents upon leaving office to turn over presidential records to the federal government but permits them to retain purely personal papers.

Prosecutors on special counsel Jack Smith’s team countered that that law had no relevance to a case concerning the mishandling of classified documents and said the records Trump is alleged to have hoarded at his Mar-a-Lago estate were unquestionably presidential records, not personal files, and therefore had to be returned to the government when Trump left the White House in January 2021.

U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, who heard arguments on the matter last month, permitted the case to proceed in a three-page order that rejected the Trump team claims. She wrote that the 40-count indictment against Trump makes “no reference to the Presidential Records Act” nor does it “rely on that statute for purposes of stating an offense.”

So much losing. So much very bigly losing.

No need to dismiss, when you can rig it.

 

[Lakhota]